Vaccine Exemptions Under Attack


Earlier this month the New Mexico Department of Health announced that it was changing the childhood vaccine exemption form. New Mexico allows medical and religious exemptions to vaccines and, according to the Department of Health,


The old form did not require written affirmation of a religious-based objection to immunization, and it was not possible to discern the basis for the exemption request and therefore impossible to ascertain whether affiants were complying with NM law.


For over 30 years, the state of New Mexico has accepted conscientious objection to vaccinations as is called for in the law,


A parent or guardian who cannot obtain an affidavit from an officer of a recognized denomination as described in Section 7-1, but whose religious beliefs, held either individually or jointly with others, do not permit the administration of vaccine or other immunizing agents, may apply for an exemption from immunization by submitting a certificate of conscientious objection to immunization.


New Mexico parents who claim vaccine exemptions are scrambling to comply with the new Department of Health form and several have had their forms rejected for the first time. Vaccine exemptions in New Mexico have increased from 1,148 in 1999 to 3,372 in 2011, according to the Department of Health.




The move by the NM Department of Health to tighten the reins on the vaccine exemption procedure occurs within a national climate increasingly hostile to vaccine exemptions. Vaccine developer, Paul A. Offit, for example, has written two recent books, Autism’s False Prophets and Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All, both of which characterize parents who forgo vaccines as irresponsible and deluded. Offit is in favor of mandatory vaccines and opposed to vaccine exemptions of any kind.


Billionaire Bill Gates, whose Global Fund has pledged $10 billion to provide vaccines to children around the world within the next ten years, also demonizes those who question vaccines, “…the people who go and engage in those anti-vaccine efforts–you know, they, they kill children.” Gates recently funded an anti-vaccine surveillance and alert system: Seth Kalichman of the University of Connecticut


will establish an Internet-based global monitoring and rapid alert system for finding, analyzing, and counteracting communication campaigns containing misinformation regarding vaccines to support global immunization efforts.


Vaccine developers, Offit and Gates, have been criticized for conflict of interest because of the enormous influence they wield over immunization practices and public policy. According to Genetic Engineering & Biotechnology News,


The world vaccines market is predicted to increase at a compound annual rate of 9.3% during 2010–2015, reaching $39.5 billion in 2015 as new product introductions continue and usage of current products expands further.




The demonization of parents who exercise freedom of conscience regarding vaccines has fueled recent efforts in several states to limit parental rights. Currently there is a bill on California governor Jerry Brown’s desk that will require parents who seek philosophical exemptions to vaccines to consult with and get a signature from a licensed healthcare provider before receiving the exemption.


Vermont won a hard fought battle earlier this year when, in March, the Vermont Senate voted 25 to 4 to eliminate the philosophical exemption, in response to concerns from doctors over declining immunization rates: the state’s rate for seventh-graders is about 96%. However, persistent emails, phone calls, and personal visits from parents with the Vermont Coalition for Vaccine Choice influenced legislators to retain the exemption.


Also in March, the New Jersey state legislature approved a bill that requires stricter guidelines for exemptions. The new law reads, “…a general philosophical or moral objection to the vaccination shall not be sufficient for an exemption on religious grounds.”


Parents in West Virginia—which is one of two states with only a medical exemption—lobbied the Legislature unsuccessfully this summer for a religious exemption. According to the National Vaccine Information Center, just 17 states have philosophical exemptions: Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Idaho, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin and Washington.




State legislators and state health departments are worried about declining vaccination rates. While New Mexico, for example, has child vaccination rates above the national rate, the NM Health Department is concerned that


…some communities in NM have significantly lower vaccine coverage than other communities. These communities with lower coverage are at higher risk for vaccine preventable diseases.


In New Mexico this year 515 cases of whooping cough have been reported—a record number—up from 149 in 2010. Twenty-five thousand cases of pertussis were reported to the CDC through August 24, 2012, the worst epidemic in 50 years. The recent epidemic of pertussis has been blamed on those who don’t vaccinate, however, according to the CDC, this is a worldwide epidemic and the high rates of pertussis suggest


early waning of immunity from acellular vaccines… Although acellular pertussis vaccines provide excellent short-term protection, early waning of immunity might be contributing to increasing population-level susceptibility.”


This conclusion is borne out by two recent studies, which indicate that the majority of people getting sick from whooping cough are up to date with their immunizations.




Some think that the parents of conscience who refuse vaccines hurt others by decreasing our herd immunity, but herd immunity was originally meant to refer to natural immunity from natural diseases, not from vaccines. Vaccines, by their nature, confer temporary immunity, as noted above by the CDC, and diseases have a cyclical nature. According to Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center:


“The original concept of herd immunity is that when a population experiences the natural disease… natural immunity would be achieved – a robust, qualitatively superior natural herd immunity within the population, which would then protect other people from getting the disease in other age groups. It’s the way infectious diseases work…


The vaccinologists have adopted this idea of vaccine induced herd immunity. The problem with it is that all vaccines only confer temporary protection… Pertussis vaccine is one of the best examples… Pertussis vaccines have been used for about 50 to 60 years, and the organism has started to evolve to become vaccine resistant. I think this is not something that’s really understood generally by the public: Vaccines do not confer the same type of immunity that natural exposure to the disease does.




Not everyone agrees that unvaccinated children hurt others. Pediatricians Bob Sears, MD and Jay Gordon MD, among others, support parents’ right to choose. Dr. Gordon says:


In the absence of facts, doctors and others are trying to frighten people into vaccinating or not vaccinating. That fear includes the notions that unvaccinated children pose a great threat to others and that parents of these children are not being responsible. In fact, these parents are choosing what they consider to be the safest course of action for their children and pose very little, if any, danger to other children and adults.


While it is true that unvaccinated children get pertussis at a higher rate than fully vaccinated children, it is the waning effectiveness of the vaccine, and the cyclical and ever evolving nature of the disease, not unvaccinated children, that puts people at risk. According to the CDC in regards to the Washington pertussis epidemic,


…because in most of the cases the patients were vaccinated, the 4.5% of Washington school children who were exempted from vaccination during 2011–2012 represented only a small proportion of those at risk for pertussis in the state.




No one knows if frightening parents by tightening vaccine exemptions will increase vaccine compliance. Parents of conscience may choose to home school or to move to a state with philosophical exemptions. Changing the law does not change conscience. As the only medical procedure mandated by law, vaccinations pose unique questions in regard to personal liberty and public health and inevitably pit one against the other.


The US has a century old tradition of accepting conscientious objection to medical procedures and all medical associations support, in principle, the doctrine of informed consent. Informed consent specifically states that one must not be coerced into making a decision and that one may decline a treatment or procedure. Further, the right to decline a treatment is not contingent on the effectiveness of that treatment. Does our tradition of informed consent not apply to vaccines?


Are we prepared to limit a citizen’s right to informed consent for vaccinations, and vaccinations alone? Do we afford informed consent to citizens only for those decisions we approve of? Where do we draw the line when the line no longer exists?


Peggy O’Mara  (101 Posts)Peggy O’Mara founded in 1995 and is currently its editor-in chief. She was the editor and publisher of Mothering Magazine from 1980 to 2011. The author of Having a Baby Naturally; Natural Family Living; The Way Back Home; and A Quiet Place, Peggy has lectured and conducted workshops at Omega Institute, Esalen, La Leche League International, and Bioneers. She is the mother of four.



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34 thoughts on “Vaccine Exemptions Under Attack”

  1. I agree with your indignation about mandatory vaccination. I don’t think we need to even raise the issue of religious dissent though. Properly conducted scientific studies give us all the evidence we need to question the routine vaccination of all children, especially when it is done to young babies.

  2. Hi Peggy, I possibly misread what you were saying about religious objection, as it was merely a factual statement. I am concerned about the religious objection to some medical interventions — e.g. those people who for religious reasons refuse blood transfusions or other medical interventions, resulting in the deaths of their children. They are flying in the face of good medicine.

    But I do have very strong feelings about the vaccination issue, as good medical policy is absent here. I am not against all vaccinations (there are some that ‘may’ be good, depending on how and when they are administered) but when I was a baby (nearly 70 years ago) we got a smallpox vaccination in late babyhood, and possibly one injection for something (I don’t know what). At six we got “drops” of a polio vaccination, taken orally (the natural way for the virus to enter the body).

    Today’s babies are given their first vaccination here in South Africa right after birth. High levels of aluminum (very toxic) are added because the baby’s immune system is too immature to respond without it. A whole bunch more follow, many of them to immunise the baby against several childhood diseases all at once — of course the baby’s immune system can’t handle them.

    What really upsets me is that if the baby were being breastfed it would have natural immunity to all these diseases for the duration of the time it was breastfed. Why do doctors not take this into consideration? At the very least, breastfed babies should be exempted for the duration of breastfeeding.

    I take your points on the pertussis vaccine in particular. Here in South Africa we have a terribly high incidence of tuberculosis, especially among the black population, and I don’t have any easy answers for that. An HIV vaccine would also be welcome in Africa, though it seems that babies who were HIV- at birth, and were exclusively breastfed by HIV+ mothers, often seem to have HIV antibodies, but no virus. This may be the way forward, as it appears these babies may be naturally immune to HIV for the rest of their lives.

    Please pardon the long response. I am relatively new to the vaccination debate (was previously in favour) though someone in my family was negatively affected. I know you probably know all of this by heart, and I hope I got the facts right. I just needed to vent, and it is people like you who (and others) who have inspired me to look into this issue. My warm appreciation!

  3. Excellent article!

    “Changing the law does not change conscience.”

    IMO what is happening is conscience is being told to take a back seat to THE STATE; don’t do as your conscience urges do as the STATE DEMANDS. Often not far off is the loading of your neighbors into the boxcars. How many times has the world lived through the HORROR this engenders.

    If “vaccines” are so wonderful why are we increasingly and on many fronts BEING FORCED to take them. My hope this FORCE will wake up MANY to the deadly fraud of “vaccination”.

  4. Since my work is in the faith-based arena, I’m particularly troubled by the change to require an official statement of religious objection. Many people’s views on this and related issues are faith-based but personal, not official. For example, my support for natural childbirth and breastfeeding is deeply rooted in my belief that these are God’s own design, but my faith community wouldn’t be able to provide me an official statement of religious support for them because they’re not essential tenets of faith.

    IOW this requirement puts the government in charge of determining what is and isn’t a faith-based view. I realize that’s not unprecedented; for example, I believe official statements have been require to support conscientious objection to military battle assignments. But it’s a move in the wrong direction in yet another area of religious liberty, and that troubles me deeply.

  5. I wish someone would also raise the issue of US immigration forced vaccination. It’s a very difficult waiver to obtain and though I don’t support mandatory vaccinations for any age, in the case of adults, this requirement makes no sense. Even the seasonal flu vaccine is required if immigrating during the winter months.

  6. You are absolutely wrong that breastfeeding brings a natural immunity for diseases. It does not. I breastfed all of my children, yet my third child contracted whooping cough at 3 weeks old and almost died. We are all fully immunized, but I had contracted whooping cough when I was pregnant. The doctors told me it was just a cold, since adults don’t get whooping cough (doctor’s words, not mine).

    It is the most horrible feeling in the world to watch your child turn blue while they are having a coughing fit, struggling to breathe, knowing there is absolutely nothing you can do to help them. We were fortunate, that our daughter pulled through and 7 years later she seems to have no long term effects. There are many, many families out there who aren’t so lucky.

  7. Kathy — you are so right, this IS troubling. The other part that troubles me is that many states don’t have philosophical exemptions for people who are not coming from a religious point of view but still have concerns. I have heard health officials complain about the overuse of the religious exemption by people who don’t profess a particular faith (though I’m not sure how they know this)… but what other choice do those parents have? What if they simply have medical concerns? We happen to have both — medical concerns about several of the vaccines as well as religious objections. In our case the concerns overlap so the ones we are concerned about medically are also the ones to which we have religious objections. If however that wasn’t the case, what would be my options? As I see it, I would either be forced to go through with the vaccines that I have serious medical concerns over or lie about having a religious exemption. It’s as if we’re supposed to be good parents until or unless it’s a subject matter the government thinks they trump. Scary, indeed.

  8. The fact is that some states are requiring a waiver from your religious institution as opposed to just saying you object to them on a religious basis. I certainly don’t want the school to think I object to medical intervention because I oppose vaccinations.

    I am still on the fence whether vaccinations as a whole are bad for everyone. In our family we have a long history to intolerances to various medicines and even allergies. We vax’ed our oldest son on schedule and he has food allergies. We delayed with our second child until he was two and it was like a light switch was flipped. Immune system went haywire, mental differences, developed food allergies, etc. We have yet to come to a diagnosis but he is not the same child he was and it has become increasingly difficult for him in school as a result. We have chosen not to vax our youngest as a result.

  9. Pharmaceutical companies, governments and interested parties are at work to force vaccines on the worlds population regardless of any religious or medical grounds despite the fact that no vaccine has been proved safe and effective, no country or individual will be able to resist.

    Already in England some organisations and schools will not employ personnel or accept pupils unless they have been vaccinated.

    With the Flu-jab season approaching another SARs type patient has been identified preparing more of the population including young children now to accept the jab.

    This is a massive profit and control based effort disregarding the inefficiency, serious damage and the side effects of vaccines, unfortunately most people are unaware of the consequences and willingly submit to their doctor

  10. Thank you for your insightful article. My personal issue with vaccines is not the vaccines themselves, but the way in which we administer them. Parents are made to feel by the medical community, the pharmaceutical companies, and the government that if we do not adhere to their published schedule we are bad parents. Babies get a HepB vaccine within 24 hours of birth. Why? The only reason I’ve been able to find any fact with is that the schedule for HepB has been developed to ensure that adults who will need the vaccine get the vaccine when they are unable to refuse to do so. That is absurd. My child does not need to be injected with any foreign substances within 24 hours of birth, unless medically necessary.

    My husband and I worked with our pediatrician to develop a “child friendly” vaccine schedule, allowing both our children to receive the necessary vaccines prior to starting public school at 5, and also to only receive one shot at a time, so that any side effects could be monitored. Vaccines such as DTaP, which the doctor felt we strongly needed to stay on schedule for, were received within the CDC guidelines for children. Vaccines such as MMR and HepB were received when my children were older and could better tolerate any side effects. I never felt my children were at risk for catching or passing on diseases and hurting other children as a result.

    Forcing parents to vaccinate their children on a rigid schedule developed by the government takes away our rights as parents to do what is best for our children.

  11. Peggy,

    I take an even stronger stand against vaccination than you do. It confers NO “protection” from disease. When it “works”, it only devitalizes the body such that it can’t express constructive/extra-eliminative symptoms. So it really just forces the body to keep wastes inside that it would normally expunge through extraordinary elimination (symptoms like runny nose, coughing, etc.). That’s one way that vaccination contributes to long-term, degenerative disease. When constructive symptoms are treated properly (left alone, not medicated), they are self-limiting; that is, they run their course and do the job they are intended to by nature — to cleanse the body and restore full function. In spite of vaccination, the body is still sometimes able to do its magnificent work. That’s when it is claimed that the vaccine “failed” or didn’t “work”. Actually, the body was just able to overcome it. When we are willing to look at disease objectively and see it for what it is, the original CAUSES can always be found. Removal of cause is the only thing that really works to resolve disease. It is not possible to avoid disease while eating a diet comprised of harmful foods and living a stressful, sleep- and exercise-deprived life. Vaccination is a silly myth that only persists because there are a lot of people making a lot of money from it, and because it’s very appealing to think that the consequences of unhealthy lifestyle habits can be magically avoided somehow. Thank you very much for taking this subject on and risking the derision that will inevitably come from those who are not strong enough to face the truth.

  12. It is incredulous to think we can force any medication on anyone against their will. I really don’t understand how it’s even legal, much less that people have to believe in some particular religion. Anyone with a brain should be allowed to do their research and based on that, decide whether it’s more a risk to vaccinate or it’s more a risk to get the disease. We are trading annoying childhood diseases for chronically unhealthy kids and ultimately a very sick society; alas, we are already there. My comment would be to say “sure, if you (to the doctor or provider) or the government will sign this agreement to provide care if/when this/these vaccines (not immunizations because that they are NOT) cause damage to my child’s health. If you will also sign a guarantee that this medication/vaccine provides health to my child, then I will allow it. My first child has an intractable seizure disorder and none of the doctors can explain why it started so much earlier and has persisted so much longer. Well, i know the reason is because he was subjected to repeated toxic injections which damaged his gut and therefore his neurologic system. I can’t tell you how much money we’ve spent trying to help him become healthy. He was a healthy baby, breastfed for 5.5 years but at 2 years old, right before i noticed the seizures, started becoming a picky eater, gradually falling off the growth chart, when he had been at 95%. He’s pale and gets sick more frequently and his illnesses last longer than they should. He’s 15 now, very smart and we are lucky that for the most part he is “normal” yet he is not living the full life he should be, because he’s not as healthy as he would be if he had not received those poisons.

  13. Not to belittle what you went through at all. I can not imagine my newborn going through that. However you said you are all fully immunized. Have you considered whether the vaccines given your baby at birth weakened her immune system. Vaccines are meant to weaken the immun system. They play havoc on little bodies. My daughter and 2 other babies had direct exposure to whopping cough. The other two where vaccinated and both contracted it. My daughter who has no vaccines at all did not get it. When we spoke with our doctor about it his response was let me guess the other two children were vaccinated weren’t they.

  14. I’m also baffled as to the reasoning that unvaccinated people are a threat to the “rest of us”. Hmm. Well if you’re vaccinated, you’re safe from catching the disease, right? So the only threat is to the unvaccinated, and most people who choose to not vaccinate rely on good health practices (ie healthy food, etc) so that the challenge of an illness can be met successfully, coming away will actual, authentic immunity. Most of the outbreaks of measles in the last 10 years or so have been among a highly vaccinated population. Merck just admitted to lying about the mumps vaccine’s efficacy. So what do vaccines really provide, except a lot of money to Offitt and the rest of the drug manufacturers. Anyone can look at the rate of any of the diseases for which we vaccinate and see that the rates of that disease were already at their low point at the introduction of the vaccine, meaning the vaccine was not the cause of the reduced cases.

  15. 81% of the people who got Whooping Cough in CA were fully vaccinated. Vaccines not do not always work…

    Further…it is not necessary to be rude when responding to an article. All it does is make you look like a jerk and I personally hold no value in the argument of a jerk.

  16. Does no one feel a social responsibility to vaccinate? Dismissing herd immunity doesn’t make sense. If we were surviving well enough on our “natural” immunity, then there would have never been a need for vaccines in the first place. This is a first-world debate. The fact that we’re even having this discussion proves that we live in a society where enough people DO vaccinate. And thank God for that.

  17. A “need” for vaccines?

    Like we “need” vaccines for flu and venereal warts? You know, the flu vaccine that has, at best, 59% efficacy over doing nothing, and Gardasil, that has been responsible for some of the worst severe adverse effects reported to VAERS?

    Like we “need” every single product the pharmaceutical industry (citing the studies THEY fund to sell those products) says we “need?”

    You can’t prove a NEED for a product based on the fact that the majority of the people buy it. Unless you want to believe that we NEEDED cigarettes.

    Different industry, same M.O. Only the vaccine industry learned from the tobacco industry’s mistakes, and got their propaganda in early on.

  18. You don’t say why you support vaccination. You don’t offer any references as to why vaccination is so great. I am a pharmacist, and I have read the package inserts, I have read the research for vaccines, and I was trained in vaccines. I am not pro-vaccine. I never get the flu shot.


    Because vaccines are contaminated with all sorts of things that should not enter your body via puncturing the skin. There are adjuvants (chemicals that cause your body to over-react on purpose), toxins, and bits of animal or human fetal DNA). Even the thing in there that is intended to “vaccinate,” the virus itself, is supposed to enter your body via eyes, ears, nose, throat in order to stimulate normal humoral and natural immunological responses.

    But the biggest reason that pushed me over the fence on vaccines is that there is a disturbing rise in autoimmune diseases. I see these people every day–they have MS, lupus, other incurable diseases. There is good research today showing a link between the introduction of foreign DNA into humans and the resulting disruption of the immune system such that it attacks itself.

    Also, I am anti-abortion, and MMR is cultured in aborted fetal tissue. I didn’t make that one up.

    If a child who is vaccinated is sitting next to someone who is not, why does the parent of the vaccinated child care? Don’t they believe the vaccination worked? There is no health threat here.

    My parents had mumps, measles, german measles, and even whooping cough. I had chicken pox. The rationale for the chicken pox vaccine, which came out when I was in grad school, was strictly financial–so that parents wouldn’t miss work. It was never developed to save lives. Chicken pox was rarely a fatal disease. THAT is a good rationale for everyone to be forced to be subjected to injection into their bodies of something that may cause bigger problems later? Until you can prove that they don’t, vaccines cannot be given such a pass, and we shouldn’t allow the government to dictate what we do with our bodies. If you doubt the damage caused by vaccines, look at how much VAERS has had to pay out, and know, too, that vaccine-makers had all stopped making vaccines until the government stepped in and said they would be immune from damages.

    You say the anti-vaccine people are only motivated by money, but I say the same thing about the vaccine manufacturers. Oh, and I worked for drug companies for decades as well, so I know how they think and what motivates them….it’s not altruistic.

    The answer is money. What’s the question?

  19. I did do my research. At the time I did it (several years ago), the babies born of parents who were HepB negative that contracted HepB was extremly low (I believe less than 10 per year). This, to me, is not a risk to my children. We are HepB negative. My children were not in daycare. We do not live in a highly populated area. My children were not at a serious risk of contracting the virus and therefore spreading to any other child. The chance of them dying from SIDS was higher and unpreventable. I made a well researched decision for my children with the assistance of my doctor (who was aware and supported my decision).

    I felt Pertussis to be a risk, therefore vaccinated accordingly, again, in agreement with my doctor.

    I believe parents should have the right, and doctors should have the right, to make adjustments to a child’s vaccine schedule in the best interest of the child.

  20. No vaccine weakens the immune system. There is no mechanism by which it could do that. What they do is prepare the immune system to deal with diseases it might be exposed to later on, so that the body will be prepared, the same way a naturally occurring infection will prepare the body to fight off the same infection in a later exposure. The only difference is that with vaccination one doesn’t have to suffer through the disease first, to acquire that immunity. Unless you believe that disease itself weakens the immune system, it makes no sense to think that a vaccine would do so.

  21. Babies get a HepB vaccination to help prevent them being among the thirty percent of childhood HepB cases with no known cause. HepB can survive on surfaces for days and can be transmitted by sharing things like toothbrushes or by minimal blood contact. Young children bite, they chew on toys and share them, they put food into each other’s mouths. In a daycare or playground setting there’s no way to prevent every contact of that kind. There is also no way to know the status of every person your child comes into contact with. Those other people may not know themselves. HepB in children is more likely to be chronic than acute and therefore more likely to lead to liver cancer later. Contrary to what you may have been told, HepB is not just a danger to those sharing needles and having unprotected sex. That makes a good sound bite, but it’s highly inaccurate.

  22. Laura, no vaccine is absolutely perfect, as I’m sure you know better than to expect. They do a very good job of protecting most people, but nothing in life is perfect. To claim that the only people who need worry are the unvaccinated by choice is naive or self-absorbed. I think you’ve likely forgotten those who can’t have the immediate protection of vaccination because of some health issue, like transplant or some forms of medical treatment. It seems you’ve also overlooked infants who are not old enough to have had certain vaccines or the full course of boosters necessary for adequate protection, and the elderly who might not mount a good immune response. Do they not deserve your concern? Are they not part of the human family, to whom we all have a responsibility?

  23. Chris, it seems you have overlooked those who have severe adverse effects from vaccinations.

    There have been over 2000 admitted and compensated cases of vaccine-induced severe brain damage in the US alone.

    Just this year, there have been at least 40 cases of admitted and compensated cases of flu-shot induced severe autoimmune disorders, encephalopathy, Guillaine-Barre syndrome, etc. That’s JUST from the flu shot. JUST in the US. Finland and Sweden are admitting and compensating cases of narcolepsy (which is a kind of seizure disorder, imagine that) caused by the flu shot.

    Funny you didn’t mention that.

    Do they not deserve your concern? Are they not part of the human family, to whom we all have a responsibility?

    Or do you think it’s find to let these people receive shots that are known to cause serious reactions in the “name of protecting the herd,” and then just pay them off when their lives are destroyed?

    Keep in mind that the financial compensation in the US does not even begin to cover medical costs for these people, even when they win against the government.

  24. [email protected] says:

    Vaccines can, and often do, trigger autoimmunity – this is damage to the immune system any way you slice it! It doesn’t help that these shots contain human DNA, amino acids, and proteins, as well as ingredients from the foods we are most likely to consume for our lifetime (chicken, egg, beef, milk, soy, and more) in addition to the virus to which the manufacturer hopes we will “develop immunity.” Sadly, our bodies cannot discern the difference between the products injected and mounts a response to all which are delivered to the bloodstream at needle-point…Once your body is trained to attack the very building blocks of life, health goes out the door…And, you will still likely catch the disease because the vaccine triggers a useless immune response…See here:

  25. I don’t quite know how to thank you for posting your view. I am not pro or anti-vaccine, and I know how hard it is for parents to make this choice. It is rare for us to hear a realistic view from someone in the healthcare industry of what they actually see. I had a pediatrician scream at me: “I have had to bury children because they weren’t vaccinated!” I calmly replied: “What did they die of?” She then lost control, didn’t answer me and wouldn’t let me speak. I have done many hours of research and reading and have found the same consistency you have: Pro-vaccine haven’t been able to provide statistics or stories to back their views, and the anti-vaccine, pro-choice community often have stories to tell or encourage information gathering, usually offering many references as to why they feel the way they do. It seems to me that pro-vaccine demands blind faith whereas the other camp encourages people to find out the truth. I could go on all day, my only hope is that my daughter grows up healthy with the EXTREMELY difficult choices we have had to, and will have to make in this arena. Either way a parent could have to pay the ultimate price. That is why there is so much debate, no one cares for our children the way we parents do. I may be a cinic, but when someone who doesn’t even know my child is making money off him… well when someone is making money, it is rare the person who puts the other first. People get funny when it comes to their pocketbook. It makes me question, yes…

  26. And how many childhood HepB cases are there, exactly? 30% of what number? My understanding is that, as I said in a seperate post, the chances of my child dying from SIDS is higher than them contracting HepB.

    It’s a nasty vaccine. My child was not in daycare, and we do not live in a highly populated area. I chose to wait until my child was older and his immune system was better developed. Although I have serious personal issues vaccinating against a disease that is primarily contracted via immoral activities, I vaccinated my child prior to him attending school on a regular basis. My doctor supported my decision.

  27. Wait, what? ChrisKid argues that those of us who can be vaccinated should be, in order to protect those who can’t be. And your argument is “well, what about those people who can’t be vaccinated”? Do you not see that you are concerned about the same group of people? People who have severe reactions to one vaccine are not usually given more. And therefore, they are at risk when herd immunity falls. Since they are, as you point out, a part of the human family, they are part of the reason the rest of us have a moral obligation to contribute to herd immunity by being vaccinated.

  28. I have also had difficult conversations with doctors and in one instance actually had the doctor yell at me (unresponsible parent) for delaying vaccines. However, despite my serious reservations about the risks of vaccinations I believe, as a parent, it is my JOB to make this difficult decision for my children. They shouldn’t be 18 and ready to travel the world and have to make a decision to vaccinate after growing up with a rigid anti-vaccine feeling in the house. I don’t think modern medicine’s intent is to harm people, but rather to reduce the severity of illness: just as we, as parents, will give kids vitamin c, herbal supplements or homeopathics to reduce the severity of a cold. It doesn’t always work, but we keep trying.

    I think that the anti-vaccine advocates do just as much vilifying and looking down on parents that do vaccinate (regular or a modified schedule) as the vaccination advocates. So, rather then accusing vaccinating parents of being blind, uninformed parents and publishing a list of doctors that will help parents beat the government recommended schedule, try “reaching across the aisle”.

    Go make a real difference in parent/doctor relationships by working with the CDC to have an alternative vaccination schedule published that, for example, delays vaccines until the children are 1 or 2 yrs old, limits the number of vaccines received in a 3-6 month time period, and aims to ensure that the minimum requirements are met just in time to enter kindergarten. Parents could then accept the risk of delaying until their children are older or modify the schedule further based on their family circumstance, and doctors wouldn’t be anxious because they wouldn’t be going against the American Academy of Pediatric recommendations.

  29. [email protected] says:

    You seem to have missed the point entirely. You are ignoring the people that are hurt by vaccines. These were not people that were deemed as not able to be vaccinated, these were before normal people like you and me who were damaged by the vaccine. This needs to be taken into consideration when trying to save the ones that cannot get the vaccine.

    Also, whoever talked about their baby getting whopping cough. You should know that if you got whopping cough and get over it. Then get pregnant, your baby will be immune while on breastmilk. However, if you got the VACCINE your baby will not get the immunity. Interesting huh? Vaccines do not offer the same immunity as natural immunity. SO baby’s were probably MORE protected from whopping cough before the vaccine (if breastfeeding rates were high) Since infants have the highest rates of death by far..most children do not die from it. Not vaccinating would probably be far safer for the community at large. Something similar with chicken pox, if you are exposed to the chicken pox vaccine as an adult, repeated exposure actually keeps you from getting shingles. Since the chicken pox vaccine started, shingles rates in adults have GONE UP. That is right! The vaccine caused more problems then it solved..again.

    Lastly, do you realize how many vaccines have come out since you were a child and got them? Have you gotten up to date on all your vaccines? You can be spreading these childhood diseases just as much as an unvaccinated child. So no adult should speak of herd immunity until they go and get a bunch of toxins in their system so they are fully vaccinated like school children are required to be today.

  30. Do we still live in a time when horses poop on the streets? Do we live in a time when antibiotics had not been invented?

    We live in a different world than our ancestors. We know how germs spread. We wash our hands after going to the bathroom, before we eat, etc.

    The only disease still spreading fear is pertussis. And all the most recent studies are saying the new acellular version is just not effective. The proof is in the fact that the majority of those who come down with it are FULLY vaccinated.

  31. The state health department inspector doesn’t like parents who don’t vaccinate their children according to the CDC schedule, so I signed a religious waiver (neither hubby or I are religious). It looks like the state respects religion more than a parent’s choice to not follow the CDC vaccination schedule. Sad.

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