Alzheimers Happening Earlier and Earlier: Better diagnosing or toxic vaccine build-up? - Page 2

[mamadelbosque]

Lots of countries test 100% of the cows that they butcher for mad cow. The US does not. The US tests' like 1% of all cows. 1 out of 100. Its very possible for a cow to have mad cow disease and yet not be showing obvious 'symptoms'. Downer cows get into our food supply every single freaking day because of the USDA's lousy regulations. To say that it doesn't happen is just absolutely naive'. I'm sure your friends are good people. I'm sure most vets are good people. But the truth is theres a LOT of money to be made to in the meat industry and as a result security, standards, etc all ten to be awfully lax.

[vintagetroll]

I am not expert, but we were feeding animals tainted feed well into the 90's, and it sometimes takes years after exposure to exhibit symptoms. There are also cases that do occur naturally outside of eating meat. I had a coworker whose sister in law died from it and it was declared one of the naturally occuring cases.
Any of us that ate beef in the last 30 years are potentially carrying it. I never implied a conspiricy, just lack of oversight, lack of testing and the potential that animals are getting into the food supply before showing symptoms. We will never know, our own govt doesn't allow companies to test for it. So yes, when I hear of people in their 40's getting alzheimers I do think that some of those cases are mad cow. And without autopsys we will never know.

[cadydid]

Okay, I hear you. And I'm not dismissing the possibility of BSE getting into our cattle or getting into our food supply. I am dismissing the possibility of a government conspiracy to keep this all hidden.

Have you ever seen an animal suffering from BSE or scrapie? It's pretty profound. I can see beef cattle getting into the food supply after infection but before clinical signs, but not dairy cattle. Dairy cattle have no age or weight at which they go to slaughter. They're kept alive as long as they are producing. Most of the videos I've seen of cattle with BSE have been Holsteins - dairy cattle. Plus, in both beef and dairy situations, there are the replacement cattle (the breeders). Those animals are going to live longer, and considering the number of cattle in this country I don't think it's possible that the older cattle just aren't getting it.

I can't answer the autopsy question because I have no idea, but no one else does, either. No one who is diagnosed with Alzheimer's has an autopsy? Again, I find that far-fetched.

It just seems to me that if this were a problem, it would have been discovered already. I get that there seems to be some mistrust of medical professionals here, but I don't accept that everyone is going to be so incompetent or so unethical that this wouldn't come out. Plus, people just aren't that good at keeping their yaps shut when they know a secret.

[vintagetroll]

if someone has been diagnosed with a known disease, and then dies of it, then no, an autopsy usually is not performed. And who is really going to question a doctors diagnosis and push for an autopsy of their loved ones. And some cases do occur, under a 100 or so a year in this country, that are just declared naturally occuring. I am pleased we don't have an epidemic in this country, but I am not convinced that while England had 100's of cases of this disease we've had none, in a time when the govt has been gutting all oversight of the meat industry.

there doesn't have to be a grand conspiricy for things to be underreported. My mom was greivously injured by statin drugs, went to her doctor probably 2 dozen times and always said it can't be the statins, I have never seen this, it just can't be the statins. She finally just stopped taking them (against her doctors advice while he was going to have her do another round of tests that was finding nothing) and her symtpoms were gone in less than a week. And this doctor still doesn't believe it was the statins, and anyone else that comes in with the same symptoms he is going to tell the same thing. Its not like my mom reported it anywhere else, there is no real database of this stuff. Multiply that by a thousands of doctors, or an industry that relies on public confidence (like the meat industry) and you can have quiet injuries going on with no conspiricy other than a collective head in the sand.

[justice'smom]

Okay now this is a little off because this has nothing to do with cows. My sister-in-law also believes that the aluminum in anti-persperient is the reason for alzheimers. I told her at one point that there is a lot of aluminum in vaccines and yet she is all about vaccinating her baby, but still won't use the anti-per.
It makes no sense to me, but what do I know?

[vintagetroll]

I finally switched anti perspirants too...I don't know if I think its causing disease in adults, but if I don't want it injected into my baby, then why am I putting it on my skin everyday.

most people just want to believe there are shots that protect from scary diseases. I know I did, and I purposedly did not research it when I had my daughter because I didn't want to be scared off of them. It wasn't until they started recommending the flu vaccine for babies (which my grandmother was paralyzed by) that I finally had enough and put a stop to vax until I knew what I needed to know about them.

[justice'smom]

Originally Posted by vintagetroll

I finally switched anti perspirants too...I don't know if I think its causing disease in adults, but if I don't want it injected into my baby, then why am I putting it on my skin everyday.

most people just want to believe there are shots that protect from scary diseases. I know I did, and I purposedly did not research it when I had my daughter because I didn't want to be scared off of them. It wasn't until they started recommending the flu vaccine for babies (which my grandmother was paralyzed by) that I finally had enough and put a stop to vax until I knew what I needed to know about them.

I can understand that. My sil works with autistic children though. I'm assuming that all the research she has been shown has said there is no link there either.

[miriam]

Originally Posted by justice'smom

Okay now this is a little off because this has nothing to do with cows. My sister-in-law also believes that the aluminum in anti-persperient is the reason for alzheimers.

No evidence, only anecdotal, but some women believe their breast cancer is caused by the ingredients in the antiperspirants...food for thought.