Tongue Tie Question - Page 10

[changingseasons]

Well, we didn't do it. I was still on the fence, and the doctor was on the fence too- she said she would do it if I wanted, but there really wasn't a rush. And DD very clearly remembered the first clipping... she wouldn't let the doctor anywhere near her mouth. So I decided that one traumatic procedure was enough right now... we are both fighting a cold and feel like crap anyway, so it can wait.

Honestly, if teeth placement is the ONLY reason to have it done, I don't think that it's worth it right now. Her baby teeth are already in, so it won't change anything right now anyway. And when she's older, it will be easier to use numbing medication to clip it and I don't think it will be so traumatic.

[changingseasons]

Oh yeah- and I weighed DD this morning, and she's gained 3 ounces in the week since the clipping!!! (I know that doesn't sound like a lot... but really, it is.)

[mtn.mama]

Wow- three ounces is alot in our book! Yay!

[waluso]

I have a question for those of you who had your baby's tongue tie clipped. DD had hers clipped Wed. evening. She was great all day yesterday. Today there was a little blood in her crib - looked like she had spit up or just drooled and it was tinted with blood. And she was really fussy this afternoon and kept putting her hands in her mouth (more so than usual). I'm assuming this is from the clipping. Does this sound normal, or should I be concerned? The dr said she could have some discomfort for a few days but didn't mention any bleeding.

[changingseasons]

I would ask your doc. We had very little blood even during the clipping (literally, a few drops on the doc's glove) and it sounds like you guys had more... so maybe your DD just had more blood vessels there?

But to answer your question, DD had absolutely no bleeding OR obvious discomfort after the procedure (she was all wired and then tantrum-y that night, but no signs of pain or anything.)

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by waluso

I have a question for those of you who had your baby's tongue tie clipped. DD had hers clipped Wed. evening. She was great all day yesterday. Today there was a little blood in her crib - looked like she had spit up or just drooled and it was tinted with blood. And she was really fussy this afternoon and kept putting her hands in her mouth (more so than usual). I'm assuming this is from the clipping. Does this sound normal, or should I be concerned? The dr said she could have some discomfort for a few days but didn't mention any bleeding.

IME that is not uncommon. It's a good time to start up with arnica though! It is a surgical procedure and some kiddos do bleed more than others. The discomfort is generally gone in a few days and aconite does a great job with it. At this point though arnica would be a better choice IMO. HTH! If you have concerns definitely contact your doc. Given what you described though if *I* were you I wouldn't be. Ds first clip was nothing. The second one was more difficult, but still not a big deal. Arnica worked wonders.

One kiddo in particular that I recall had a difficult time and had blood tinged drool for 2 days. Not active bleeding...just when there was discharge there was some pinkish tinge to it.

[waluso]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

I would ask your doc. We had very little blood even during the clipping (literally, a few drops on the doc's glove) and it sounds like you guys had more... so maybe your DD just had more blood vessels there?

But to answer your question, DD had absolutely no bleeding OR obvious discomfort after the procedure (she was all wired and then tantrum-y that night, but no signs of pain or anything.)

Thanks CS, I left a message for the nurse about it. Congrats on the weight gain by the way! That's wonderful. I have noticed a definite difference in DD so far. She is sticking her tongue out which she never really did before. So far no real difference in nursing but I understand that can take a while. I am trying to find someone who can do the craniosacral therapy. And I am still bummed about not having her checked for the posterior tongue tie but I am looking for a dr who can check it. I'm hoping that she either doesn't have it or the dr clipped far enough to get any posterior tie also (although I know that probably didn't/coudn't happen).

[waluso]

Originally Posted by firefaery

IME that is not uncommon. It's a good time to start up with arnica though! It is a surgical procedure and some kiddos do bleed more than others. The discomfort is generally gone in a few days and aconite does a great job with it. At this point though arnica would be a better choice IMO. HTH! If you have concerns definitely contact your doc. Given what you described though if *I* were you I wouldn't be. Ds first clip was nothing. The second one was more difficult, but still not a big deal. Arnica worked wonders.

One kiddo in particular that I recall had a difficult time and had blood tinged drool for 2 days. Not active bleeding...just when there was discharge there was some pinkish tinge to it.

Thanks, this makes me feel much better! What would be the dosage for arnica for a 6.5 mo old?

[AquariusHome]

So if we have the little dimple in the middle of the tongue (on the right side in Ellie's case) and she is unable to stick her tongue out or reach the corners of her mouth with her tongue, and her tongue is flat when she cries, and she doesn't seem to elevate it very far, but she can get it beyone the gum line to the lips does that sound more anterior and posterior? It seem like she has some indicators of both. I have tried like crazy to get a good view under her tongue but she just won't let me. I did a quick swipe with my finger under there and didn't feel a tight frenulum though.

I know I shouldn't spend any energy on this, but I just can not believe with all the hundreds of hours I spent taking this baby to every person I could imagine might be able to help, and triple feeding for months, and twice weekly weight checks 1/2 hr away, and everything else I can't believe this was something so easy to fix and I missed the boat. Those early months were literally some of the most stressful in my life and to find out it was most likely something so easy to fix all along.... Ugh...

CS - I'm so happy to hear all the great progress. 3 oz is awesome!!! ::

[AquariusHome]

Originally Posted by firefaery

she's in Long Island.

Elizabeth Coryllos MD,MS,FAAP,IBCLC
8 Jaegger Drive
Glen Head NY 11545
United States
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

This should be current.

You are so great! Thank you! You have been such a wonderful source of support and information!!! I really appreciate it.

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by waluso

Thanks, this makes me feel much better! What would be the dosage for arnica for a 6.5 mo old?

You just have to place the pellet in her mouth. She'll either swallow, gnaw, or spit it out. You can replace it in her mouth. But, really, if it touches her mouth, she'll get the homeopathic benefit. One pellet is fine. If she manages it in her mouth, then I'd give a couple pellets at the same time. And then repeat as needed.

Or, you can crush the pellet and put it in her mouth. But, theoretically, we are not supposed to touch the pellets with our hand.

Pat

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by waluso

Thanks, this makes me feel much better! What would be the dosage for arnica for a 6.5 mo old?

Yes, one pellet is adequate and I would do it every half hour for 6 or so doses. Then I would keep it up for 3-4 times a day for a day or two. In my mind that should be more than enough.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by LaurieG

So if we have the little dimple in the middle of the tongue (on the right side in Ellie's case) and she is unable to stick her tongue out or reach the corners of her mouth with her tongue, and her tongue is flat when she cries, and she doesn't seem to elevate it very far, but she can get it beyone the gum line to the lips does that sound more anterior and posterior? It seem like she has some indicators of both. I have tried like crazy to get a good view under her tongue but she just won't let me. I did a quick swipe with my finger under there and didn't feel a tight frenulum though.

It could be both. I wouldn't spend time worrying. Better off to find someone who is competent for now and get it evaluated. You have enough on your plate! She has indications....it's time now to get a professional on board. Hopefully Dr. C will have someone she can refer you to.

[SAmama]

I know this thread sort of fizzled out, but I wanted to give and update on us. We saw Dr O'Hara the day after we arrived in Seattle (flying halfway across the world), so we were all a little tired. And then there was a miscommunication about the time of the appointment and she didn't really have time to see us when we got there. I was ready to burst in tears. But, she is really great and examined dd right there on the floor in the waiting room and said we could come back for the procedure later. And, dd completely complied! Since we have been looking into the tongue tie thing dd has refused to have dh or me stick fingers in her mouth or even look at her mouth, for that matter. So, there she was sticking her tongue out and licking her upper lip and letting the doc put her fingers in her mouth! Diagnosis? No tongue tie. Great tongue mobility, as a matter of fact. She also looked at dh and me and said we both have great mobility. I was relieved... and a bit disappointed. It would have been good to have a piece of the puzzle.

I know this is not related to the thread at all, but I had eggs this morning!! We went to see a chiropractor in Coeur d'Alene, Dr. Anthony Smith. He developed something called craniobiotic technique, which used to be called Allertouch. He apparently trains docs from all over the country to do this. He tested dd through muscle testing and said she is only allergic to soy, msg, dairy and wheat. None of the other things we have been avoiding (I had him double, double check ). He then treated her for those and a few other things he diagnosed (all through muscle testing). Interestingly enough, she tested negative for candida (I had him test this three times). I think it is very similar to NAET. Anyway, I feel hopeful, which is a wonderful feeling. : Yesterday, after her treatment, my overtired, travel weary toddler was in a great mood. And she woke up in strange places or in her car seat (worse of the worst) without screaming. Seriously, I was so very amazed. If this works out well I will post more info on a seperate thread later.

[waluso]

Originally Posted by SAmama

I know this thread sort of fizzled out, but I wanted to give and update on us. We saw Dr O'Hara the day after we arrived in Seattle (flying halfway across the world), so we were all a little tired. And then there was a miscommunication about the time of the appointment and she didn't really have time to see us when we got there. I was ready to burst in tears. But, she is really great and examined dd right there on the floor in the waiting room and said we could come back for the procedure later. And, dd completely complied! Since we have been looking into the tongue tie thing dd has refused to have dh or me stick fingers in her mouth or even look at her mouth, for that matter. So, there she was sticking her tongue out and licking her upper lip and letting the doc put her fingers in her mouth! Diagnosis? No tongue tie. Great tongue mobility, as a matter of fact. She also looked at dh and me and said we both have great mobility. I was relieved... and a bit disappointed. It would have been good to have a piece of the puzzle.

I know this is not related to the thread at all, but I had eggs this morning!! We went to see a chiropractor in Coeur d'Alene, Dr. Anthony Smith. He developed something called craniobiotic technique, which used to be called Allertouch. He apparently trains docs from all over the country to do this. He tested dd through muscle testing and said she is only allergic to soy, msg, dairy and wheat. None of the other things we have been avoiding (I had him double, double check ). He then treated her for those and a few other things he diagnosed (all through muscle testing). Interestingly enough, she tested negative for candida (I had him test this three times). I think it is very similar to NAET. Anyway, I feel hopeful, which is a wonderful feeling. : Yesterday, after her treatment, my overtired, travel weary toddler was in a great mood. And she woke up in strange places or in her car seat (worse of the worst) without screaming. Seriously, I was so very amazed. If this works out well I will post more info on a seperate thread later.

That's wonderful! Definitely post back about DD's progress. I would love to hear if it worked. I will be thinking good thoughts for you!

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by SAmama

I know this is not related to the thread at all, but I had eggs this morning!! We went to see a chiropractor in Coeur d'Alene, Dr. Anthony Smith. He developed something called craniobiotic technique, which used to be called Allertouch.

This sounds too good to be true. But, it comes with a three year guarantee? http://www.allertouch.com/sem_What.asp

I'm hopeful and delighted at your experience!


Pat

[mtn.mama]

Tomorrow's our trip to the ENT, to explore possible structural problems that may be precluding my 17 month old from learning to eat/swallow solids. Wish us luck!

[nalo]

LOTS OF LUCK! I hope you find out some useful info.

[Adamsmama]

I do not know a lot about tongue - tie and had no idea it could damage the gut. However, DS1 who is now 5 yrs old is autistic and is globally delayed. I think he is tongue-tied. We never had nursing issues but issues with solids has always been a problem. Also he doesn't speak clearly and many words are mispronounced because his tongue isn't in the right place (if that makes sense). The middle of his tongue goes up to the roof of his mouth but the tip stays low. Anyway -- we've been dealing with chronic diarrhea w/him since he was just over 1 yrs old and haven't been able to figure out the cause.

[SAmama]

Originally Posted by WuWei

This sounds too good to be true. But, it comes with a three year guarantee? http://www.allertouch.com/sem_What.asp

I'm hopeful and delighted at your experience!


Pat

Doesn't it? But, I am desperate and hoping.

I forgot to ask, what else can I use aconite for? I have a whole unused little bottle of it now.