Weekly Chat 11/29 - 12/5 - Page 8

[TaraRae82]

Originally Posted by Changed

Baby's pissy so I'm typing fast and one handed but

I hate the zolo. It's lovely but super uncomfortable. Bought and returned 2. I didn't like the babyhawk either. It was too stiff and I hated the ties. It's also a little cumbersome to get it on in public and I don't like that. I have a hotslings fleece pouch and while it's really comfy, my lo hates anything cradle position. He's an upright kinda guy. If you want a ring sling, I love mine from Kangaroo Korner.

I had an ergo and you're right Tara- they're just not real cute or femenine looking. However, a soft structured carrier would be ideal for you. I work out in mine a lot and for babywearing and working out, you can't beat something that is truly hands free. I can even bend far over and not have to hold his head. I have an angelpack and they're on sale right now at www.frogmama.com but the beco butterfly is supposed to be great too. They have some beautiful prints. Eh, just my two cents.

thanks!! awesome advice! i'll look into those!

[lovemysunshine]

Originally Posted by TaraRae82

Any carriers you can recommend would be great! I feel like I should have at least 2 different kinds if not more.

I would suggest a woven wrap (Didymos or Storchenweige sp?) if you love your wrap that much. There's really no need for different kinds of carriers. that said, I do have a variety and love that. DS is sleeping on me in a Kalea Baby ring sling right now (double linen). My fave slings though are Sakura Bloom. Very pricey, but well worth it for me. I've gotten both of mine used from TBW on the FSOT board and they're both the silk. I had a Zolo with DS1 at first and liked it until he got a bit heavy (and since he started out at 10lbs 1 oz, that wasn't long). After that the shoulder just wasn't comfortable for me.

Mei tais are really nice and I especially love them for back carries. I need one with padded waist and shoulders because my babes are so heavy. I can barely even feel them back there with the padded ones. My favorite is the Himmel. Now that one does have long padding in the shoulders which is not so good if you're not tall (I'm 5'4" and it works for me, but ideally it would not go down so far). And if you choose one of those, I'd definitely go used as it takes forever to receive them (trust me on this). That may change once she goes wholesale and you can buy them from other vendors, but I can't say for sure.

So as you can all see, I am a bw'ing addict.

AAM: I was also sick last weekend and I almost never get sick. DH decided it would be a good idea to go out hiking Saturday morning (I got sick Friday night) and leave me with all 3 kids for 3 hours. And he didn't tell me ahead of time. Well, turns out there's more to the story than that and I am currently trying to figure out exactly what is going on. I don't really want to elaborate too much more right now, but I would really appreciate your prayers and positive thoughts for our marriage and the decisions he appears to be making.

On a better note, DS is 6 weeks old today. I met with my mw yesterday and he is 14 lbs 9 oz! Yay for big chubby babies!

[crosscat]

Originally Posted by mamanurse

The fabrics available for mei tais make it so much fun. Like a true fashion accessory. Okay... Maybe Stacy and Clinton would disagree.

Stacy and Clinton are my guilty pleasure. I watch them each day while having lunch. Watching now, in fact.

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

Morning, mamas!

All this bw'ing talk makes me feel like there's a club that I'm not part of! I just cannot get this figured out!

Lets say I want to go to the mall with Nora. We drive over there, park in the deck (b/c maybe it's a degree warmer). Somehow I manage to get her into the wrap/carrier that I've got outside w/o either of us freezing our butts off. I'm still confused! Do you guys wear your baby and still bring the stroller/carseat into the mall with you? How would you go about trying clothes on if you don't have a carrier to put baby in? What about carrying bags? Wouldn't it make sense to still have the stroller to put the diaper bag in and other packages you pick up?

I really want to do this! But I can't justify buying more carriers (the angelbaby ones are so pretty) until I actually get use out of the one I have!

I've only gone clothes shopping twice since having Calla. Each time, DH came along. First time, he was wearing her in the babyhawk while I shopped. Second time, we used the stroller - I think just for the novelty of it since we've only used it a handful of times.

I'd probably take a stroller if clothes shopping all alone. I remember once upon a time reading a thread on MDC about babywearing and changing rooms and one of the mamas joked about eyeing the hook in the changing room before finally deciding the floor would be a lot safer.

I also think you might be like me. Without having someone to actually show me, I never would have figured out the wrap. And I think when my friend comes by with pointers on pouches I'm going to feel a lot more comfortable with those carriers. I'm surprised I figured out the babyhawk on my own, but I really think it's pretty simple and straightforward.

Anyway, is there anyone who could show you how to do the wrap? Like perhaps your midwife (or maybe she could recommend someone) or maybe someone like Sonshine_Rae could be at an LLL meeting in your area doing babywearing demos? We used to have a cool shop here called Mothersville, where they'd have workshops and so forth. I just think you'd probably benefit from some hands on assistance. I hope you can get some. Then again maybe the wrap just isn't the right carrier for you. But if you are determined to give it your best shot, I'd get someone to help out hands on.

Originally Posted by lovemysunshine

On a better note, DS is 6 weeks old today. I met with my mw yesterday and he is 14 lbs 9 oz! Yay for big chubby babies!

Aww I love chubby babies! Calla is around 14 and a half at nearly eight weeks, so your little guy must be very rolly-polly!

Best of luck to you with your issues with DH.


AAM: Let's hear it for Calla! She let mama sleep last night. She had her days and nights mixed up, I think. Seems like we're getting back on track. Everybody is so happy at my house today since it's Friday, we got sleep, etc.
Have a great weekend everyone!!!

[lee1203]

Originally Posted by audsma

My MW recommended not to have a pediatrician, just keep track on the milestones ourselves and just go to walk in clinics when needed, to vax if we want to at public health, and to maintain chiro care with the little one. This is how I was raised (minus the vax- I got those all before leaving for college.) DD had a ped- who said he'd support delay or no vax, but didn't really. Do any of you do this?

No, but I like the idea! I still haven't managed to find and schedule an appt. with a doctor and she's 6 weeks old. The midwives did the pku, at least.

Carrie, I agree - if using a stroller works for you then do that. I like my babyhawk quite a lot, but it is a little cumbersome to get on. I either just have us suck it up in the cold for a few seconds while I put her in it, or I get her inside wherever quickly then put her in it. Mind, I live in Texas so it's not like the cold is REALLY cold or anything.

[LemonPie]

LOL. I always wonder what Stacy and Clinton would say about wearing the baby as an accessory. They're one of my guilty pleasures too.

[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by Tiger Lily

LOL. I always wonder what Stacy and Clinton would say about wearing the baby as an accessory. They're one of my guilty pleasures too.

Mine too!

I was really just thinking about leaving the house once in awhile with the baby. I feel kinda trapped. The last time we went out was 2 weeks ago to BRU and she had a really bad spit up episode and lots of crying ensued! Although...I haven't had her spit up in awhile now, and I'm sure she'd be ok being worn rather than in the seat. I dunno, I'm just not brave enough to venture out often! Maybe over the weekend we'll do a trial run with me wearing her but DH can come to help out.

So, I'm going back to work soon, and my MIL is going to watch Nora during the day when I do. We were supposed to find lots of time to hang out together this month, so they could really get to know each other before this happens, but she's been sick with a cold. So...I'm getting nervous about leaving Nora alone with her b/c they haven't had any time to bond. I wish she would hurry up and feel better so we could spend our days over there! Such a source of frustration for me!

[Amber Lion]

Originally Posted by audsma

My MW recommended not to have a pediatrician, just keep track on the milestones ourselves and just go to walk in clinics when needed, to vax if we want to at public health, and to maintain chiro care with the little one. This is how I was raised (minus the vax- I got those all before leaving for college.) DD had a ped- who said he'd support delay or no vax, but didn't really. Do any of you do this?

Addie is 6 weeks already and I'm just now trying to connect with a Natropathic Doc here in town. I think she does vaxes, but I'm not sure and I'm not even sure which ones we're doing yet. Anyways, if anything major happens we'll have to go to the public health clinic, but I do want a relationship with someone who will at least be able to tell me what is going on, what I need to go get from public health, etc. Also, this being my first baby, I think WBV will be helpful cause I don't know what milestones there are!

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

All this bw'ing talk makes me feel like there's a club that I'm not part of! I just cannot get this figured out!

Aww, sorry you're feeling left out! Honestly, I wear Addie b/c that's what she wants and she'll fuss if it's something different. Although, she is getting more used to her swing so I can put her down there for a while. Anyways, in the scenario you're talking about I can see where babywearing would be complicated!! I don't go clothes shopping... so I've no idea! Honestly, I'd say at that point I'd be bringing the stroller too. Mostly though I'm grocery shopping and then bwing is awesome!!!

Originally Posted by lovemysunshine

I don't really want to elaborate too much more right now, but I would really appreciate your prayers and positive thoughts for our marriage and the decisions he appears to be making.

Sorry you're going through a rough time! Many and positive thoughts for your marriage are coming your way!

Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes

I was really just thinking about leaving the house once in awhile with the baby. I feel kinda trapped.

So, I'm going back to work soon, and my MIL is going to watch Nora during the day when I do. We were supposed to find lots of time to hang out together this month, so they could really get to know each other before this happens, but she's been sick with a cold. So...I'm getting nervous about leaving Nora alone with her b/c they haven't had any time to bond. I wish she would hurry up and feel better so we could spend our days over there! Such a source of frustration for me!

I really think getting out of the house would make you feel better! If I don't get out I start to feel trapped too... and then start not getting dressed... and not eating... and the downward spiral ensues. Even if it's just for a quick walk, get out!

And, I was nervous about leaving Addie with my doula on Tuesday night, but it all went fine. I'd planned on going over early so we'd ease her into the transition, but it didn't happen that way and we basically just threw Addie at my doula and took off running. Addie didn't squawk about it at all. She was perfectly content the whole night. I think the whole separation anxiety thing starts a bit later, when babes are young they tend to be ok with people... or maybe I'm just making that up. Anyways, good luck with that! I think it will all work out ok.

AAM: So we took Addie out to eat last night and it went REALLY good! I nursed in the wrap twice, she got a little fussy, but I was able to calm her down really quickly and then she passed out and I got to eat my meal.

Then, my back was killing me, so when she woke up AGAIN as I laid her in her co-sleeper I just could not fathom picking her back up for another round of shushing to sleep. (This was the 3rd round!) So I told Dh it was his turn. His comment, "She doesn't go to sleep for me ever, she'll only go to sleep for you!" Well, I think he's tried to get her to sleep ONCE before and I told him so and that if he never tries to put her to sleep then she never will fall asleep for him... then I climbed in bed and went to sleep myself! I heard this morning that it took him 1.5 hours and a bottle before she eventually fell asleep, but I think he got the point that falling asleep can't be a Mommy only activity and he's gotta figure out his own ways of doing things for her. But I got an awesome night of sleep! From 10 to 4!! Woohoo!

[PassionateWriter]

only have a sec before getting ds2 from school.

re: bw'ing and shopping, im not a big mall shopper so i tend to go to smaller stores and they have buggies. i dont use strollers though but if you are buying a lot i guess the stroller could be useful for holding purchases. For me, w/ ds3, it just took a few months to get used to different carriers.

Carrie, you say that you have been inside for 2 weeks? you may be different from me, but that would certainly make me depressed. i have a hard time staying in one day a week. Im scared im going to get in a lot of trouble in the winter time. at least i have a AWD car i guess.

someone mentioned pediatricians. we havent had one in several years but we do have a family dr. The family dr. office we go to has a naturopath in the office and is perfectly fine with our non vaxing status. you could do what the MW suggested but i prefer to hvae a Dr. i can go to that i know is fine with what we chose to do rather than the random dr. at walk in cliinics (who also tend to push vax's, esp. for non vaxed kids). [

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[Baby_Cakes]

Originally Posted by PassionateWriter

Carrie, you say that you have been inside for 2 weeks? you may be different from me, but that would certainly make me depressed. i have a hard time staying in one day a week. Im scared im going to get in a lot of trouble in the winter time. at least i have a AWD car i guess.

Oh, only during the day with Nora. I meant we hadn't gone anywhere together in about 2 weeks. I go out to the gym 3 nights a week, and sometimes I'll go food shopping or to Target when DH gets home so I can get a break and get out in the world.

[heidirk]

Wow! I missed so much!

First of all- Tararae- you look so pretty w/o your makeup! No apologies necessary!

Second- Crazybee- I'm hiring you to come train my DH.


On a general note- My DH is depressed too. In fact, I'm doing way better than he is, even though I'm alone with the boys for 14 hours every day. I think I'm too busy to be depressed. I'm actually getting some sleep too, an though I'm feeling very muddleheaded today for some reason.


Thanks to whomever posted the pics of meitai wears, I neve thought of trying to do a cradle carry in a meitai- I'm not at my most creative right now.

Also, I guess the Babyhjawk started out stiff, but it did soften up, and I love it because it's so sturdy. I also am trying to figure out how to do the house/carseat/store/carseat juggle with Bw'ing too. I'd kill for a BW'ing coat but I can't find any that are not 250 dollars or more. I'll take an recommendations anyone cares to offer.

I';m trying to decorate for Christmas, and not accomplishing much more than making a mess. But I do that with Ease anyway.

Now I have to go pump, bc Milo is sleeping, and I have a boob that's about to explode in my face. . .

[crosscat]

All three of us went out to one of my most favorite restaurants tonight and we had such a nice time! It wasn't technically Calla's first trip to a restaurant (we went for quick lunch at a Mexican restaurant when she was 3 weeks old), but it seemed eventful nonetheless.

Calla was alert, but quiet. I wore her in the Moby and even though I had fed her just before we left, she decided she wanted to eat too. I think she smells food and gets hungry... Anyway I nursed in public for the first time. I nursed her in the wrap (thanks for the inspiration, Amber_Lion). It wasn't exactly graceful, as I've never nursed in the wrap before, but it was discreet and effective.

The restaurant owners know us well and were thrilled to finally meet Calla. It was a very nice night overall. Makes me feel more confident about considering going out with DH and baby more often.

Cat & Calla having fun at the Ethiopian restaurant

[janasmama]

Hello everyone-

I read some but not all. I want another baby carrier also. i have a sleepywrap, a MW and a fleece pouch. I like the SW the best but I want a mei tei also. I have to wear Annie...my other two run around so much it keeps her close to me when we are out.

I did buy a lightweight stroller (this one) to keep my DS in since he likes to run off or I may have to put Annie in it to carry DS b/c going out w/ all 3 can be hell!

Maybe the lightweight stroller would be a good option for you Carrie...? I like to have options...wether it's used for carrying stuff, diaper changing, etc.

[JMarie930]

Originally Posted by TaraRae82

Yay for typing 2-handed! It's a rare occurance if you're not BW'ing!

I'm typing 2-handed and I get to eat a whole peanut butter and preserves sandwich! She's sleeping in her Moby...

I haven't gotten brave enough to invest in another carrier because I adore the Moby so much. I didn't like the HotSling I got so I took it back and the carriers like Ergo just don't appeal to me. I need help working with a pouch I guess. I'm pretty sure I just wasn't doing it right or got the wrong size (even though I followed the chart...). Any carriers you can recommend would be great! I feel like I should have at least 2 different kinds if not more.

I actually *love* my Zolo slings (I have three - a cotton, a silk, and a Solarveil). I hiked Chimney Rock in NC with DS in the cotton one when he was 9 months old. It was a good two hour hike and I had no problems at all with it. The cotton one stays in the car almost exclusively, so I always have it when we're out. I'll use the Solarveil one once it starts warming up - it has UV protection built right in. The silk Zolo is for nice occasions, like church or going out for a nice dinner. I'll wear it to my sister's graduation and DH's cousin's wedding in May.

I use the Moby or the 4th Generation Beco at home. I have a toddler BabyHawk and am hoping to get a regular one for Christmas from DH. I've used my Hotsling and it's okay, but DD doesn't like it as well as the sling, wrap, or SSC. I really REALLY want an Olives and Applesauce SSC, but it's just not in the budget right now. Maybe when DD is a little bigger. I've yet to try a woven wrap, but I'd like to at some point. I just know eventually she'll get too big for the stretchy Moby.

[nycmom18]

doc pushed on soft spot. normal?

Hello Fellow Moms,

I am new here so not sure if I am posting in correct topic, but maybe someone could help me out. We went to the doc for regular 6 month check-up yesterday and when I asked about my son's front soft spot, the doc felt it, but it looked to me that he was pushing really hard. I know that doctors are much more "assertive" in their mannerisms with the babies because they do these things all the time. but my son starting crying when he did it, and I've been worrying ever since. This is my first child. Please let me know if anyone has had the same experience and if it should be alright. Thanks!

[sonshine_rae]

This would probably be best to ask about in 'life with a babe' (http://www.mothering.com/discussions...splay.php?f=32) this section is specific to babies who were born in October 08'.

However I've never heard of a doctor 'pushing' on a soft spot, I can understand touching it to see if it's dented in too much or such, but being rough is just uncalled for! You might consider a different doctor in the future.

[Changed]

Guess it depends on why you asked. He may have been trying to feel pulsation if you mentioned that it looked bulging or something...