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post #41 of 67
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Originally Posted by leila1213 View Post
What I'm even angrier and more scared about is the speed with which we/they are obliterating the health of every traditional population on the planet.
This is my main concern. What will happen to the human race when the entirety of if indulges in denatured food-like substances? Will we die off? Will we evolve into some odd creature that needs chemicals to survive (if that is even possible with our limited resources)? How dangerous, unhappy, and scary will my grandchildren's world be if nothing changes? And what kind of amazing creatures are humans really, when they eat biologically appropriate, and are closer to the earth? It's sad to know we are profoundly cool, and yet we are unable to express it because of physical ills and lack of brain power (foggy brain anyone?).
post #42 of 67
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Originally Posted by godusjourney View Post
This is my main concern. What will happen to the human race when the entirety of if indulges in denatured food-like substances? Will we die off? Will we evolve into some odd creature that needs chemicals to survive (if that is even possible with our limited resources)? How dangerous, unhappy, and scary will my grandchildren's world be if nothing changes? And what kind of amazing creatures are humans really, when they eat biologically appropriate, and are closer to the earth? It's sad to know we are profoundly cool, and yet we are unable to express it because of physical ills and lack of brain power (foggy brain anyone?).
We will certainly need chemicals to survive if we keep stripping our soils of their nutrients.

That's the part that really, really gets to me about what other people eat. Frankly, if they want to mess up their health and their kids' health, I don't really care too much beyond feeling sorry for the kids, even though we have a socialized health care system. It's the fact that they're supporting monocropping, industrial farming, widespread use of fertilizer, pesticide, herbicides, MONSANTO for crying out loud... they're messing up the whole planet because they can't see life without Wheaties or whatever. But what makes me even angrier are bloody government subsidies for these practises!!!!! ARGH.
post #43 of 67
I try to keep a low profile. I'm actually really self-conscious about the way I eat, and I cringe every time someone notices I'm sipping on a mason jar full of kefir or having a snack of Braunschweiger (from U.S. Wellness Meats). I know I should get over it, but it just hurts when people say things like, "Ewww, what IS that?" Someone at school today made a comment that really bothered me but which I'm pretty sure he thought was a compliment: "That's so weird...but you're Chelsea! You can get away with anything, even keeping a jar of God knows what on your desk."

I probably should be more vocal, because I am one of those "poster children." I lost 30 pounds when I started eating TF two years ago, and I haven't had any type of illness that lasted longer than a day since, but I don't like confrontation. I just don't bring it up unless someone specifically asks. Even then, only if we're in semi-private and I know the person well.

My husband, on the other hand, will shout it from the rooftops. It kind of upsets me, because he'll often get into a conversation further than he actually has the knowledge to continue, and then refer the person to me, and I don't want to argue with people when they're fighting for their addiction.
post #44 of 67
I go back and forth, but mostly am thankful that I jumped on the TF wagon. At times it is tiring and tough to spend so much on food when we don't have a lot of money. What encourages me are the friends and family who eat this way too. I'm blessed to have many friends who have made the choice to eat TF because it makes sense to them once they start reading. My folks have also gone back to some of the nutrient dense eating that they grew up with. It's exciting to see them embrace raw milk and CLO. If all I had was the people in my surrounding community it would be very tough continue to eat this way.
Honestly, seeing my dd's baby teeth space out makes it all worth it too. It's amazing to me that the arch can continue to grow wider at 3 and 4 years of age. Whenever I get tired of all the work and cost I ask her for a big smile and those beautiful teeth with increasing spaces keep me going.
post #45 of 67
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Originally Posted by lastrid View Post
Absolutely. I feel so helpless when trying to tell people the truth too because I think they all think I am a loon. Ignorance is truly bliss.
Same here!
post #46 of 67
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Originally Posted by leila1213 View Post
What I'm even angrier and more scared about is the speed with which we/they are obliterating the health of every traditional population on the planet.
Just got back from New Zealand…wow, what a place. I was on the plane speaking with a woman about Maori (native Islanders in New Zealand) and their current health problems - alcoholism, obesity, diabetes, to name a few. Out of curiosity, I asked her what she thought the "problem" was with the Aboriginal, Maori and Native American communities? (she’s an Aussie, I’m an American who lives in Australia) She blamed a lot of their health, drug abuse, crime, apathy on "entitlement"...that they felt they were owed something because their land was taken from them. Of course, I went the food route. I hypothesized that perhaps their bodies haven't evolved to be able to handle modern processed foods...that perhaps because the Maoris lived mostly on raw fish fats and meats, some local birds and grubs, that introducing foods that have a high sugar content creates an imbalance in their bodies...that these foods, even bread, cause sugar addictions and unfortunately many seek an even greater sugar fix...alcohol. That perhaps if they returned to a native diet they would have no problems with their insulin, mood disorders, they wouldn't be depressed, overweight...

Of course there are other factors here that I will not get into, but diet is such a crucial factor in the health of these native cultures. It's so sad, and almost brought a tear to my eye every time I saw a Maori child eat a sugar laden cookie at the Cookie Time cookie shop that is on EVERY corner in EVERY neighborhood. Almost like the MAN wants to poison these people to keep them down and out.

It is truly appalling, sickening, and downright depressing to me, modern processed foods. I feel that it has created a great divide between me and my husband's family. TF becomes more than a way of eating, but a way of life and it's truly hard for some people who have succumbed to convenience to understand this.

I still yearn for that village where everyone was eating TF and life was a lot simpler for all of us. At least I like to think that life was more ideal back then...if only there was just a little more balance, I would take that.

I feel like I swallowed the wrong pill, but I am glad I did. Otherwise, I would probably be in a much, much worse state than I am mentally and physically and my children too. I thank God for bringing me to TF. It's a hard road but our children and our world are worth it.

I can go on and on and on about this (how I think that the food put out there is used to make dumb worker bee zombies out of all of us) but I am a serious conspiracy theorist and I need to stop now.
post #47 of 67
i am with you on the dumb worker bees thing. i also think its because its way more cost effective for the processed food and pharmaceutical industries this is why the reccomend more processed for .. such as tofu and rice cakes if someone is overweight or unhealthy. then they either lose weight or gain weight... but still get more unhealthy so the pharma companies can give us lots of pills!
post #48 of 67
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Ah, yes, the conspiracy theories. We're all koo-koo, aren't we? (How do you spell that, anyway?)

I was just watching Bizarre Foods and he was in Ethopia. They showed the whole process of breaking down this palm-like tree into basically a big hole full of the pulp (they use the fiber for ropes & sacks and things), which ferments for 3 months. Then they wash and dry it into a flour consistency. It is then made into 3 different dishes that are pretty much breakfast, lunch and dinner. It tasted horribly strong to Andrew Zimmern, but to them, in his words "it's like mother's milk" (the native Ethiopian just grinned a beautiful white-toothed smile).

It is so amazing how these recipes and rituals evolved to feed everyone in such a nutritious manner, everywhere around the world in slightly (or vastly!) different ways. And no wonder that our bodies have adapted with the appropriate gut flora to process that exact traditional diet to make the most & best use of it. But alas, we sadly did not absorb the knowledge and foresight to realize that we should try new exciting foods at great peril to our entire being and way of life for generations to come.
post #49 of 67
Usually all I have to mention is how my teeth are healing.
Then I tell them how my husband, who has type 1 diabetes no longer has the so called normal side affects associated with type 1.

Next thing they know, they are signing up to watch Sally Fallon's seminar in our home.:
This way, I just provide the support system.
We are nearly set up as a WAPF chapter here, so we intend to continue with the "evangalism".
Paula
post #50 of 67
Hi! Sometimes I really feel this way. We do traditional foods, but we have actually taken it a step farther and are doing mainly a raw/primal diet. We are a little more lenient than the primal diet (we allow more fruit, nuts). However, I have really been feeling down about how different we are from everyone. It seems to hurt us socially a bit. I don't know
I would actually be ecstatic to go back to TF only and would feel it was a LOT less restricting than all raw. Even being able to bake some things or eat things similar to other people would be enough for me......

LOL- so I guess you can say I wish I could go back sometimes and stick with the TF pill.....I went a little farther and took another one....oh my.
post #51 of 67
Oh yeah, there are days where I totally wish I was oblivious to all of this. But if I was, I'd be much, much sicker than I am.

I run a TF-oriented business, so when people ask what I do, I state that I write cookbooks. From there, I only mention it more if they ask, or if they ask why I can't eat in a social situation (I'm celiac). Most folks who know me casually know I'm recovering from being pretty sick, so I try not to say much unless they bring it up and prod for more.
post #52 of 67
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post #53 of 67
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Originally Posted by leila1213 View Post
Wow. That is positively vile. The test room folks seemed a little gussied up and too "stagey" to make me fully believe that part, but the village parts... Yeah, that's just evil.
post #54 of 67
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Originally Posted by leila1213 View Post
You know, my main attitude is to live and let live, but this bothered me. First of all, the money wasted in using a helicopter to get a bk broiler to remote villages is just mind boggling. How about using that money for starting local co-ops or something. Second of all, the absolute cluelessness of the of testers thinking they are "sharing" cultures....ughhhhh. Our culture is a fast food nasty hamburger. Tsk...tsk.....

I'm going to go think about something a bit more cheery.
post #55 of 67
Notice all the nice, wide faces on the whopper virgins? Not like the narrow, collapsed faces on the folks who enjoy the burgers regularly....
post #56 of 67
I heartily agree with everyone here!

What's worse is how easy it can be for me to fall off the TF wagon, and not necessarily forget what I know, but it can lose its power if I'm not paying attention. I just got back to it after several months lost in the rest of my life (a big break-up at the beginning of the year, multiple moves, a new relationship, career changes) and I'm just amazed at some of the things I let back into my diet (Starbucks soy lattes for one: - way too much sugar for another. At least I stuck to my GF/DF needs, which probably helped me stay somewhat conscious.

Has anyone else gone through this? Of not really forgetting, but sort of forgetting and allowing yourself to fall away from TF? More than anything else, this MDC forum keeps me gratefully on track...which is why I'm still here even though there is no baby in my foreseeable future.

Leila1213, what's the book on your signature? I didn't see a sig on your posts.
post #57 of 67
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Originally Posted by leila1213 View Post
oh my GOD. i couldn't even watch it. i had to stop at the segment where the "whopper virgins" started the taste testing. they didn't even recognize the burgers as FOOD!! they were looking at them like, "what do i do with this?" and when they ate it, i didn't notice a sense of pleasure on their faces.

this SO makes me want to run around in the street screaming "BURGER KING IS EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!" but i'll keep my kookieness to myself!

OH. MY. GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

leila1213 - why did you remove your siggy? i have a question about the book too (if you don't mind)...are there any suggestions on an appropriate diet for a dairy-free child? i went to the website and couldn't find anything about dairy allergies. the book looks absolutely wonderful, though!! right in line with a lot of my beliefs.
post #58 of 67
Ok, so when out and about, do you see health issues and want to recommend whole foods to complete strangers? I saw a chef at the farmer's market with severe acne and thought, you need some probiotics, biotin, iodine... Saw someone with eczema and had to bite my tongue not to go up to them and tell them about pasteurized dairy and processed wheat dangers. Complete strangers and I find it hard to just say nothing.


Pat
post #59 of 67
Yeah I question everything about health/diet these days since I am sick now with parasites and intestinal yeast. I try not to wallow in self pity, but look all around me every day at everyone who eats junk and is somewhat healthy, and then back at myself who has been into TF for 3 years and it is MY gut that got messed up. And I'm like, how did this happen since I eat better than literally everyone I know? I really thought TF would have my system built up enough to handle 2 courses of amoxacillan and 1 course of clindamyacin plus moderate stress over the course of that time, but no luck. These people have had more than that, plus poor diet and their guts are fine. *Sigh*

So I could keep wondering what happened in the past to make this happen, or I could choose to be thankful I have the wealth of TF and natural health knowledge to actually heal myself, and hopefully help others in the same boat in the future. And like Krankedyann said, I probably would be a lot more sick if I DIDN'T have TF.
post #60 of 67
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
Ok, so when out and about, do you see health issues and want to recommend whole foods to complete strangers? I saw a chef at the farmer's market with severe acne and thought, you need some probiotics, biotin, iodine... Saw someone with eczema and had to bite my tongue not to go up to them and tell them about pasteurized dairy and processed wheat dangers. Complete strangers and I find it hard to just say nothing.


Pat
I do a fair amount of proseletyzing within my local natural moms group. But seeing as how DH just brought home canola oil and soy flour the other day, I am not feeling too confident in my skills of persuasion. I did get a mama with a mentally troubled hubby to take a look at the GAPS book. She was grateful for the info, so that made me feel good. I've also managed to get quite a few to question the daily use of sunscreen, and instead look to coconut oil, etc.

I am interested to hear about the acne remedies. I've been trying to supplement with zinc for that. So, iodine and biotin, huh? Can I get them at the HFS?
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