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post #41 of 88
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Yes, we have an insert... we have access to alot of wood due to the hurricane winds that struck, and we have people who saved us wood.... we just would need to get it. I am going to call around and see what I can find. You know.... We aren't the type of family to live on assistance ( we only get secondary health ins. thru the state), we don't qualify for anything else. And we don't usually ask for help. We live in a nice township in the country, and ummm.... our house is on the lower end, but there are three golf courses out here, and most people are very upitty.... so you would never want to let them know you are struggling.... Anyways, the biggest part of our problem is we OWN our home outright, and since that is seen as an asset, it makes it hard to get assistance. We are moving in August, so we have been trying to sell our home, but with the market as it is,,,, there have been no hits. We will get by one way or another! But thanks for those who are supportive
post #42 of 88
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should add that our credit stinks.... so even though we have thought about taking out a mortgage on the house.... we don't think that would work, not only that, but then we would have an added bill each month.
post #43 of 88
I'm struggling with this one because it hits home...if one of my families(i'm a social worker) does not get heat connected this week, we have to involve CPS, because not having heat in the winter months if you have kids is considered neglect here...and it's killing me, it's such a nice family.....
anyway....you say that getting a job will make it so you have to find daycare...can you not work when your dh is at home? Perhaps something overnight or weekends? a paper route?(when times are really tough here, dh does one for a while, it's $100 a week) can dh give plasma for money? Here you can get like $50 for that(not you since you are pg)....Anything at all you can sell? how is your credit? is there any way at all you can apply for a credit card and use it?
also...you say nobody has any help until next year....is this for certain or what? Because if your "plan" for getting the heat/electric turned back on is to get financial assistance (as opposed to getting the money yourselves from a job, etc) then are you certain you will actually get the assistance? what happens if you do not get the assistance? does the month turn into 2..or 3..or the whole winter? I'm not accusing, just honestly asking. What a stressful situation. I hope you find a solution.
post #44 of 88
I did it quite a bit pre-kids, but we had neighbors who would let us use an extention cord, so we at least had a space heater and a light.
It's very do-able if you have a friendly neighbor. But other than that, I don't know.
post #45 of 88
Thread Starter 
Sorry, dh has epilepsy and can not give plasma due to his medications.... he would if he could... he also is a full time student in the evening at a university, and we just began online courses for seminary So, we are very busy. Again.... I won't post again, I hope this thread dies, sorry I asked. Thanks for the advice
post #46 of 88
I know you want this thread to die, but I have to ask...are you on a well? Obviously, you wouldn't have water if you were.

How about a roommate? Could you get someone moved in that soon?
post #47 of 88
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Originally Posted by baileyandmikey View Post
Sorry, dh has epilepsy and can not give plasma due to his medications.... he would if he could... he also is a full time student in the evening at a university, and we just began online courses for seminary So, we are very busy. Again.... I won't post again, I hope this thread dies, sorry I asked. Thanks for the advice
So sorry that you are in this position. I have a son with asthma and I can't imagine the stress this must be causing you.

One thought I did have was that if the worst comes to the worst and your power is cut off, call your Internet provider and see about cancelling your service (I think you mentionned earlier it was prepaid for the year) you may be able to get a refund as you won't be using it without any power.

Also, regular phones that plug into the wall (not cordless) work without electricity so you might want to make sure you have one of those.

For the kids, make sure that they have scarves that they can cover their mouths with. The cold air is really hard on asthmatic lungs and the scarf will help warm the air before it gets to the lungs. Our doctor always reminds us of this every winter. It may also help filter a bit of the smoke that will be in the air. Obviously they won't be able to do that at night when they are sleeping but if you do it during the day, it will help.

One last thing I thought of was to suggest you try calling the Salvation Army. A Google search brought up plenty of links for Ohio so you should be able to find one in your area. They have programs for assistance with utilities.

Good luck.
post #48 of 88
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Originally Posted by baileyandmikey View Post
Sorry, dh has epilepsy and can not give plasma due to his medications.... he would if he could... he also is a full time student in the evening at a university, and we just began online courses for seminary So, we are very busy. Again.... I won't post again, I hope this thread dies, sorry I asked. Thanks for the advice
Im sorry but you asked for information on this and now it seems your not accepting it? It just seems from all your responses that you already have your mind made up? Good luck with it if you decide to shut it off. I have to agree though that if you do get it shut off then when you go to turn it back on its gonna cost alot. DH had to pay out $400 as a deposit when he turned it on in our little house. Just something to think about.
Also just a though- are you crafty? Could you sew up some clothes or cloth diapers or something and sell them for money?
post #49 of 88
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we just began online courses for seminary
What is the plan to continue this course if you don't have electricity to run a computer? Even if you have a laptop, it is going to need charging.

Can you back out of the courses & get your $ back, then start the course later when you have money to afford it all?
post #50 of 88
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Originally Posted by mrscompgeek View Post
Im sorry but you asked for information on this and now it seems your not accepting it? It just seems from all your responses that you already have your mind made up?
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It seems you want to go electric free and dont want to keep it on. I'm sorry but it seems that way. I would start a thread in living off the grid and ask for tips.
post #51 of 88
If you are really concerned about the health of your DS and how this could affect his asthma, you might want to contact his pulmonologist's office and tell them the situation. They might be able to get you help even if you don't qualify for most regular assistance. If living without electricity and relying on fireplace heat could make him dangerously ill, a doctor's letter to the elect. company could go a long way, liability-wise, I would imagine.
post #52 of 88
I think it is possible to live without electricity, but if someone chooses to live that way, they are usually prepared and have thought it out far in advance. Trying to cope with everyday life, especially with young children with health issues, could be terribly difficult. I just think most people would try everything, including 2nd jobs, stopping courses that could postponed, even begging from relatives, to keep their electricity on. I don't think people realize how dependent they are on electricity until they go without. A day or two is fun - lots of candles, playing games, etc. - but indefinitely? Nope. Everyone here has been helpful, I think, so I am not sure why you are so defensive..........
post #53 of 88
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Originally Posted by baileyandmikey View Post
We aren't the type of family to live on assistance ( we only get secondary health ins. thru the state), we don't qualify for anything else. And we don't usually ask for help.
I expect there are some former junior investment bankers from Lehmann Brothers saying something similar this winter.
post #54 of 88
I know that education is a hugely important but can't your husband take this semester/trimester/whatever off so he can work more? I would think that taking care of a family would be much more important that school considering the circumstances. School can wait, the health of your children can't. He's gonna be sitting in a warm classroom while you and your kids are toughing it out at home every night? Why both online and on campus classes?

Sometimes future plans take a backseat to necessity.
post #55 of 88
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Originally Posted by CarrieMF View Post
What is the plan to continue this course if you don't have electricity to run a computer? Even if you have a laptop, it is going to need charging.

Can you back out of the courses & get your $ back, then start the course later when you have money to afford it all?
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Originally Posted by not now View Post
I know that education is a hugely important but can't your husband take this semester/trimester/whatever off so he can work more? I would think that taking care of a family would be much more important that school considering the circumstances. School can wait, the health of your children can't. He's gonna be sitting in a warm classroom while you and your kids are toughing it out at home every night? Why both online and on campus classes?

Sometimes future plans take a backseat to necessity.
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post #56 of 88
I know you just want this thread to die ( to the OP) but I think what everyone is saying is that this is more than just losing the heat.
Losing your electricity will mean that your appliances and electronics will no longer work in your house. No more computer or telephone, or hello, internet. Also, your fridge will not stay cold and all your food will spoil. You will have no hot water for maintaining sanitary clean dishes and clean bodies.. etc..
Not to mention to start your service again after a lapse is way more expensive than keeping it on.

If I were you I would be freaking out about keeping the electricity on. SELL SELL SELL. Take all your DVDs and sell them. Do whatever it takes. That's what I would tell my very best friend too, and it is said with love and concern!
post #57 of 88
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Originally Posted by Mountaingirl79 View Post
If I were you I would be freaking out about keeping the electricity on. SELL SELL SELL. Take all your DVDs and sell them. Do whatever it takes.
That's what I think too. It doesn't sound as though your DH has more than one job and you're not working at all? Is nobody hiring? McDonalds? Anywhere at all. Cleaning houses? Paper route? I would be seriously concerned about CPS getting involved under these circumstances. Best of luck to you.
post #58 of 88
Don't be sorry you asked. A lot of people are going to be needing this information in the next few years. Hard financial times, poverty, the energy crisis causing grid overload and extended outages, esp. in more rural areas, this is real & it is our future. This information needs to be out there.

Sharon Astyk has a series on how to survive after your power goes out. It is MUST READ information. She writes, "Right now, in the very early stages of a Depression, most people are able to work out a deal with the power company, to put it on a credit card. That will not last forever - the credit will dry up and the ability to get funds will too. Please, start thinking now about how you will deal with extended utility outages - this is one of those things where your level of suffering is directly related to how much in advance you plan for."

Multiple posts about what to do when the lights go out:

http://sharonastyk.com/2008/06/24/li...dinary-people/


OP, you NEED to get new carbon monoxide detectors and drain your plumbing. You'll be okay. Make sure your school age child knows not to talk about it.

This is coming for most of us, folks.
post #59 of 88
Another thought I had was: do you have anything at all that you can cash in? I'm talking bonds, GICs, retirement funds, college funds, life insurance policies etc.? I know that it usually isn't advised to touch these sort of things but desperate times call for desperate measures. DH and I are fully prepared to cash these sorts of things in if things get that bad.

DH inherited a collection of quarters from his grandma that have great sentimental value to him but he is prepared to use them if absolutely necessary. Do you have anything like that?

Just trying to brainstorm some different ideas for getting the cash to cover your bill. I hope you are still reading and know that we are not saying you are a bad person, we really want to help. I have been thinking about you a lot since you first posted and trying to think of ways to help out. When I was pregnant with DS1 our furnace broke and we woke up to a house that was 50 degrees in the middle of a snow storm. It was a miserable day for me while I waited for them to come (I was made a priority call and I still had to wait a few hours). I can't imagine having to spend that much time and energy trying to keep warm all day and all night. I was exhausted by the end of the day.

Please, please, please let us help you. I worry for you and your children.
post #60 of 88
Mountaingirl79, I don't think you are giving the OP enough credit. Telling her her food will spoil is not helpful. She already mentioned a plan involving coolers and cold winter weather. And you can still have phone service with no electricity (a corded phone with no display). And you can still have hot water and sanitize the things you need to, if you have some way to heat the water (camp stove, even a fireplace hearth). We lived without hot tap water all summer and it was no big deal.

I know a lot of people would not choose to turn off electricity, and it's very difficult to imagine doing it if you take electricity completely for granted, but we all have different priorities. I would do it if I felt I needed to. I imagine I would go without electricity for awhile before I'd sell my most prized possessions or leave nursing children to work outside the home, just as an example of how my priorities differ from some people's.

Most people in the world live without electricity. It's unusual here, but it is done, and probably by more people than you realize (mostly out of necessity, but some out of choice). People don't usually talk about it, so it's invisible.

gentlemango, I agree with all that you wrote. This is going to be more common in the coming months and years. People who have not thought realistically about how their family would manage without electricity (and other things many of us prefer to take for granted) might want to consider it. Actually I think all of us owe it to our families to consider this scenario and take whatever steps we need to take to assure ourselves that we could make it work if we had to. If we can wean ourselves of our dependence on electricity (and central heat, and running water, and perpetually stocked grocery stores, and disposable products, etc etc etc) we will be able to weather financial ups and downs more comfortable than if we did not.

baileyandmikey, please don't feel bad about bringing this up. Someone here will someday find themselves in your shoes and remember this discussion, and it will be helpful to them to know they are not alone. It is not something to be swept under the rug and ignored. Please don't feel that this is all about you - your OP triggered bigger thoughts and a much bigger conversation than your situation alone.

However it plays out, I will be thinking of you. And I agree with the advice to ask again on the Off the Grid board. People on that board are more likely to be sympathetic to...well...the idea of going off the electricity grid. Good luck.
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