The I Took My Remedy Tribe - Page 3

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by DoulaMary

So...do I send him to the homeopath??

Yes, it helped dh, with similar history and non-believer.


Pat

[nalo]

Awesome. Forgot to ask....anyone have any great sites or anything that I can send to him and my mom (who will probably help pay for it if she thinks there's a chance it will really help). I need info for them to read about this.

ETA: Here is the woman who comes highly recommended and here is the man I found via google - opinions, thoughts, suggestions, warnings???????

[avent]

Originally Posted by gilamama

wow, what a nice thread. blessing us all with progress in our healing.

out of curiosity, do you think it is important the connection you have with the homeopath?

I have seen 2 and with one i was given a remedy that she said was my constitutional and it didnt do much, so she increased the potency, still not much and the other doc gave me something and it just made me exhausted not functional (not good for the mom of 2 kids) and then he said take it again so i did and just had horrible headaches (i will maybe get a slightly annoying headache once a year - maybe less often). I just lost faith in them the second one gave us remedies that did nothing several times. the first one helped my dd but would yell at me occationally and try to convince me of stuff like where my kids should sleep and that fructose is a healthy sugar.

I havent been back to see anyone in a while b/c i just dont have the money, but i know homeopathy in amazing, very deep, true healing.

I don't know if "connection" is the right word, but you do need to be with someone who can properly perceive your case. This ability is a combination of experience, expertise, natural talent, and importantly, that they are not in the same state you are. It is often difficult for someone to perceive your state if they are in a similar one. In that sense it works better to have an "anti-connection." Sometimes a homeopath simply cannot see the case for what it is. It doesn't mean they are not talented or good at what they do, but it usually means you should find someone else.

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by DoulaMary

Awesome. Forgot to ask....anyone have any great sites or anything that I can send to him and my mom (who will probably help pay for it if she thinks there's a chance it will really help). I need info for them to read about this.

ETA: Here is the woman who comes highly recommended and here is the man I found via google - opinions, thoughts, suggestions, warnings???????

Both of those sites discuss the process, benefits and history of homeopathy.

I love the woman. I like the man (which is saying a lot, coming from me.)


Pat

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by avent

I don't know if "connection" is the right word, but you do need to be with someone who can properly perceive your case. This ability is a combination of experience, expertise, natural talent, and importantly, that they are not in the same state you are. It is often difficult for someone to perceive your state if they are in a similar one. In that sense it works better to have an "anti-connection." Sometimes a homeopath simply cannot see the case for what it is. It doesn't mean they are not talented or good at what they do, but it usually means you should find someone else.

I found this answer insightful. Thank you.

Pat

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by DoulaMary

ETA: Here is the woman who comes highly recommended and here is the man I found via google - opinions, thoughts, suggestions, warnings???????

hmmmm.... she teaches at Bastyr. I'm sure I don't have to give you my opinion about that. Of course, there's always a chance that homeopathy is the one area where they DON'T suck...

[nalo]

ahhh, bastyr...you are right. i am willing to overlook it i think given that she is not practicing as an ND, she is teaching homeopathy, not "medicine" and she does come so highly recommended. but...i am also kinda digging the man - i think it's because he came to homeopathy after experiencing the benefits with his child (and his website kicks ass )
dd's appt is with the woman but i may have to further think on the matter....

[changingseasons]

Your right- his website does rock. I'm all about the good web marketing.

You'll have to let me know if you see one of them. I'm still looking for someone for myself. We're doing a homeopathy intake visit with Dr. Doroshow on Monday for DD, so I'll post later about how that goes!

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by DoulaMary

dd's appt is with the woman but i may have to further think on the matter....

Did you read any of the articles on her site? They are in pdf files. Her energy is open, non-judgmental, inquisitive.


Pat

[nalo]

Yes, I read the "how i work" one, but that's it. It was very open, honest and disarming. I also really appreciated her acknowledgement that sometimes there is not a remedy to be found; that she may not be able to help every single person. Of course, this sucks...knowing we're about to shell out money and I DO expect her to help us but I appreciate when professionals don't claim more than they are capable of doing, yk?

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by changingseasons

hmmmm.... she teaches at Bastyr. I'm sure I don't have to give you my opinion about that. Of course, there's always a chance that homeopathy is the one area where they DON'T suck...

I'd vote the other way....the area they suck the most. lol. That's just me though.

[nalo]

Originally Posted by firefaery

I'd vote the other way....the area they suck the most. lol. That's just me though.

Hmmmm, why do you say that? Do you have specific knowledge about Bastyr or do you just think this based on the other experiences there that have been shared on this board?

[Panserbjorne]

Bastyr does not and never has been high on my list for turning out competent practitioners. They are accredited and all that but you'd be suprised at the number of students that fled because of this. They had to basically sell their soul to do it and what is taught there is a very mainstream approach to natural medicine.

I would also prefer homeopathic education from an institution that specializes in it. It is my very biased opinion that naturopathy and homeopathy don't co-exist all that well. You either believe you need biomedical intervention or you don't. Nutrition is part of homeopathy-always has been always will be (whether or not it's taught.) I prefer that a homeopathic practitioner not be schooled in alternative medicine because I think (again...my bias) that homeopathy used with nutrition is what is needed. I admit to being weirded out when homeopaths start testing for all kinds of different things that shouldn't have relevance to the remedy selection. I certainly dont' think everyone needs to agree with me by any stretch...but it's a big deal for me.

Naturopaths get a fraction of the training that homeopaths do in homeopathy. They also use it very differently. I prefer to find someone who has really committed. I'm not saying I'd NEVER see an ND that practices homeopathy....I'm just saying that would make me more skeptical and I would be asking ALOT of questions. I'd want to know how much education they got outside of their degree.

So for me....
first choice: a classical homeopath trained in homeopathy
second choice: a classical homeopath that is an MD
third choice: a classical homeopath that is an ND
last choice: a classical homeopath that is an ND from Bastyr.

This is of course a generalization and I'm not saying that ANYONE from Bastyr is incompetent. I'm just saying that I dont' look at those credentials and say, "hey GREAT! They went to Bastyr!" I just do the opposite. If you like this person though and the energy feels good that trumps all.

[mama_mich]

So I'm chiming in with my progress. Hard to call it progress when I feel the way I do! Am I really feeling? I do miss the euphoric days that occur right after you take your dose!! But it is feeling like this that led me to start this thread. The only person I have around here to talk about this to is my CH and well she has other clients!! One more note before I go into my progress... I have gone into this process with only very basic knowledge on the whole process. Being in the process now I realize I didn't know a thing! I now know that what ever I am dealing with now is going to keep chronic disease away for the rest of my life. I am ok with this process and happy I am going for it. Let me be healed!!


I FEEL LIKE CRAP!! Not like you're used people saying they feel like crap. I am deeply sad and yet completely numb at the same time. I am mentally and spiritually weak. And I say that feeling like a stone. I may feel weak but I am stronger than ever! Physically I'm well. I am holding a lot of my "stuff" in my neck instead of my jaw like I used to. I mean right where your head rest on your neck. The very end of my vertebrae. Writing it it's like the rest of my body is doing what it can to keep my head on!! This would be so much easier if I wasn't so much to 2 men. DS & DH. I am needed so badly and I need me and my time to heal and go through this.

I feel like I am being pulled by too many people and too many people's things. I am clouded and buried by thoughts ideas needs and wants that aren't even my own. To see this clearly is a blessing. But it's like I'm sitting back and watching my movie. This movie isn't done showing yet and I am not the type to sit back and watch. I am a doer with no drive. Which that isn't right either.... how do I describe this. I can see all of this clearly but it's like I'm paralyzed. I am stuck just watching this movie. Maybe I just need to let my movie play more often. I kind of feel like I don't know how to do anything anymore. I kinda feel like I'm not sure what is real. I'm not seeing things or hearing voices!! What I mean is that right now I don't know what my Truth is.

I have mentioned I started taking classes at the Montana center for psychic studies. Pretty much what I wrote above is exactly what we found on many levels of my aura. Thanks to writing this out here I've made the connection and realize it's not just happening and I'm not aware. I don't need a reading to tell me. I feel it and see it for myself!! That is nice. I need to spend more time on my homework!!

So is there a word or something homeopaths use to describe the in between? Not happy not depressed. Not tired not awake. Not present not vacant. Not entertained not bored. All of these yet feeling like a stone. You know I'm a libra and I've read my whole life how we struggle or strive for balance. Is this what most people feel? Is this balanced? I think I like teetering!! Gosh it's not even just a stone I kind of feel like a ghost too. OMG Not a stone not a ghost!! This is weird!! I am everything at once!! I wonder what my aura looks like right now!!

We had a follow up for DS today. I was pretty stoked to discuss what has been going on with him. As parents DH and I have been at a loss as to how to handle him and some situations. He has been acting like a real B---.(I can't stand this word and can't even believe it is the only word I can come up with to describe his behavior.) Throwing some major fits when he can't play with something or if I simply need to step away to go to the bathroom or cook diner etc.. She's not sure or its not clear to our CH if it's his remedy or the fact that we're weaning or simply him trying to figure out how to become his own. The whole thing just isn't clear. I am going to continue getting him off the pre-breakfeast nurse through the week and then I'm pretty sure we are just going cold turkey come Sunday. By cold turkey I mean we have already weaned any nursing btwn 12-5 am and he no longer has to nurse b4 bed. Sometimes we do sometimes we don't. Basically we are done nursing from 9pm-8 am. It is a huge thing for me too. A big process to go through. I think I am not doing any good for ds with the pushing and pulling I'm doing. The only reason I still am is because I feel bad not to and because it's sad to end it. I think it's really confusing and hard for him. I do not want to nurse anymore and I need to be strong and unselfish for the sanity of my son!! I just need to keep patient for the little guy. He is far more complex than we often realize and what skills or ability does he have to express himself? I think if listen a little better I will be able to understand more. I feel our nursing has become a crutch that needs to go so new ways of bonding and understanding can come forth. It's pretty huge! I did think I would nurse longer than this but I want me back and I need him to learn other ways of coping. Oh man feeling a little sad but confident in my decision at the same time.

I really can't wait to hear about some other people's experiences. Hopefully everyone finds a CH soon!! Not sure of her rates but mine will work over the phone or can do video chats.

OK happy healing!!

[nalo]

Originally Posted by firefaery

Bastyr does not and never has been high on my list for turning out competent practitioners. They are accredited and all that but you'd be suprised at the number of students that fled because of this. They had to basically sell their soul to do it and what is taught there is a very mainstream approach to natural medicine.

I would also prefer homeopathic education from an institution that specializes in it. It is my very biased opinion that naturopathy and homeopathy don't co-exist all that well. You either believe you need biomedical intervention or you don't. Nutrition is part of homeopathy-always has been always will be (whether or not it's taught.) I prefer that a homeopathic practitioner not be schooled in alternative medicine because I think (again...my bias) that homeopathy used with nutrition is what is needed. I admit to being weirded out when homeopaths start testing for all kinds of different things that shouldn't have relevance to the remedy selection. I certainly dont' think everyone needs to agree with me by any stretch...but it's a big deal for me.

Naturopaths get a fraction of the training that homeopaths do in homeopathy. They also use it very differently. I prefer to find someone who has really committed. I'm not saying I'd NEVER see an ND that practices homeopathy....I'm just saying that would make me more skeptical and I would be asking ALOT of questions. I'd want to know how much education they got outside of their degree.

So for me....
first choice: a classical homeopath trained in homeopathy
second choice: a classical homeopath that is an MD
third choice: a classical homeopath that is an ND
last choice: a classical homeopath that is an ND from Bastyr.

This is of course a generalization and I'm not saying that ANYONE from Bastyr is incompetent. I'm just saying that I dont' look at those credentials and say, "hey GREAT! They went to Bastyr!" I just do the opposite. If you like this person though and the energy feels good that trumps all.

A very interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing. Of course, in Seattle, it's pretty hard to find a non-Bastyr educated ND I think! But this really does make me think twice about going to see the woman and perhaps give the male practitioner a go, since he is not a doctor.

ETA: FF - do you think that this general opinion about the quality of Bastyr is shared throughout the ND community at large?

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by DoulaMary

A very interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing. Of course, in Seattle, it's pretty hard to find a non-Bastyr educated ND I think! But this really does make me think twice about going to see the woman and perhaps give the male practitioner a go, since he is not a doctor.

Oh man... I just started really looking over that guys website, and he had an open house last Sunday! damn. :

[nalo]

FF - would you mind sharing a few names of ND schools around the country that ARE considered stellar? Thx.

[Panserbjorne]

I'm not sure that's possible. Many ND's go to school and WANT to be mainstream. For them, Bastyr is a great institution. For me it's allopathy in hippie garb. Again, my own personal bias. Natural health to *me* doesn't mean swapping pharmaceuticals for nutraceuticals which is what ALL accredited institutions teach (there are only a handful of them.) There are unaccredited schools that have incredible integrity and aren't moving towards getting accredited because they don't want to have to buy into the mainstream "alternative" ideas of health. However someone who went to an unaccredited school doesnt' have to sit for boards, cant' order labs, and cannot prescribe which there is more and more of a push for ND's to do. BTW it's ND's pushing for the right to prescribe. They also cannot practice as licensed physicians. Bummer if you commit to 4-5 years of a doctoral program.

In terms of if that view of Bastyr is shared by the community at large? I guess that depends on who you ask. Again, nowadays a naturopathic education is just another way to become a doctor. For people who just want to become docs, no they would not share the view. For people who want to become healers? It's shared quite a bit on many different medical boards I have been on. Those people are caught between a rock and a hard place. When you go to learn about body/mind/soul and wholism it's tough to be focusing on nutraceuticals and pharmocology/pharmacognosy.

I wish I had a better answer, but I'm struggling with this quite a bit. I have a hard time figuring out where to send people. They so often come away from an ND with hundred's of dollars worth of supplements, and no real understanding of healing. A year later they are still not in a better place. It's also hard because docs have a tendency to get caught in a "thing." Everyone has the same issue. They have yeast. They have allergies. They have metal toxicity. I'll give you that all these issues are prevalent....but not many people are looking at WHY. Who cares if you are metal toxic if you dont' know what to do about it? Who cares if you have yeast if you don't know why it's there in the first place? Killing it won't do anything if you can't figure out the underlying cause because it's just going to come BACK. This is, of course, where energy medicine can shine.

Anyway....random diatribe. I dont' have a great answer. The long and short is that if you want to see a homeopath see someone who was trained specifically in homeopathy. I can forgive the ND (or MD) if they have committed themselves to the study of homeopathic medicine. If that's their passion they'll likely be good at it regardless of where they came from.

[Panserbjorne]

Mama_Mich....When I have healing crises or aggravations that is pretty much how I'd describe it. It's beautiful and wretched all at the same time. I can't say I have every experienced that "in between" almost twilighty stage that you are describing. It sounds intense! I usually have a big aggravation for a few days (sometimes right after taking the remedy, sometimes is can take longer depending on how quick-acting the remedy is) and then mellow right out. This is very interesting. I think you should really pay attention to it!

[Sepia]

Originally Posted by firefaery

It's also hard because docs have a tendency to get caught in a "thing." Everyone has the same issue. They have yeast. They have allergies. They have metal toxicity. Killing it won't do anything if you can't figure out the underlying cause because it's just going to come BACK. This is, of course, where energy medicine can shine.

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so true!!

(hi ff and pat--it's carrie from wwow )