Whew- so much to respond to! It's taken me an hour to get through this thread!
Originally Posted by MelW
Let's send out to the universe that there is a lovely group of women here that would like to see some new contraceptive methods...
, your holiday book/print is so amazing. I can't even imagine how one would begin to create something like that!Susannah
- when did you become a mod?Hillary, Gunter, and QoC
- I loved the pictures! I'm so happy your meeting was good and you all got to hang out in person! The play sound amazing- I hope you come to the DC area sometime!!
Originally Posted by lovetobemama
2. I am voting for the BIG V for our DH's. I feel like I have given my body enough for our fertility, birth control, pregnancy, labor, nursing, all of that....and I am tired of it being MY responsibility to keep us not pregnant. (and usually only having choices that have health risks, even if they are small, along with them). is it just me that finds it fishy that, other than a vasectomy or condom, almost all other forms of birth control fall on women!!?
- I'm glad your mom's out of the hospital! Hope she continues to do well.Kavita
- same for your dad! All the best to him.Kristina
- hooray on the upcoming work! I'm happy for you.
Wow- quite a Christmas/holiday discussion! Thanks for provoking so many interesting thoughts.
Originally Posted by Gunter
amy- so sorry that you are running into that. it's an unrealistic expectation for the family to seek faith stuff in the montessori school. i am always surprised when people sign up for something that has little to do with their faith and then look for it to meet their faith needs.
i cherish my faith as such a tender thing...when people who claim the same faith are harsh, it's hard to reconcile that we even share the same faith!
I really agree with what you said here. Couldn't say it any better myself so I'll just say
: I can't see how someone would think a secular place like a mont. school should be expected to adhere to just their personal beliefs at the expense of the majority of those attending!
We are sort of in the opposite situation here. There are very, very few Christians, pretty much NO evangelical or fundamentalist. There are very few people who are even open to the idea
of anything to do with Christianity whatsoever. It is pretty much a dirty word here. Nice environment for me as a Christian to be in
Although we don't share common faiths, I do have so many wonderful friends and an awesome parenting community. However, the situation with my friends is that they are incredibly incensed, offended, and angered (similar to the guy Amy is describing) that ANY mention of Christmas or Jesus be allowed in the schools. They consider it "indoctrination" if a nativity is visible, Christmas carols are sung, or there is any mention that Christmas has anything at all to do with Jesus.
SO- it just seems inconsistent to me- we teach our kids and freely discuss other religious traditions, holidays, visit other types of churches if my kids express interest. Yet people of other faiths- among my friends are Buddhists, humanists, Catholic/Jewish mixes- there can be NO mention of Christianity. Now if I did that in regard to another faith, I would be considered totally intolerant and narrow minded.
: It just doesn't make sense to me.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I strive to be respectful of others' traditions, open minded and inquisitive about their beliefs, and teach my kids the same, but it's not too often I see it happen in reverse. And I'm talking about IRL, not with you ladies here of course! But I know I'm living in a bubble here and most of the country doesn't have the type of demographics that we have here!
Oh- and Kavita- ITA with you as far as asking about Santa, etc- I would never
assume someone celebrated Christmas and start asking kids about it- people are always asking my kids about Santa and they are totally clueless- not that we're anti-santa but it's just not a part of how we celebrate. Even among people who do celebrate there is such a wide variety- I can't imagine saying anything other than "happy holidays" unless I knew for sure!
Originally Posted by Gunter
kavita- i agree with you about how the birth of jesus is way intriguing now that i am a mama and a doula! i find myself seeking more of the actual details about how the birth went down. glad to know i am not the only one out here who wonders how long mary was in active labor.
I know! I love thinking about this! Esp. now as a mother, having had a baby I always wonder what it was like for Mary. Who did she have around her? What was the birth really like? Did she like having shepherds come visit her postpartum or was she wishing they'd just leave and let her rest? Did they eventually give them a room at the inn once they saw she had the baby?
Originally Posted by Kavita
Because they have SNOW BALLS.
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself!
Last year the one good snow we had wasn't enough for a decent snow human of any sort, so we ended up with a very small snow dog. It was almost like a snow Yorkie, disintegrating into a chihuahua! LOL!
Originally Posted by flapjack
Gunter, it's partly tied up with my homesickness. Durham Cathedral is, well; old
and just awe-inspiring. (Jen, Mary, take a look, please. I'd love to take you there some time.)
- that is gorgeous!!
Also- hope your bc / fertility issues sort themselves out before too long and you find a solution