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post #81 of 112
DD loved the bouncy seat- and always had a BM if we turned the vibrator on (it was really funny to us for some reason). I loved the seat because I could put her in it and shower. She used the swing too, but not as much. We had a bumbo seat but she never really used it. Whenever we put her in it she would slide around too much, and just didn't like it.

Josie: That would make me mad too. This countries attitude towards birth is screwed up.
post #82 of 112
Josie, I hope it somehow gets to that HR woman's supervisor about the way she treated you about this issue. Did she even apologize for making a mistake?
post #83 of 112
Josie: That makes me mad too! I'm so glad that you midwife made that call. Good luck with the local union changes. I"m sorry this has to be so frustrating for you.

Good news on the Doula front...
I spoke with her on the phone today and it sounds great! We will meet over lunch next week for more details but I'm really excited. She is available when I need her and she used hypnobirthing for both of her births. She kept saying how great it was and how much it really does work. I would love to have someone with me who has used it and can help me with my cues. (and guide DH in helping me with my cues) I'm really looking forward to meeting with her next week! :

Last night I woke up yelling in pain because of a charlie horse in my calf. Man it was the worst. I got up to stretch and still feel tightness in my calf (I'm glad I have yoga tonight). Do I remember correctly about reading the suggestion of taking calcium/magnesium supplements before bed or was that for something else? Also, how far apart do you have to take iron (in my prenatal) and calcium?
post #84 of 112
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Originally Posted by clovermom View Post
You're right. Children should not be in the seated position until they can maintain it on their own. Forcing them into this position in the Bumbo interfers with the natural development of the curves in the spine. When they're a little wobbly a Boppy behind them will break any falls and before that they can play on their bellies which is great for their physical development.
I didn't know Bumbos were controversial. But we all hold our babies on our laps in a seated position from early on, don't we? Is that considered damaging, too?
post #85 of 112
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A mesh sling? How cool is that! Where'd you get such a brilliant thing?
I think it's called solarveil? I know that it is UV resistant and is supposed to be used in pools or at the beach. And well, I use it in the shower. LOL!

I have no idea where I got it--it was 4 years ago, but if you google solarveil sling, they may still make them!
post #86 of 112
I'm pretty sure Hotslings makes a mesh sling, too.
post #87 of 112
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Originally Posted by AKislandgirl View Post

Last night I woke up yelling in pain because of a charlie horse in my calf. Man it was the worst. I got up to stretch and still feel tightness in my calf (I'm glad I have yoga tonight). Do I remember correctly about reading the suggestion of taking calcium/magnesium supplements before bed or was that for something else? Also, how far apart do you have to take iron (in my prenatal) and calcium?
Congrats on the encouraging news with the doula!!!

About the cramps, be sure to stretch your toes up and back toward the top of your knee. Never point your toes or press them downward. That makes the cramp worse.

Magnesium, calcium, and potassium are all good for cramp prevention (big fan of magnesium especially, myself). Take them together at bedtime because they act well together as overall relaxants. Ideally vitamins should be taken in the morning as they tend to energize, and iron should be taken with vitamin C -- which is very energizing -- for better absorption. So take your iron in the morning if you can. Either way give ~ two hours if possible between calcium and iron supplements. I take iron first thing in the morning, with cranberry capsules and OJ (it's a great iron that doesn't bother my tummy at all). Then my prenatal. I take magnesium and calcium/potassium right before bed.
post #88 of 112
Man, I am so beat! Thankfully Eva's in bed, and dh and Axel are out playing basketball. I was running around all day- Axel had his first dentist appointment, groceries, post office... I haven't been sleeping that great, and no rest/naps today, so I'm ready to head to bed!

We've had a bouncy seat and a swing- and if I were to buy something it would be the swing. Both were given to us, so we didn't really chose. Bumbo's just seem weird to me- personally holding a child on your lap is totally different than propping them up.

Josie- glad you got that worked out, but how stupid! You're right to be mad about it.

oh, I can't even write anything more. Off to bed. My backup midwife comes tomorrow for a home visit, and she's building a strawbale house too, so I get to show her our system (offgrid) for her own interest, as well as for understanding it when she comes for the birth.
post #89 of 112
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I love thinking about it in days! I've got somewhere around 65-70 left, I think. I'm really not ready for Baby in terms of stuff and arrangements, but i think it's some weird mental block I'm having. I just have this fear that if i put the crib together and move it into our room, open the car seat box, that sort of thing, then something will happen to baby. Is that weird? I mean there's no reason to think anything bad will happen... I guess the more prepared I am, the more heartbroken I will be if, God forbid, something happened and I couldn't bring her home. I guess I need to get over that. My parents are coming to visit on Thursday, so maybe that will help. I dunno.

I guess all of the preparation will get done in time.
If you have a new car seat, I would open it asap to let it off-gas
post #90 of 112
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At my appointment today we discovered that baby boy is now head down, not exactly engaged but not floating either. Hooray!
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That's great!
post #92 of 112
I'm signed up for Cloth Diapering 101! And I had a better conversation with my best friend about my baby. She keeps pushing disposables, formula and an epidural on me. So tonight I told her that my dr recommend natural childbirthing and my friend was all, well... if that's what you want to do ok but for me, the pain was so unbearable that I was totally out of it until I had the epi. I feel bad because she always asks me how I'm doing and she's really excited that I'm pregnant but she's so not open to what I am interested in. I am ok that we disagree but hate that she keeps pushing me! It's a big reason why I don't talk to her more about my pregnancy.

I'm still worried that my baby will come out malnourished because I'm not "gaining enough" but my tummy is round and stretch marked. I forgot to ask my dr about the fundal height (I think that's what it's called?) but DH is trying to get me to relax about it. He's not worried but I am!

I still need a carseat and my parents are coming over this weekend to help us with the house. I've been searching craiglist for bathroom items, like tiles or glass blocks. I'm finding stuff but so far, not the right sizes. I have to cut myself off from buying diapers for the rest of December.

I'm starting to freak out about the reality of my baby being here and the diapers so far are the only things that help take my mind off the "realness" of the situation. Baby clothes freak me out. But diapers and trying to be a better crocheter make it not so scary for me. Part of me feels guilty that our current circumstances aren't so great but I just need to remind myself this phase is temporary!
post #93 of 112
Thanks ladies for your support. I'm having a much better day today. The women at work threw me a shower! It was so much fun opening little baby things (in green or yellow, of course) . I had written a little list of things that I needed for my new infant set up and I got a lot of those things: towels, onsies, burp cloths, receiving blankets, etc. I also got a lot of things I had never imagined needing. The one that makes me laugh is the VERY sophisticated video camera monitor--for our one bedroom apartment. It works up to 2000 feet away. How's that for attachment parenting, Mamas? But people were very kind, and I feel blessed.

My question is, though, I've read so much about plastics in clothing and dangerous chemicals in baby toys, what should I do about it? Do I ban the soft fleece and cozy 100% polyester sleepers? Do I get rid of the soft plastic teethers and hard plastic rattles? Should I call the companies of the items I have received? Am I a nut case for even considering it? I know this is baby #1 for me and I'm probably over reacting, but what would you more seasoned mamas do? To make matters worse, I'm completely alone in this. I don't have any friends who have researched pacifier brands to learn which ones use safe plastics so I feel a bit like a freak to begin with. Thanks!
post #94 of 112
JosieAK- I'm so happy that things are better. And a shower, how super nice!
As far as plastics go, I'm sure you'll get the whole range of replies, and you'll just have to make up your own mind anyway but here's what works for our family.
No pacifiers or plastic chewy-sucky things. Not plastic rattles or baby toys. We have wood or cloth versions of these things. My chewy-sucky baby loved his little flannel knot doll, wooden rattle toys, things like that for teething and sucking on.
We love those silly little "baby safe feeders" when they're a little older for ice cubes and apple slices and things like that, but they never chewed on the plastic handles.
I love polarfleece. I'm sure lots of people keep it away from their babies, but I really don't want to imagine a world without it. Really. It's cold where we live, and nothing beats it for lightweight warm layers. We have tons of wool, and things like mitties and hats and things that are likely to end up in the mouth are wool or silk, but I love a fleece blanket wrapped around in the stroller or car seat, fleece buntings, little fleece shirts and leggings, fleece lined booties and vests.
I make up the baby's day-sleeping nest with flannel and wool layers, and I replaced the cradle mattress with one I made myself out of wool batting and felted wool covers, with flannel sheets. I didn't trust the store mattress to not be toxic.
That's pretty much our palstics policy- no plastic toys or chewies, yes plastic utilitarian items.
post #95 of 112
So, my sore throat from the other day turned into a full fledged flu. Horrible timing, coming during finals week at school! It's been horrible, because I really needed to be at home in bed all day yesterday like my husband was, but I had two finals and those can't be made up so I had no option of missing it. I commute to school from about half an hour away, so I had to get up super early and drive all the way there then drive all the way back home.
I did end up running a fever Wednesday night. Our thermometer was on the fritz, so I'm not sure how high it got. I got ahold of a nurse at my midwife's office yesterday morning who told me Tylenol would be okay to take and I really needed to make sure to stay on top of the fever, but I've been avoiding it as much as possible. I broke down and took enough to get me through my finals yesterday, but I'm hoping to make it through the day today without having to take any... which means missing another day of work probably.
DH is feeling much better and went back to work today. He got to lay on the couch and sleep for a day and a half while I had to work on Wednesday night and go to school yesterday. I fully believe that's the only reason I'm not feeling better by now, I've had to push myself more than I wanted to while sick. So, today I'm on the couch resting the entire day. I really don't want to be fighting this all weekend, we have too much to get done!

I just feel so bad for my little one in there. I don't know what it's like for her in there when I'm feeling like crap, but I just don't feel like I can take good care of her when I'm barely able to take care of myself...
post #96 of 112
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No pacifiers or plastic chewy-sucky things. Not plastic rattles or baby toys. We have wood or cloth versions of these things. My chewy-sucky baby loved his little flannel knot doll, wooden rattle toys, things like that for teething and sucking on. <snip>

I love polarfleece. I'm sure lots of people keep it away from their babies, but I really don't want to imagine a world without it. Really. It's cold where we live, and nothing beats it for lightweight warm layers.
We do some plastic toys, but I don't like the baby to chew on them too much. Truth is, wooden toys can be just as dangerous (some have been found to contain lead in the paint) depending on how they are finished. I would say if you can natural, oil-finished wooden toys, that would be preferable.

As fas polyester fleece, ugg, I can't stand the way it feels. We avoid it. I would probably be okay with is if someone bought us an outfit for the baby that included a fleece jacket, but I probably wouldn't buy that myself. I absolutely positively WILL NOT put the baby in one of those 100% polyester sleepers or rompers. My older boys don't wear polyester pajamas either.

But you might find you have different preferences.
post #97 of 112
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Originally Posted by Mal85 View Post
So, my sore throat from the other day turned into a full fledged flu. Horrible timing, coming during finals week at school!
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I just feel so bad for my little one in there. I don't know what it's like for her in there when I'm feeling like crap, but I just don't feel like I can take good care of her when I'm barely able to take care of myself...
Aw, I hope you feel better! Don't worry about baby, she'll be fine-- your body will actually take care of her first! Consider taking a bunch of vitamin C and some cod liver oil (fighting off viruses uses up Vitamin A). And try to relax! The stress hormones WILL affect her, but only if you're really stressed out. (Don't stress out about that!)
post #98 of 112
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Originally Posted by JosieAK View Post

My question is, though, I've read so much about plastics in clothing and dangerous chemicals in baby toys, what should I do about it? Do I ban the soft fleece and cozy 100% polyester sleepers? Do I get rid of the soft plastic teethers and hard plastic rattles? Should I call the companies of the items I have received? Am I a nut case for even considering it? I know this is baby #1 for me and I'm probably over reacting, but what would you more seasoned mamas do? To make matters worse, I'm completely alone in this. I don't have any friends who have researched pacifier brands to learn which ones use safe plastics so I feel a bit like a freak to begin with. Thanks!
Don't worry about PJs and flame retardant chems until you're looking at 9-12 month size. Then stick with cotton snug-fitting PJs or fleece playclothes, not sleepwear. I'm fine with polyester fleece playwear (it's recycled it's in my diapers -- I'm okay with it) prior to the mobility age -- at that age (9-12 months, and 12+ months) they add chemicals to the fibers prior to weaving the fabric even, for designated sleepwear. The chemicals are linked to endocrine issues, and other problems. I know some people dislike polyfleece because it's not a natural fiber and that's fine. But not all polyfleece is the same. While it is all flame resistant (it melts instead of flaming up), not all is treated with flame retardant chemicals. And for me, that's the distinction in terms of my comfort level.

But relying on 100% cotton sleepwear isn't a guarantee either. Some manufacturers (like LL Bean) have started adding a variation of the retardant chems to cotton PJs too.

Hanna Andersson is a great retailer for organic cotton PJs (they are slightly more snug-fitting now than they used to be but still great products -- and they're having a sale right now, matter of fact!). The Children's Place has good cotton footie PJs -- not organic, but affordable. They nearly always have some on clearance over at Amazon. You can always go with wool (naturally flame resistant) but it's expensive. We stick with layering.

They also add flame retardant chems to things like carseat covers. Washing in soap and fabric softener can help break down the chems slightly (and won't hurt the cover, as long as you're washing it in cold -- don't want to shrink it!), but it's no guarantee that it is actually removing the chems. Still, it doesn't hurt. Hang to dry.

Avoid things like vinyl mattress covers. These off-gas. Use wool blankets (cheap Army/Navy, cut to size, or wool puddle pads) as mattress protectors instead. Get an organic crib mattress if you can afford it, and baby will be sleeping in crib.

Look at the ingredients in baby products. Keep in mind that any soap is drying to baby's sensitive skin and scalp. Plain water works great for bathing. Look at alternatives to petroleum-based products.

Check these sites for potential hazards with toys:

http://www.environmentcalifornia.org...pers_Guide.pdf
http://www.pollutioninpeople.org/saf.../kids-products
http://www.zrecommends.com/
http://www.zrecsguide.com/
http://www.truceteachers.org/toyactionguide.html
http://www.healthytoys.org/product.askforinfo.php

For pacifiers:
http://www.zrecsguide.com/products/c...avent/380/336/ Click the jump to to scroll to next brand in list.


There are more links out there. PM me if that's not enough.

Check out some natural toy makers and distributors, like Oompa, Nova Natural, Magic Cabin, etc. You can search through LwaB and Toddler forums for more retailers and manufacturers. Stick with European-designed toys, as they have to adhere to much stricter and safer regulations than US-designed toys.

Avoid plastics other than 1, 2 and 5.

Stick to organic foods once baby's eating solids. Delay solids until at least 6 months (can trigger food allergies/sensitivities if introduced before gut is mature enough to handle the solid particles). Breastfeed! Breastfeed! Breastfeed!

There's lots and lots and lots more, but it is very possible to avoid a good deal of hazardous and chemical influences. Not possible to avoid all in most cases (the padding in carseats offgas, for instance -- which is why it's important to let them air out as much as possible before use, as PP pointed out). But minimizing is key, and very doable.
post #99 of 112
So sorry you're sick, Mal! That's the worst. I had the flu in my 37th week last time, and was in bed for five days. I hope your finals go well and that afterward you are able to totally relax.

Plastics: my big thing is "Made in China." Doesn't matter whether it's plastic or wood, I'd rather have something made in Europe, the U.S. or Canada, where they have decent dafety standards and are more likely to stick to them. I do allow plastic chewies - especially teethers, we couldn't survive without that triangle that goes in the freezer - but I avoid Plastic #7 and PVC like the plague. In fact I am arguing with my MW right now because she wants me to get a PVC shower curtain liner for my bed - she is wrong, "airing those out" doesn't work.

As for fleece pajamas, I don't mind them except that I find them to be so sweaty because they don't breathe at all. Babies are much warmer than we give them credit for, they really don't need to be bundled up as much as is traditional, and they will sleep badly if they are too hot. If you are cosleeping, fleece will almost definitely be too hot because of the shared body heat. But if your home is cold and the baby is sleeping on their own, fleece is not a bad option. Its big advantage is that it is not treated with that fire-retardant chemical, like cotton pj's are. I like fleece a lot for going outside, it really blocks the wind. I wish I could find flannel pj's though.

My fantasy is that someone will buy me one of those cashmere baby outfits as a luxe gift. They're dreamy!
post #100 of 112
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In fact I am arguing with my MW right now because she wants me to get a PVC shower curtain liner for my bed - she is wrong, "airing those out" doesn't work.
Target recently started selling PVC-free shower curtain liners. It's what's in our bathroom, and I'm picking up an extra one to have on hand just in case we're snowed in when I go into labor.
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