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post #21 of 36
I am in the process of moving from a 2200sqf house to a 500 sqf apt. (we have been there almost 2 months but are going west-back to the house- to get rid of most of what we own in 3 weeks) I love LOVE love it! :
post #22 of 36
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ok I'm taking charge of my own thread, please no more negative comments! I can see we're going down a bad rabbit trail here. I was simply talking to those who shared my views, I was not judging those who didn't. Although posing the question, is it worth it? is fine for those with big houses to answer that question, but judgment on either side is not what I posted this for.

Let's stay positive now :
post #23 of 36
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oops nevermind
post #24 of 36
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Originally Posted by thismama View Post
. All I'm saying is that in the Simplifying forum of a Natural Family Living community, I would expect to see different values expressed. That's all!
Actually, this subforum is called "decluttering, organizing & simplifying". No matter the size of one's home, these can apply. Who said anyone who is interested in decluttering, organizing or simplifying would not choose a "ginormous" house?
post #25 of 36
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Actually, this subforum is called "decluttering, organizing & simplifying". No matter the size of one's home, these can apply. Who said anyone who is interested in decluttering, organizing or simplifying would not choose a "ginormous" house?
Nobody said that. I said I was surprised, on this forum, is all. Whatevs.
post #26 of 36
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Actually, this subforum is called "decluttering, organizing & simplifying". No matter the size of one's home, these can apply. Who said anyone who is interested in decluttering, organizing or simplifying would not choose a "ginormous" house?
Thank you for posting this!

Who gets to decide what a "ginormous" home is? Size is relative, too. I think a 1000 sq ft house for 5 people is ridiculously small, but it's apparantly perfect for some. And not all large homes are resource wasters. A poorly insulated smaller home can be more inefficient than a well built larger home. Same goes for the people living in the home; we are more careful about resources in our 2800 sq ft home than some people I know who live in a 680 sq ft apartment.

OP- I sympathize with your desire to have less stuff crowding around you. I do think that it can happen no matter what the size of your house is, though.
post #27 of 36
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As a child growing up in a family of 5, I can tell you that it was not ridiculously small to be living in the apartment we did (it was maybe 600-800 sf?). I knew nothing else and loved it there.
post #28 of 36
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As a child growing up in a family of 5, I can tell you that it was not ridiculously small to be living in the apartment we did (it was maybe 600-800 sf?). I knew nothing else and loved it there.
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We are 4 people, soon to be 5, in a 650 square foot apartment, and I don't find it crowded or too small... we aren't even looking at moving for at least a couple of years. Once this new baby is ready for his/her own room we'll probably look for something a bit bigger, but we'd really only need one more bedroom so we'd be looking for something in the 8-900 square foot range. Dh and I have one bedroom, with a toddler bed also in it, and the boys now share the other bedroom. Neither of us has ever had any desire for a big house (or even an average sized one, really).

It's obviously a very individual thing, and I agree that any size of house/apartment can be cluttered! I think it is important to keep in mind too that the VAST majority of the world's population lives in much smaller spaces than we think are necessary here.
post #29 of 36
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I think it is important to keep in mind too that the VAST majority of the world's population lives in much smaller spaces than we think are necessary here.
I often think about this. And I think about why it's a struggle for our family of 4 to live in 1000 sf. One is more stuff obviously. Another issue, though, is that culturally we really value privacy and personal space and many of us grew up sleeping alone in a room for years. I find it frustrating that dh cannot cope with a family bedroom because it's so practical to just cram us all into one bedroom, leaving other rooms available for other purposes. But he has "sleep issues" and I wonder if people from other cultures just learn to sleep with the sleeping sounds of others? Also, the typical North American man wants to retreat into his "cave" as part of his self-care. We don't have room for a "cave", and I sometimes wonder if that add to the strain in our household. Yet obviously people who grow up living in higher densities must not have that need. Another thing to keep in mind is that people who live in higher density countries may not use our homes in the same way that we do. Many people do not cook at all but almost exclusively eat inexpensive "street food" or in cafeteria-style restaurants. Some people live in climates and places where it's realistic to do a lot of living outdoors. I do think it's hard for people to adjust to living in ways other than how they themselves were raised, even knowing that it's possible.
post #30 of 36
We moved the eight of us from a 3000 sqft home to a 1400 sqft home. It is MUCH easier/quicker to clean and MUCH, MUCH less expensive to run. It is too small, we are in the process of finishing the basement as living space, but it sure is nice to spend two hours cleaning rather than two days!
post #31 of 36
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Originally Posted by Mama2Xander View Post

I think it is important to keep in mind too that the VAST majority of the world's population lives in much smaller spaces than we think are necessary here.
Most people I know who live in average or larger-than-average homes recognize that these homes are not necessary. Though, yes, I do know a few people who make comments about "needing" this or that, such as a second (or third) bathroom, or a certain number of bedrooms equal to the number of children they have, etc.
post #32 of 36
it's funny but I've typed up long responses to this thread twice now (once yesterday and then again today), and both times I lost them when trying to submit. : Probably for the better then and I'll take it as a sign to keep my mouth shut.

I am curious though as to what is considered an environmentally accpetable amount of living space if you have a large family. We plan on one to two more for a total of 8 people. If 1200 sq ft is acceptable for a family of 3 or 4 can I have 2500-3000 sq. ft. for twice as many? Of course it would be possible to live on-top of each other in a tiny place with lots of kids. My MIL was just here visiting and reminded me that her parents had 8 children in a small 2 bedroom house. She wan't exactly recalling it fondly, though.
post #33 of 36
I don't think there is any hard and fast rule, and that it depends on lifestyle choices, whether you have outdoor space, whether you can walk to town or do you have to drive everywhere and your house is the only place your family can stretch out and have adventures, etc etc.
post #34 of 36
I think I might like a slightly bigger house, but I'd like to own fewer things. It would be nice not to have to shift the entire living room around in order to put up the xmas tree....

Decluttering is inching up to number one on my list of New Year's resolutions.
post #35 of 36
We have close to 1600 sqft. It is plenty for our family of 7 (4 bedrooms, 1 bath). The only thing I wish it had is more than 1 bathroom, well and maybe a slightly larger dining room. But it is not to bad. DS's 9 and 11 share. DS's 13 and 3 will share if 3 year old ever moves out of my room. DD 4 has her own room, but it is also the playroom area.

I grew up in HUGE houses and prefer my smaller one. But to each there own because the family that occupied this house before us has 3 children and it was to small for them and they upgraded to a larger house. But for me this works very well.
post #36 of 36
I'd like to move to a smaller house again. We moved from the city to the burbs and nearly 5 years later I still miss my quaint, small-ish old house and the new "beautiful" big house just doesn't feel like home. sigh. I thought eventually we'd grow into it and yes we have more stuff (and a new family member) since we moved, but still it's just not feeling like our "home". At any rate, OP, I can certainly relate.
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