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WHAT am I going to do with them?!  

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"They" are 4 and will be 2 in January. These two children, I am convinced, hold a world record for number of days in a row in which they do nothing but FIGHT and WHINE. Even better when they can combine fighting and whining.

It is winter. I hate winter. It is below zero or close to it most days now with wind chill. We can't go outside.

"They" have a newborn brother too. He, of course, takes a lot of time and attention lately.

I have started an evening routine and it seems to help. 4 yr old DS attends preschool 4 mornings a week, which is a lifesaver because I can do things with the baby and ONE of the older two.

The last time I took the older 2 to the grocery store, DD pulled DS's hair and made him cry in the car cart.

they do a lot of things that hurt each other now too. And DS didn't used to do things back but now he has started to.
He does not care that it hurts his sister, in fact, that seems to be the intended goal because she has hurt him.

And of course like I said there is the newborn. I can't possibly be everywhere at once stopping everything before it starts.

the 'duh' in this is of course I don't want to spank them for hurting each other. DD seems too young to 'get' time-out. I tried it with DS but well, he didn't SAY it but his actions--he seemed really angry like he thought DD was getting off while he was in trouble. (I can see why.)

What do I do? they can't just continue to do this. They know what they are doing. I've had the whole 'that hurts and we don't hurt people' talk.....
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I'm answering myself LOL I came up with a brainstorm today. Tonight 4 yr old DS, me, and Grandma had an impromptu conference, totally an unplanned thing. (well SOMETHING needed to happen after a huge screaming contest on the part of the kids. DS cut the blinds in my mom's room too.) Out of that came a family rule list. 4 rules that apply to everyone. Adults and children.

We respect each other. no name-calling. no use of words like 'shut up' You respond if someone asks you to do something. (like for example I might say I'm nursing the baby right now but in 2 minutes.... As opposed to not saying anything.)

We do not hurt people. (complete with DS's hand traced with a big 'no' slash through it to represent no hitting.)

We respect things. (We do not play with things that are not toys. Like the lampshade, the window blinds, the phone.)

Inside voices. (the yelling and screaming, fun and otherwise has just gotten out of control.)

And I think I want to add "We work together." As I've really been trying to garner cooperation in things like helping pick up their toys.

I've made an actual written and illustrated list. DS and I decided we needed something to help *everyone* remember. And I've decided it should be a whole-family adults and kids thing, I totally phrased everything that way to ds.
I was an only and I remember feeling like it was my parents against me, telling me *I* had to change all these things about *my* actions.

In reality in my house it is everyone. The kids are "fun" shouting, the adults yell at them to stop. And then everybody wonders why our ears and heads hurt.....
and there are other examples.

I have to say since the last few days of making massive use of my DVR too life just seems more peaceful. lots of frustration happens when "I can't even watch ONE dang TV show without..." (and I have to say I LOVE zapping commercials)
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