It just dawned on me

[MountainMamaGC]

how ludicrous it is for a doctor to recommend a baby to get 8 different vaccines at one time and not even think about it. Yet they would think twice before prescribing 8 drugs at one time to such a young child. I am getting sick thinking about how the majority relies on these people to do the thinking for them.

[jakesmama]

Good point!
And ditto about relying on docs.

[kiara7]

Yep.

Around this time of the year, my dh gets bad coughs (allergies, etc.). He (30 yrs. old) has to literally beg the doc to give him a script for one cough syrup that works (codeine syrup, they can see in his chart he comes in once a year, not every week) so that he can go to work and not scare everyone s$#@less.

But my 5 mo. baby? Any doc would shoot him up with all the crap plus the catch up in one day I'm sure. And then they'll tell me they're doing me a favor.

[MountainMamaGC]

I was also thinking about one of the other aruments they have: The vaxes are only a fraction of the pathogens they encounter on a day.

Well doctor if my baby licks the bottom of my shoe, chances are she'll be fine. If i rinsed the germs off my shoe and injected into her chances are she would have a very bad reaction and get very sick. Its so not the same thing.

[not_telling]

Originally Posted by Lydiah

I was also thinking about one of the other aruments they have: The vaxes are only a fraction of the pathogens they encounter on a day.

Well doctor if my baby licks the bottom of my shoe, chances are she'll be fine. If i rinsed the germs off my shoe and injected into her chances are she would have a very bad reaction and get very sick. Its so not the same thing.

This is why I get so annoyed about the "your breastmilk has aluminum in it" argument for why it's ok that some vaccines have tons of aluminum. Studies do show the gut is great at preventing much aluminum absorption...but my baby's thigh muscle is not a stomach!

[ann_of_loxley]

I am baffled about many things everyday! - that is one of them! lol

[cloverd]

Good points, mums. I tell our doctor that until they are tested to the same standards as other medications we won't be using them.

[cjuniverse]

Ugh. Never ceases to astound me either.

Vaccines, and those who push them, just suck. It doesn't make a shred of sense.

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by not_telling

This is why I get so annoyed about the "your breastmilk has aluminum in it" argument for why it's ok that some vaccines have tons of aluminum. Studies do show the gut is great at preventing much aluminum absorption...but my baby's thigh muscle is not a stomach!

They also say that thermisol in vaxes leaves the body faster than the mercury in fish. Well just cause something leaves the body fast does not mean it doesn't do damage. Castor oil leaves my body lightening fast, but it also makes me sicker than sick and dehydrated.

The pharma cos and those that support them make these arguments and people don't think for themselves. If they just thought for 2 seconds about it they would realize the stupidity of the arguments.

[rredhead]

When I found out the first vaxes were at 2 months (I didn't know about Hep B then), I said, "Wait a minute, they make you wait until 12 months to try cow's milk, and you have to try one food at a time before that, but they'll put 8 diseases into an infant?"
This past year, the FDA pulled cough medicines made for babies and toddlers, but vaccines are perfectly safe.
What-ever.

[Ophelia]

Originally Posted by Full Heart

They also say that thermisol in vaxes leaves the body faster than the mercury in fish.

I know which study you are talking about, and there are serious flaws with it, and the author had conflicts of interest. I'm sure I have a link about it somewhere.

[In Exile]

That's right people, when you're pregnant-you must make sure to avpoid fish like the plague. Same goes for that darn deli meet and that yummy cheese. But as soon as you kiddo is out- let's pump 'em up with 5-8 different disease, heavy metals and preservatives at the same time. Disease you would never encounter together in that way.

Where on earth you dou contract Tetanus, Polio and Diphteria in the same DAY???

Don't look for logic, there's none. Just a lot of money and reputation at stake. The fact that the health of your child is also at stake- doesn't matter.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by Lydiah

Well doctor if my baby licks the bottom of my shoe, chances are she'll be fine. If i rinsed the germs off my shoe and injected into her chances are she would have a very bad reaction and get very sick.

Would you believe even injecting those germs into the blood stream would not be a big problem. According to at least one study from Switzerland, it would be no problem at all and of course confers no immunity either.

The side effects of vaccines and a 'show' of immunity is provoked by the adjuvants. (AND THEY KNOW THAT.)

That is also why when some vaccines are tested against a placebo, the placebo is everything that is in the vaccine minus the germ. They show that the placebo and the shot with the germ have the same results, therefor the vaccine is safe. See how criminal that is?

:

Originally Posted by In Exile

Don't look for logic, there's none. Just a lot of money and reputation at stake. The fact that the health of your child is also at stake- doesn't matter.

Exactly. It's about money and power and....

Watch the movie ZeitgeistAddendum.

[Ophelia]

Originally Posted by In Exile

That's right people, when you're pregnant-you must make sure to avpoid fish like the plague.

Actually, according to this article the FDA may be changing their tune in that regard:

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...ark-tells.html

most people should eat more fish, even if it contains mercury.

[PenelopeJune]

Yeah. Only give your kid one food a day for days and watch for reactions. You know how deadly green beans can be. But feel free to load your kid up with Hep B, rotavirus, mercury, formaldahyde, and all other manners of crap.

[In Exile]

Originally Posted by Ophelia

Actually, according to this article the FDA may be changing their tune in that regard:

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...ark-tells.html

Never fails to impress me how even bad stuff IS good when that somehow benefits somebody's wallet.

Now even mercury loaded fish isn't THAT bat anymore-I guess compared to 5 vaxes at once the fish really does look better.

[Fyrestorm]

Well, since they 'removed' mercury from most vaccines, they need to make sure they get enough into enough babies somehow in order to keep the neurological issues on the rise so they can say "see it wasn't the vaccines"

[GutInstinct]

Good point!

Another thing that baffles me are "by the book" vaxing moms who argue that selectively vaxing (or not vaxing) is dangerous. They would NEVER eat soft cheese, deli meat, or drink a sip of wine while pregnant. But when the baby is 2 months old, let's shoot 'em full of chemicals. Ay yi yi...

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by Ophelia

Actually, according to this article the FDA may be changing their tune in that regard:

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.c...ark-tells.html

So in 5 years we went from Fish is bad to Fish is really good despite what is in it. Like Eggs went from they are bad to you really need eggs. And so on and so forth. Basically saying they have no idea what they speak of. This is what they know now but it might change! But they expect us to trust what is in vaccines to do no harm and benefit us? Are then insane? They can't even tell us what foods we should eat!

[just_lily]

Considering how little is understood about the long term affects of vaccines, and that some are so new we don't even know how long they will last, ask yourself....

... why would I ever enroll my healthy infant into 10+ drug studies at one time?

Because really, that is what they are asking us to do with our kids.