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post #21 of 32
So, I was sitting and trying to read yesterday while my boys were playing a video game (didn't happen quite as I liked as they kept needing assistance, but I tried ). I was reading Simply Pray by Erik Walker Wikstrom, which is an inspirational book in and of itself. But, something really struck me as I was reading in regards to this thread. He was talking about scheduling time to pray during the day as an appointment with God - instead of putting "prayer time" on the calendar/day planner, that if it is written as an appointment with God then one might be more likely to follow through. Then, he said to look at your life *as it is right now* and find time to fit in prayer. (By the way, substitute whatever spiritual practice you wish to incorporate for prayer if wanted.) He said if you try to fit prayer into your life as you want it to be, it won't happen; rather you need to be realistic and look at your every day obligations and see where you can fit your desired practice in that framework. For me, that was very important because I often get caught up in the ... "I wish I did x, y, and z in my days instead of doing a, b, and c." So, reading that it's okay to keep things as they are now and seeing where I might be able to carve some time within my normal day for prayer really helped. I started realizing that maybe in the afternoon when the boys are enjoying some TV time I might be able to slip away into my room for even just 10-15 minutes.

But what I think I liked even better was when he began to speak of spiritual practice/discipline as being like the act of meditation. He said that the real act of meditation was one of getting distracted by life, noticing the distraction, and choosing to return to meditation - without recrimination and without condemnation. That you just gentle recognize when you have become distracted by life and you make a decision to return to your practice. It's been busy around here, but I wanted to share that.
post #22 of 32
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He was talking about scheduling time to pray during the day as an appointment with God - instead of putting "prayer time" on the calendar/day planner, that if it is written as an appointment with God then one might be more likely to follow through. Then, he said to look at your life *as it is right now* and find time to fit in prayer. (By the way, substitute whatever spiritual practice you wish to incorporate for prayer if wanted.) He said if you try to fit prayer into your life as you want it to be, it won't happen; rather you need to be realistic and look at your every day obligations and see where you can fit your desired practice in that framework.
Awesome, thank you for sharing this. I am going to start this on the December 27th which is the New Moon-- making an "appointment" to devote some special focused time to God every day.

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But what I think I liked even better was when he began to speak of spiritual practice/discipline as being like the act of meditation. He said that the real act of meditation was one of getting distracted by life, noticing the distraction, and choosing to return to meditation - without recrimination and without condemnation. That you just gentle recognize when you have become distracted by life and you make a decision to return to your practice.
Wow. That is so profound. I am going to digest that today.

I love you MLW!!!!
post #23 of 32
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Awesome, thank you for sharing this. I am going to start this on the December 27th which is the New Moon-- making an "appointment" to devote some special focused time to God every day.



Wow. That is so profound. I am going to digest that today.

I love you MLW!!!!
Aww ... thanks! I'm glad what I was reading is able to resonate with you as well.
post #24 of 32
Subbing - this is definitely something I keep trying to do...
post #25 of 32
Subbing - I believe deeply in God (I'm Christian) but I feel like I am lazy and do not spend enough time with God. I am interested in adding spiritual disciplines to my life.
post #26 of 32
When i was 10 or 11 i hear Vivekananda say 'see the god in others' (dont remember the exact words). changed my life. then i read about thich nhat hanh's mindfulness - again changed my life. then i read 'eat, pray, love' and about hating singing that hated hymn to her nephew. again changed my life. then i heard about pema chodron's 'abandon hope' again changed my life.

there are two parts to my spiritual practise. one is spiritual discipline that you talk about - which i call formal rituals. i struggle with this deeply too - not because of lack of time. but just my desire when the time comes. i am now at the place where i am just trying to just 'do' it.

the other is me. in a constant mode of 'chatting' with god. what are you thinking about when you are not focused on anything? for me i am constantly chatting with 'my best buddy'. when my dd was born - it was tough times. she was/is a hard child and there were other stresses. BUT when i saw her i saw god in her. i saw her as gods gift to me. His love for me. so even though it was tough, a part of me never found it tough. as a baby she looked v. much like baby krishna. many of my friends thought so too so she got a lot of krishna stuff when she was still crawling. mind you we all grew up christian. parenting to me - esp. when dd was a baby - was fully a form of worship.

every single thing i do is a worship to god. when i have those profound moments that reduces me to tears i thank god. when the light stays green so i can make the series of green and not be late i thank god. when i miss the bus i express my disappointment to god. when i am mad and angry i express my frustration to him. when i have an 'unbelievable' moment its a 'can you believe that...' conversation.

so in a sense i spend my whole waking moments with god. but when it comes to silence i baulk. i get up at 4 am to do it. now its become such a habit that i dont need the alarm. and yet i dont do it. its a kind of i want to do it and i dont wnat to do it. i will say i am a live in your head kinda person. all my hobbies are 'head' hobbies. not craft. and that is my challenge to find the silence. to still my mind and meditate.

certain rituals help me though. having a picture of the navina from my childhood. lighting candles. it is easy for me to say my prayers. BUT meditate THAT is my struggle.

now i will say my 'god' has no religion. i do go to a fellowship and yet a lot of my rituals are taken from many other faiths that really help me get in touch with my faith. not to spout off prayers but to really feel it and sometimes its so moving it brings tears to my eyes.
post #27 of 32
So, how is everyone doing now?

I still find I am not good at praying in my usual way right now, and I think it's because my ADD/Asperger's traits really get bad during pregnancy. It's almost impossible for me to focus on praying in the usual way. So what I am doing instead is journaling to God-- my prayers to God but I wrote them so that I can focus better. I focus just fine when I am writing on the computer, any other way and I lose my train of thought so easily. And also journaling to myself. I do these on the computer, and keep my two files open during the day. One dialogue with myself, and one with God. I like this so far, and I think it will be nice someday to look back and see what I was thinking about and where I was at this time.

I am also reading my daily affirmations, many of which are spiritual in nature. I use my self-hypnosis prompts to allow my mind ot more fully accept and internailze the positive affirmations.

So these are my baby steps I am taking for now.
post #28 of 32
How did everyone do with their goals?
post #29 of 32
Great thread, I'm so glad it got bumped back up!

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Discipline is the right word! That is what I need to focus more on. Doing all those things that I know bring me peace in my heart, not letting the things of the world get in the way. Putting first things first. It DOES take discipline, and added maturity to not give in to the will of the flesh.
So true! I have been taking baby steps in this very area, simply trying to say a rosary in the morning because I feel like it really puts me in a rather zen place for the rest of the day.

How many times have I done this? About 4 times this month. Go me .

I really need to try harder.
post #30 of 32
I'm an Orthodox Christian, and Orthodoxy has very clearly defined spiritual disciplines for everyone - laity and monastics. Your parish gives out calendars at the beginning of the year (these are commercially available) with all the fast days (nearly every Wednesday and Friday, long fasts before Pascha/Easter and Christmas, and two other shorter fasts), great feasts, the daily Scripture readings, etc. You know what you're supposed to abstain (fast) from food-wise traditionally (we essentially go vegan), although the specific details are between you and your spiritual father (usually your parish priest). Fasting goes together with prayer and almsgiving (see the Sermon on the Mount in St. Matthew's Gospel).

There are prayer books with morning/evening/before meals/before & after Communion prayers. Of course, if you have small children or lots of family responsibilities, your prayers will possibly be shorter than someone who has more available time. Spiritual reading, each day if possible, at least the daily appointed Scripture readings, more if you have time, especially during Lent.

Vespers/Vigil on Saturday evening, Divine Liturgy on Sunday morning, and Liturgy (or at least Vespers the night before, depending on work/family responsibilities) on the 12 Great Feasts, as well as attendance at as many services during Lent as possible.

You follow the spiritual disciplines. Some folks think it's "you're told what to do," but I have to tell you it's very freeing. I've got Protestant friends who I've seen tie themselves in knots about "is it God's will for me to fast?" and then try to work out the details. I have Catholic coworkers who absolutely agonize over what to give up for Lent. We don't "give anything up" because we've already given up so much food-wise. We tend to take on more - more prayer, more services, more spiritual reading (Scripture and other things - there are even traditional texts to read during Lent!). Orthodoxy has its traditional spiritual disciplines laid out before you, and you simply follow them. You talk with your spiritual father about your fasting, your prayer rule (whether to lengthen or shorten, etc.), and other things in Confession.

Moderation is the key. Too little or too much can be spiritually harmful. For those interested in the Orthodox ascetical tradition, a wonderful, simple little book is Way of the Ascetics by Tito Colliander. It pulls together lots of the traditional texts in a wonderful synthesis.
post #31 of 32
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How did everyone do with their goals?
Not good at all!

I got pregnant and when that happens everything seems to go haywire. I still have these goals though and have been really pondering them lately...
post #32 of 32
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Not good at all!

I got pregnant and when that happens everything seems to go haywire. I still have these goals though and have been really pondering them lately...
I am not doing so hot either. Just had a baby April 18th which could be part of it. But either way, I need to start achieving my goals.
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