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post #1 of 12
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My mom has always told me, half-jokingly, that I must not have been a good person in a previous life. I have had these INSANE runs of bad luck, no fault of my own, where my entire life will literally just fall apart in an instant, and it seems to happen about once every 2-3 years or so. We recently had another one and my mom and I had the karma talk again. I mean, seriously, I try so flipping hard to be a good person, not just a good person but a giving, selfless, loving person and I feel like not only does the good never seem to come back to me, but that I am sometimes even feeling punished by the universe for doing good and giving to others! I am the running joke in the family, about how I must have been "born behind the 8 ball" or cursed or something. It really hurts me and honestly I am so frustrated at trying to even remain where I am in my life, let alone make forward motion at trying to improve things, and I worry that somehow the universe will crap all over me again at an inopportune time and muck it all up again, sending me back to square one or worse. I seem to be one of those people that cannot catch a break, I can rarely come up for air from the stress and almost constant level of disaster in my life. If it is karma following me from a past life I must have been realllllly bad.
post #2 of 12
No. I don't think that Karma follows from a past life. That would be highly unjust. To be blunt, I think all of that stuff is a load of victim-blaming hooey.

It sounds to me though like people seem to be giving you a lot of negative feedback (even in joking form) which would affect anyone's psyche. I would work really hard to find a way to revers those comments in your mind. As if any of us need others feeding into our negative self talk. Can you ask the people close to you who make those comments to stop? I would let them know that those comments are hurtful. I think you might gain some positive effects from just sticking up for yourself like that!
post #3 of 12
No, I don't. However, if I were you, I would consider what kind of life lessons the events you experience are trying to teach you. You mention having life altering things happen every few years- if these events could teach you something what would it be? Forgiveness? perseverance?
Remember the LOA too, try to attract good things to yourself, but don't blame you for the negative either.
HTH!
post #4 of 12
I don't believe that. I'm sorry things have been so hard lately.
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by mamajama View Post
No. I don't think that Karma follows from a past life. That would be highly unjust. To be blunt, I think all of that stuff is a load of victim-blaming hooey.
What she said.
post #6 of 12
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It's not just lately. It's been my entire life. Literally from birth, things fall apart around me. To say I have bad luck is a drastic understatement.
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by DreamsInDigital View Post
It's not just lately. It's been my entire life. Literally from birth, things fall apart around me. To say I have bad luck is a drastic understatement.
I can understand what you are saying, and I think there's no way to know for sure. Jokingly I've always said I must have been Hitler in a previous life because MAN I'm paying for it in this one! (Again...JOKING...no one flip out on me here LOL)

I think though that ultimately it's just as much hooey (and at least a total waste of thought process) to think it's past life karma as it is when people say "all the bad things are gifts from god to help you learn xyz about yourself', and there are folks who think bad things happen because you don't have enough faith, or pray enough, or stand on your head and do the monkey dance enough...or WHATEVER!

The bottom line, I've come to accept, is that some people have easier lives and some people have harder lives. Whenever I start really getting frustrated with my seemingly ENDLESS slate of bad ju-ju that yes, has been around since birth, I try and remember that. I also start really thinking about the people who have horrific lives (the Lost Boys of Sudan comes to mind offhand...starving to death, wandering THOUSANDS of miles on foot, horrific is an understatement, the people in North Korea starving and suffering etc) and realize that I really am on the better end of life's spectrum.

But yeah, I hear ya. Sometimes it just sucks to put it all together. Don't let it get to you, and don't over think it either!


Bellevuemama
post #8 of 12
i do believe in karma, but i don't think is about being a victim, or feeling guilty or whatnot.
I believe that we, as spirits, go trough cicles of death and rebirth, learning and evolving. i think that we are always evolving. Sometimes, we choose harder ways to learn, but every experience is for growth.
I think that we can carry certain themes from past lives that need to be trascended(sorry, is that a word??english is not my lang.) and if we didn't in a past life it will come up in the next until we clear it. And that the way to clear this themes is bringing them to the level of conciousness, be aware, forgive.
I don't think this is a punishment, and i don't believe in guilt. Speaking from my experience, i think there is an opportunity to learn with every difficulty. Right now im going trough some very hard times with my family, with my mom and brother, im working a lot on my feelings, because there are things that hurt me so much, but i'm trying to keep in mind that is not personal. im trying to understand their own suffering and mine.
post #9 of 12
Hi DID. I'm going to agree with Delfin here (the word you were looking for was "transcend").

I see us as energetic spiritual beings. As such, if you know the first law of thermodynamics, energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another. I feel that we have a part of ourselves that is carrying the energetic imprints from life before, and as such it is part of our continuing lessons that we experience in this life. It is only victim blaming hooey if you sit around being the victim, and attracting instances that will allow you to continue being victimized. I think there is a fine line between tragedies that come to us because we are a victim, and those that come to us because we have to clear something up or release something. Even as a victim you can learn great lessons, but you will have to stop being a victim first to learn from the past.

I am deep in a personal crisis right now. And I know that what is happening is directly related to my recent past as well as past life stuff. I'm pretty big into astrology though. Jyotish (vedic astrology) especially addresses past life karma. I've used that as a tool to gain understanding of my current life circumstances. I believe that much of that is related to past life actions. It's obvious, and since I know they didn't make up the rules of jyotish to specifically fit my chart, well how can I not believe? To me the interconnectedness of everything in this life means that this life is also interconnected to life before. Otherwise where can you draw the line and disconnect or destroy the energy from before? It can't be destroyed, only changed to a different form, a different energetic expression.

When using astrology to examine the birth charts of myself and my daughter, it is obvious there are deep ties between us. How would this happen if we were not together before now? To me, it feels so lonely to think that nothing was me before now. That I am here alone in this life without those around me who have an understanding that is much deeper than simply knowing the details of my present life is a lonely thought. The people who are in my life today, are here because we shared much before now.

And a good thing with jyotish is that there are remedies that can be done to alleviate some of the difficulties. There are lots out there who will say this is hooey too. Yet I've seen these remedies applied and issues resolved or averted because of it. Based on that you said you are on a 2-3 year cycle, it makes me think of a Mars affliction, Mars takes 2.5/3 years to make a trip around the sun. I am in something called Sade Sati, where transisting Saturn is coming into the place of my natal moon. It's not pretty at all and in the most traditional interpretation lasts for 7.5 years! In fact, this same configuration happened 30 years ago when I was 5yo (that's how long saturn takes to return to the same point in the sky), and my world was in complete turmoil then too. The resemble between the issues my family faced then and those that I face now..... it is way more than a coincidence.

Those are some of my thoughts on Karma (which only means "action", and is neither good nor bad). Now, I'm far from expert, but if you felt like entertaining me, you could PM me your birth info and I can let you know what I see. If you are really interested in what I've said, I would find a professional jyotishi cuz the rules are very complex and I've only been self teaching myself jyotish for about 4 years, I have much more experience in western astro, but it doesn't address past life stuff as well imho.

And if nothing else, at least in writing this I was able to step outside of my own tragically falling apart life for a few moments. I appreciate it.

Best wishes to you in whatever you are facing.
post #10 of 12
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peace_laughing, I will gladly send you a PM so we could talk more about it.

I am making plans to change the direction of my life and there is this scared part of me that says the 5 years it will take me to finish college for my chosen profession is too long because I will have at least 1 more giant "things falling apart" thing before then. It makes forward motion really scary because I can't help but wonder a little how I will get through it and be able to continue on my desired path.
post #11 of 12
peace_laughing, i also feel like entertaining you!!
post #12 of 12
peace_laughing, I've never heard of jyotish before. It sounds really interesting. I've always been interested in astrology, but never really learned as much about it as I'd like to.

I wouldn't mind entertaining you as well, if you aren't being deluged.

DiD, I agree that karma isn't a punishment, just lessons we need to learn. Can you see any similarities between the situations you find yourself in? If you can figure out what lesson you need to be learning, it can help you get past those situations. It's hard, though. I've found myself in a similar situation multiple times and still haven't quite grasped whether I'm supposed to be learning to let go or to hang on. Clearly, I'm not picking up whatever I'm supposed to be. Maybe I'm just slow?
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