Epilepsy & vaccine

[AGTGIG]

i saw an old thread in a search about someone who was asking about a connection with epilepsy and a vaccine, but when i registered on the site, I couldn't find the link again. anyways, i'm posting to see if anyone else has had this experience. dd had the measles vaccine and started having seizures shortly after that. in the research i've done, i have found some information showing that there is a link between seizures (not just febrile) and some vaccines. wondering if there is anyone else out there with this experience. thanks!

[mamadelbosque]

I don't have any links on me right now, but I do remember that while doing my research on vaccines, I found a good bit of info that basicly said if there is ANY family history of epilepsy/seizures you Should Not Vax - because the risk that they will bring on seizures is just huge. Of course nobodoy in the medical community would ever say so. But its out there. Its one of the few medical contradictions to vax: family history of seizures/epilepsy.

[Marnica]

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...iz&HepBVax.htm

Don't have all my stuff with me right now, but I know I have read several studies about epilepsy and vaccines. I have a friend whose little boy developed epilepsy after the MMR. Anecdotal I know. If I have time I will post the studies later. My binder of info is at home and I'm at work

[kaos2me]

I have a 6 year old dd who is vaxed. She started having seizures about 2 weeks ago so we are still early in this journey.

We are also going through some other issues that might make it hard for me to justify not vaxing anymore right now. Does anyone have any other links/resources that I can take to the doctor in my defense?

[kiara7]

Originally Posted by kaos2me

I have a 6 year old dd who is vaxed. She started having seizures about 2 weeks ago so we are still early in this journey.

We are also going through some other issues that might make it hard for me to justify not vaxing anymore right now. Does anyone have any other links/resources that I can take to the doctor in my defense?

You don't owe your doctor any explanations. If he insists, you can always get a new doctor. Vaccines are not law, they're only mandated for school and almost all states have exemptions you can file.

Doctors will not listen to anything you have to say anyway, imo.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by kaos2me

We are also going through some other issues that might make it hard for me to justify not vaxing anymore right now.

Wouldn't even the most minute doubt justify stopping vaccines until you are 100% sure that this is not to blame?
To not vaccinated ought to be the default thinking. To inject anything into the human body has to be justified first.

Does anyone have any other links/resources that I can take to the doctor in my defense?

You don't have to defend your decision. The doctor has to defend what s/he is doing to the child and show some sort of proof that it is necessary and will work.

Here are some link I've saved on the subject but have not read through them in a while -

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/measles_in_the_brain.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/...ipinfo-mmr.htm

http://www.**********/general30/meas.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/co...THE-TRUTH.html

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by mamadelbosque

I don't have any links on me right now, but I do remember that while doing my research on vaccines, I found a good bit of info that basicly said if there is ANY family history of epilepsy/seizures you Should Not Vax - because the risk that they will bring on seizures is just huge. Of course nobodoy in the medical community would ever say so. But its out there. Its one of the few medical contradictions to vax: family history of seizures/epilepsy.

If it's a contraindication why wouldn't the medical staff share that? My youngest has a seizure disorder and is unvaccinated and our ped is still pushing vaccines even though she had a status epilepticus episode 3 weeks ago. :

[elenalit]

I don't know if you saw my message but my daughter has epilepsy- she was diagnosed at 5 months. She just turned a year a couple of weeks ago and until now has been vaxed regularly. Not my first choice but in NY we can't file for philosophical exemption and i wasn't aware that epilepsy is a condition that could be medically exempt ( at least i hope she will be medically exempt now). You would think that one of the hundreds of docs will tell us.
Anyway we started on a third drug in the beginning of October and she didn't have any more seizures until 3 days after her MMR shot. It's now about 10 days after the shot and she is on her 3rd seizure. I am devastated - I thought we were under control. Also her seizures are different than before that's why i am convinced that it was the shot that caused them. Every site that i have found so far says certain shots cause convulsions and children with history should not be given the shots. So again why don't doctors tell you this stuff is beyond me.
she also had another two months seizure free over the summer and the seizures returned a bit after the third DTP shot.
I am trying to find out how long after the shots the seizures can start.
There's definitely a link between epilepsy and vaccinations but no one cares to say it out loud. you just have to dig yourself and sometimes put 2 and 2 together.

Elena

[alegna]

In NY you can use a religious exemption.

-Angela

[GTyler]

I am trying to find out how long after the shots the seizures can start.
There's definitely a link between epilepsy and vaccinations but no one cares to say it out loud. you just have to dig yourself and sometimes put 2 and 2 together.

So sad to read all these posts,Makes me angry that allopaths (modern western medicine) keep these facts from parents before giving shots.
1-its unethical to not fully inform all parents of the dangers of vaccines
2-a report needs to be filed agains the MD and he vaccine manuf using VAERS reporting system your doctor certainly will NOT DO THIS!
3- stop going to these ped. seek an holistic MD (a naturopath or a homeopath)
4-do your homework ladies! NO one cares if your child has adverse eactions from vaccines if you find out seizures are connected to the vaccines and confront these MD's they will deny,deny and deny it...............Big Pharma makes billions from vaccines each year,do you really think they will warn you about these seizures? NOPE!

here are a few links to vaccine adverse effects yes seizures!
www.thinktwice.com
www.909shot.com
www.hpathy.com
see November 2008 "Ezine" issue dedicated to vaccine dangers (the case i posted is a seizure case-from vaccines)also read all the articles/many interview with homeopaths on this subject.

[kaos2me]

Originally Posted by elenalit

I don't know if you saw my message but my daughter has epilepsy- she was diagnosed at 5 months. She just turned a year a couple of weeks ago and until now has been vaxed regularly. Not my first choice but in NY we can't file for philosophical exemption and i wasn't aware that epilepsy is a condition that could be medically exempt ( at least i hope she will be medically exempt now). You would think that one of the hundreds of docs will tell us.
Anyway we started on a third drug in the beginning of October and she didn't have any more seizures until 3 days after her MMR shot. It's now about 10 days after the shot and she is on her 3rd seizure. I am devastated - I thought we were under control. Also her seizures are different than before that's why i am convinced that it was the shot that caused them. Every site that i have found so far says certain shots cause convulsions and children with history should not be given the shots. So again why don't doctors tell you this stuff is beyond me.
she also had another two months seizure free over the summer and the seizures returned a bit after the third DTP shot.
I am trying to find out how long after the shots the seizures can start.
There's definitely a link between epilepsy and vaccinations but no one cares to say it out loud. you just have to dig yourself and sometimes put 2 and 2 together.

Elena

How scary. I think I did see your post but I haven't had a chance to respond to it. Thank you for sharing your story.


Thank you everyone else for the advice.

[Stephenie]

Originally Posted by kaos2me

I have a 6 year old dd who is vaxed. She started having seizures about 2 weeks ago so we are still early in this journey.

We are also going through some other issues that might make it hard for me to justify not vaxing anymore right now. Does anyone have any other links/resources that I can take to the doctor in my defense?

My son has scarring on his brain that causes occasional seizures. At his last neuro visit we admitted that we don't vax him. The response? "That's probably for the best." You'll find working with the docs for epilepsy will be much different than working with your ped.

[applejuice]

After a lifetime of being an observer, I always suspected that vaccinations could cause epilepsy. I had a friend in school who had it. It was sad. She would have them in class and the class would make fun of her when they thought they could get away with it.

I also suspect that petit mal and grand mal seizures can be caused by damage from vaccines. Of course the people who have the money to do the studies to find out also make money from the vaccines, so that study will never be done, so I can just keep observing and surmising to my heart's content here.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by applejuice

After a lifetime of being an observer, I always suspected that vaccinations could cause epilepsy. I had a friend in school who had it. It was sad. She would have them in class and the class would make fun of her when they thought they could get away with it.

I also suspect that petit mal and grand mal seizures can be caused by damage from vaccines. Of course the people who have the money to do the studies to find out also make money from the vaccines, so that study will never be done, so I can just keep observing and surmising to my heart's content here.

But what about people who seizures who have never been vaccinated? Not all seizures and epilepsy are vax reactions.

[bandgeek]

Originally Posted by theretohere

But what about people who seizures who have never been vaccinated? Not all seizures and epilepsy are vax reactions.

Seizure disorders are caused by many different things and there are SO many variants in types of seizures/seizure disorders. My DD has not had a single vax but has a seizure disorder that was very clearly caused by the severe brain damage she has. I don't think anybody is saying all cases of epilepsy are vaccine induced.

I didn't plan to vax anyway, but because of her neuro status I am that much more against injecting her with anything. Her seizures range from very mild to life-threatening. All it would take is one bad reaction from a vax to kill her.

[theretohere]

Originally Posted by bandgeek

Seizure disorders are caused by many different things and there are SO many variants in types of seizures/seizure disorders. My DD has not had a single vax but has a seizure disorder that was very clearly caused by the severe brain damage she has. I don't think anybody is saying all cases of epilepsy are vaccine induced.

I didn't plan to vax anyway, but because of her neuro status I am that much more against injecting her with anything. Her seizures range from very mild to life-threatening. All it would take is one bad reaction from a vax to kill her.

I get that- my DD2 has seizures and isn't vaxxed, I was just looking at a previous comment.