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I've noticed some who take these two issues into consideration when deciding what vaxes to get. We're not planning on day care because we've always had opposite schedules. Maybe we'll need to use a sitter every now and then. And we don't really travel outside the US. But I work for a company where a majority of the workers are from other countries. They've been in the US for a few years but they're from all over the globe and routinely travel back to their home countries or travel the globe for vacations. I've noticed over the years that the vast majority of my co-workers (including the Americans) have absolutely horrible hygiene habits. Very few people seem to wash their hands before eating or after using the bathroom. People sneeze and cough without turning away or covering their mouths. Drives me nuts! When someone gets sick it spreads so fast and usually people get sick 2-3 times each winter. And most people have a hero complex and never call in sick. Also, there's been a bit of a baby boom and all of their kids are in day care. I've been coming across a lot of posts and articles about how some VPDs show up in adults as similar to a cold. So, I'm starting to wonder if some of the illnesses that go around aren't just the typical cold or flu. Should I be concerned about working in this environment and bringing something home to my DD? She's not due until April and we're leaning towards no vaxes. Thanks!
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Congratulations on your pregnancy and I wish you a gentle and speedy delivery.

Now to your concerns -

Your child will get sick from time to time, whether s/he is vaccinated or not. That is a fact. That is how we build our immune system. Sickness does not have to be scary however. Not if you know how to treat it and what to do. We don't leave it up to a doctor who can only prescribe drugs and has no other way of dealing with infections. We have learned how to be our own healer.
There are many books out there to teach you how to deal with every infection. Here is one I consider a really great book - Healthy Babies, Healthy Children by Aviva Jill Romm.

When you learn how to deal with sickness, it gives you lots of confidence and freedom from fear.

We don't go to a doctor, except for trauma or if we need a health check up for school or camp. We don't ever go when one of the kids is sick. I would not trust any them to treat my grandchild in the best way since they are bound by pHARMa guidelines.



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We're not planning on day care because we've always had opposite schedules. Maybe we'll need to use a sitter every now and then. And we don't really travel outside the US.
My 2 vaccine free grandchildren go to lots of friends/relatives houses, take to all sort of kids' classes, travel to Europe most summers, take the subway in NYC (which I consider the worst), have various baby sitters, visit the old age home, meet their father for lunch in the hospital (he is an MD), and yet they are healthier than all their little friends.



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But I work for a company where a majority of the workers are from other countries. They've been in the US for a few years but they're from all over the globe and routinely travel back to their home countries or travel the globe for vacations.
Diseases don't choose what country they live in. Viruses, bacteria, live everywhere they have the opportunity. They know no boarders.
The reason why there may be more sickness from the same virus or bacteria in poorer countries is because the people don't have decent food or water. That is what makes people sick, not what nationality they are or where on the globe they live. It all depends on how healthy they eat and how healthy they are on account of it.



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I've noticed over the years that the vast majority of my co-workers (including the Americans) have absolutely horrible hygiene habits.
That is a problem but your baby won't be in that work place. You can wash your hand before you come home.



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When someone gets sick it spreads so fast and usually people get sick 2-3 times each winter. And most people have a hero complex and never call in sick. Also, there's been a bit of a baby boom and all of their kids are in day care.
Again, you are the barrier between all that and your child. If you keep yourself healthy and eat healthy food, your child is less likely to get sick. Most important is that you nurse your child. Your own breast milk will automatically produce the antibodies to whatever cold or flu you come in contact with. It is the best medicine for your child. So I do hope you will nurse your child.

Also remember, a child has to be introduced to viruses and bacteria to build immunity. So, sickness is not all negative. Severe sickness is bad, but an overall infection, with a fever and a rash, is a good immunity strengthener. I am just saying, keeping your baby away from everyone is not healthy.



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I've been coming across a lot of posts and articles about how some VPDs show up in adults as similar to a cold.
No. You would have to present some sources for that. "VPD" - the diseases that are supposed to be prevented by a vaccine, are not what goes around the general population.
Besides, all those foreign workers you are in contact with on a day to day basis, most likely have had all the VPD naturally and therefore carry natural immunity. That means they will not get most of them again every. They have much better protection than Americans who are vaccinated. Because vaccines only protect at best for a limited amount of time. That is why I don't believe it when they try to drum fear of foreigners into us.



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Should I be concerned about working in this environment and bringing something home to my DD?
There is no vaccine to protect your dd from dirt or poor hygiene. Only you can protect her from that.

It is very smart of you to be concerned about vaccines. They can (and in fact do) damage the child so that she is never completely well and depends on some sort of medicine all her life. Just take a look at how many kids are on allergy medicine, chemo therapy, Ritalin, etc., or need special help. Our kids are sicker than any previous generation of kids.

Many people who have researched vaccines for a long time can not see any benefit for them at all. And many more people actually come to believe that vaccines are the main trigger for autoimmune diseases such as asthma, allergies, cancer, rheumatism, autism, learning disabilities, blindness, hearing loss, Multiple Sclerosis, and many other 'modern' diseases.

There is a theory that childhood diseases have a real benefit for the child. They are called childhood diseases because they are easy on the child. Fevers in a young child can be left to run very high which builds great immunity. That type of immunity last a life time and may be instrumental in preventing cancers.

There are studies that show that children who had measles in childhood don't get childhood cancers and seldom get cancer as adults. The old people you see now, didn't get most of the vaccines. They were not on the market. We won't know the full effect of vaccines in our kids now, until they are old. Who knows how long they will live? We won't know.

We are messing with health and don't know the consequences. It is best to leave well enough alone. There is no way an injection can make a healthy child 'healthier'. No way. The body immediately sets out to try and get rid of whatever foreign substance was injected. It tries to get back to being healthy again.

Feed your child bm, take care of her, love her, and don't let anyone mess with her.



btw, you might want to also research the Vitamin K shot and the eye antibiotics that they do immediately after the baby is born.
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