Countdown to LOST!!! Season 5 - Page 5

[Mab]

how awesome. so, this guy http://www.timelooptheory.com was totally right. someone linked to this theory a while ago, and now with the new chapters it all makes fantastic sense. I highly recommend that link, it makes stuff more clear and enjoyable :: lost rocks

[Janelovesmax]

Originally Posted by Mab

how awesome. so, this guy http://www.timelooptheory.com was totally right. someone linked to this theory a while ago, and now with the new chapters it all makes fantastic sense. I highly recommend that link, it makes stuff more clear and enjoyable :: lost rocks

All i have to say about this is "WOW".

[zebrabelly]

Originally Posted by JessasMilkMama

I love Rose and Bernard SO MUCH.

Her panic last night was unsettling. She has such a good intuition for what's going on and takes everything so calmly, even when she was dying of cancer, she didn't panic. I was pretty much alarmed last night when she was freaking out.

Originally Posted by garrettsmommy

I remember the nose bleeding from when Ben gasses all the Dharma people. He was in the van with his father, then he put the mask on and opened the can. His fathers nose started bleeding then.

It also happened to that guy from Short Circuit (who is also in a Nikon commercial these days ) who was on the boat and came unstuck in time like Desmond. Because he didn't have a constant, his body could not handle the time travel and he died, bloody nose towards the end.

I don't think it's exactly like either case for Charlotte, b/c there is obviously no poison right now, and because he nose bleeding is one of her first symptoms, not her last. However, I do think that something about the time travel is upsetting her more strongly than the rest - likely because of her island connection, whatever it is.

Originally Posted by CarrieMF

When the fire arrows were being thrown that was 2004, BUT when did Eko's brother's plane crash? That was quite a while before 2004 & Locke was in that year. I wonder if they can go ahead of 2004 into the future to 2007 when they come back to the island. Is that how they get back on, Locke kills himself so they can get back. But then why is it so important that they keep Locke's body safe & who are they keeping him safe from.

Locke (and everyone else on the island) became unstuck in time b/c of what Ben did to move the island. So he went back to sometime before 2004, the Oceanic crash, when Yemi's plane crashed.

FWIW, I do not think Locke is dead "for good". I think he's becoming a literary Jesus - dying and will return to life to save the rest.

[zebrabelly]

Just reading through the Time Loop theory and I see one hole in it - they theorize that you can only time travel back to the point where the machine was originally created. They feel the machine was probably created in the 1960's. But when Richard went back to Locke as a child, that must have been the 50's right? OK, so a few years off isn't such a big deal - what about the Polar Bear found in the desert? That was DEFINITELY not the 1900's.

Otherwise, it's pretty interesting.

Oh, but another big hole? That Ben was born in 1970. No way, man.

[the_lissa]

Holy crap, teh actor is 55?


Because I would have thought he was in his 30s.

[zebrabelly]

Dude, really? he is soooo ollllld looking IMO.

[the_lissa]

Haha Yeah I thought he was late 30/early 40s.

[JessasMilkMama]

My bad, I dont think it was Sawyer in the beginning.

I didnt think he was 55 either, wow. More like 42 or something

off to read the time theory.

[zebrabelly]

Well, I guess he does look younger than 55, but I think I was/am judging him on Hollywood standards. If he was a normal guy, I'd say early 40's. But in Hollywood, definitely late 50's.

[Hatteras Gal]

Originally Posted by TheBluebird

And, yeah, I suspect she's Daniel's mom.


She said she came from the island, didn't she? I think you're right about her dad.

My new theory for the night: I think Miles is Dr Candle/Chang's son. He's the right age... it fits. They all have a connection, there are no coincidences.

I definitely think she is Daniel's mom. Desmond is going to freak out when he finds her.

My crazy time travel theory of the night was that Daniel is Charlotte's father. I've never seen them kiss or anything that would indicate a romantic relationship but there is some sort of closeness between them. I've always interpreted it as romantic before. But last season my wild theory was that she was the child of Ben and Annie, so I think I just like these kinds of theories.

I like the Miles/Dr. Candle theory. Interesting.

I like Charlotte and I hope she doesn't die. She's got a good story to tell, I think.

[Stayseeliz]

Originally Posted by Mab

how awesome. so, this guy http://www.timelooptheory.com was totally right. someone linked to this theory a while ago, and now with the new chapters it all makes fantastic sense. I highly recommend that link, it makes stuff more clear and enjoyable :: lost rocks

So is the timeline fact or conjecture? It's interesting but I quit reading it because I don't want to be confused!!

[delphine]

Some things I was thinking about last night:

Jin - Until now, I assumed he was still alive but somehow on the island. BUT, when the island went back in time (and I'm still not sure why the island is invisible...isn't it still in the same "place" but a different time??) anyway, the freighter was outside of the "bubble" of the island, because it looked to Sawyer and Juliet like the freighter disappeared. So, Jin would not have gone back in time with the island. Even if he survived the explosion, he would have been out in the middle of the ocean with nothing around. So, I am beginning to beleive that he really is dead.

Sun - I really don't like the new Sun. And, if she goes back to the island is she going to leave the baby with her mom? I hate how shows make characters pregnant but, when it's not convenient to have kids on the show, the kids kind of disappear. She wanted a baby for years and it's her dead husband's baby, but she leaves it for months at a time??? Doesn't seem very plausible to me. But, I do understand why she would blame Kate for Jin's death. Kate screwed up.

Whatever happened to the kids and passengers that the "others" kidnapped soon after the plane crash? I know they show that one flight attendant once in a while, but they never really developed that story line.

I love Sawyer and Juliet together.

[Zannah]

Originally Posted by delphine

Whatever happened to the kids and passengers that the "others" kidnapped soon after the plane crash? I know they show that one flight attendant once in a while, but they never really developed that story line.

This bugs me too. It seems like they should have gone a little deeper with it. Especially since they brought the flight attendant back so many times.

[friendtoall]

I started to develop a time loop theory of my own when I started rewatching all the seasons last year, with the insight of the more recent season to illuminate secrets in the first.

I think that anytime the islands "protective bubble" (for lack of a better name) is breached, time travel can happen or events in time can be changed. I think the strange noises they heard on the beach the first nights after the crash were the plane crashing in another time, a time when there were no survivors. I also think that anyone who has travelled and is conscious of it i.e. has a constant, can change events. I think that Richard was testing John to see if he had done all the things in his future yet, or would do.

I love the idea that Charlotte is Faraday's daughter. Or his mother? But if she has done the time travel thing, wouldn't she know about it?

[zebrabelly]

Originally Posted by friendtoall

I think that Richard was testing John to see if he had done all the things in his future yet, or would do.

OOOH! Good one!!

[Shelsi]

Originally Posted by garrettsmommy

This episode was great!! I finally feel like I know what's going on. LOL My dh pointed out that Faraday is not aging either just like that other guy (can't think of his name, he has dark hair, is one of the others).

I thoguht that Faraday was traveling through time and that's why he wasn't aging.

Originally Posted by JessasMilkMama

And Sun, she totally has gone over to the darkside. She BLAMES Kate. I didnt anticipate that.

who would want a blood test from kate? could they even legally do that? on what grounds? that is absurd. They want aaron?! Why, cuz hes special like Walt or they think they can use him as ransom or to get back to the island? Ben is trying to scare her to go back to the island.

I actually believe that Sun is the one who is ordering the blood test. She vowed revenge on everyone who had anything to do with her husband's death. I believe she will go after Widmore eventually but right now she is working on destroying Kate's life.

Originally Posted by JessasMilkMama

Still confused. Locke is dead...right? Like..forever? Looked dead to me.

I assumed the island would heal him when they brought him back. That's why it's so important they bring him back with them. He can't come back to life if he's not on the island.

I'm curious about Ben in regards to going back to the island. He keeps saying they all have to go back but I thought that he said last season that once you move the island you can never go back?

So who here is really worried about Penny? Widmore killed Ben's daughter and Ben told Widmore he was going to kill his daughter in return, which of course is Penny. I will be so upset if she dies.

This is what I found really odd about the new episodes the other day: After Faraday stayed back at the hatch and talked to Desmond he goes back to the beach and I swear the people on the beach said something like, "where have you been? You've been gone for over 2 hours!" How could they tell time well enough, especially while skipping through time, to know he'd been gone 2 hours? More than anything this seemed like an editing error to me but who knows, it could mean something too.

[greenegirl]

I think Ben is the one who hired those people to ask Kate for a blood test. I don't even think they are necessarily actually lawyers, but are in fact among the Others who have left the island as part of putting this plan into action.

Ben wants everyone to come back to the island. We know how manipulative he is and how he seems to understand the specific psychology of each Oceanic survivor. I believe he wanted to push Kate out of her comfort zone, knowing she would eventually run to Jack. Similarly, I think the people watching Hurley and/or following Sayid were hired by Ben. He's applying just enough pressure to push them in the direction he wants them to go, without them being aware that he is doing so.

[zebrabelly]

I agree. I also think they have no legal backing to ask her for this. I've watched enough Law and Order to know that a lawyer can't just tell her she has to do it.

[Zannah]

I have been wondering if it would be required for Sun's baby to go back with them. I mean, technically, the baby was on the island, just in the womb.

[eclipse]

I think it now makes sense why the Others (Ben et al) seemed to be expecting the plane crash - the time travelers run into them at some point in the past and tell them what will happen. Do you remember when they flashed back to Juliet coming to the island? Someone commented "wow, she really does look like her" and they never clarified who "her" was? I think "her" was actually future Juliet, whom Ben had met in the past as she is jumping through time. The past people tell the Others what will happen in the future. Past Ben falls in love with future Juliet - maybe she even falls in love with him back before she jumps again. Perhaps they meet each other in multiple jumps. This is why Ben is so attached to Juliet from the moment she steps on the island and thinks she should be his. I also think time traveling Locke is going to turn out to be Jacob in the travelling cabin.

Also, when Locke dies, doesn't his obit say he is survived by a teenage son? Any theories on who this might be?