Navy Wife told dependents can't go on accomanied tour...

[Emmeline II]

I've never seen this attempted before. Their destination country does not require vax for visitors. I've asked her if she was given anything in writing and if a reg was used to justify it.

[Lazy Gardens]

What is the destination country?

The Navy might not want to risk her or her children to yellow fever, typhoid, or whatever is still in the wild there.

[Tracy]

Originally Posted by Emmeline II

I've never seen this attempted before. Their destination country does not require vax for visitors. I've asked her if she was given anything in writing and if a reg was used to justify it.

is it possible this has nothing to do with medical reasons?

[Bluegoat]

I am not surprised by this, in my experience the military likes everyone to be vaccinated, and doesn't deal well with anything different. I suppose they feel that if someone gets sick, they are responsible, and they will have to spend their resources on caring for them.

[PassionateWriter]

will they spend their $$$ on any adverse reactions though.

[loveyourohana]

I have heard that if you are traveling from the US to another country you are alright no need to vaccin. but if you have another country you are flying to not straight from the US you have no choice.

Correct me if I am wrong here... So US to Australia... your ok... Australia to Africa... plan on no choice with vaccinations. That is the same other way around as well...

[Shelsi]

My understanding with the military is they will not pay for their travel if they won't get the vaxes. However the family can pay their own way if they want...which of course would be financially impossible for most

I always feared the overseas scenario for this very reason. I knew in my heart that the kids and I would just have to stay in the US and not go along with dh if it ever happened and we couldn't find a way around it. Luckily the overseas thing never came up.

[Bluegoat]

Originally Posted by loveyourohana

I have heard that if you are traveling from the US to another country you are alright no need to vaccin. but if you have another country you are flying to not straight from the US you have no choice.

Correct me if I am wrong here... So US to Australia... your ok... Australia to Africa... plan on no choice with vaccinations. That is the same other way around as well...

I have to say I wouldn't go to Africa without being vaccinated in any situation. This may well be because I am pretty low-key in my concerns about vax, but my husband lived there (in Rwanda) for a while and saw more kids with polio etc... it was so commonplace he stopped noticing.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by Lazy Gardens

What is the destination country?

The Navy might not want to risk her or her children to yellow fever, typhoid, or whatever is still in the wild there.

Italy. There is no place a dependent can currently go where those diseases are an issue. There is no regulation that says that dependents have to be vaccinated to go on an oversees tour and no SOFA that requires it. It seems that the destination Commander is trying to make this a requirement for his base, though I bet this can be overcome if one makes enough noise.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by Shelsi

My understanding with the military is they will not pay for their travel if they won't get the vaxes.

I have helped many overseas dependent with their exemptions for CDC and DODs; they all got overseas without vaccinations and with travel pay; tmk there is not reg in any service that requires dependents to have vaccines to go on accompanied tours. I've have not heard of any dependent have this trouble before.

[Lazy Gardens]

The Navy is going to have to take care of any dependents who get vaccine-preventable illnesses, so it's reasonable that they would have an interest in minimizing the number of suceptible dependents.

Also, if you plan to do any traveling, being ready for whatever is required (or possible to catch) in the surrounding countries or vaccine-preventable diseases that can be brought into Italy by travelers or taken home by you and your children is a good idea.

[Arduinna]

Originally Posted by Lazy Gardens

The Navy is going to have to take care of any dependents who get vaccine-preventable illnesses, so it's reasonable that they would have an interest in minimizing the number of suceptible dependents.

Also, if you plan to do any traveling, being ready for whatever is required (or possible to catch) in the surrounding countries or vaccine-preventable diseases that can be brought into Italy by travelers or taken home by you and your children is a good idea.

Using that rational then everyone should be vaxed, it's not like people don't visit the US or Canada

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by Lazy Gardens

The Navy is going to have to take care of any dependents who get vaccine-preventable illnesses, so it's reasonable that they would have an interest in minimizing the number of suceptible dependents.

Also, if you plan to do any traveling, being ready for whatever is required (or possible to catch) in the surrounding countries or vaccine-preventable diseases that can be brought into Italy by travelers or taken home by you and your children is a good idea.

It isn't the Navy's policy, it is one base commander and I doubt the policy could be enforced. Military members are subject to whatever the military wants to do to them, dependents are not. The only way that I know of to keep dependents from going anywhere they are otherwise entitled to go is under the "Exceptional Family Members Program" and that is for family members that need particular medical care that is not available at just any post.

to the pp; foreigners come here too.

[loveyourohana]

Originally Posted by Bluegoat

I have to say I wouldn't go to Africa without being vaccinated in any situation. This may well be because I am pretty low-key in my concerns about vax, but my husband lived there (in Rwanda) for a while and saw more kids with polio etc... it was so commonplace he stopped noticing.

The nice thing with what you are saying here though is choice. I personally would do something poss. Before traveling to somewhere with high disease rates, but it wouldn't be a typical vaccination. I would then consider other options.