Wow - I was totally just dropped by my pediatrician!

[jenkuh]

Today I took my DS (newborn) to see the Dr. because I wanted to make sure his blocked tear duct was doing okay. It was the first time the Dr. has seen him and first I got a lecture about the newborn screening/ hearing test (which we're doing, but haven't done yet). She was less then pleased to hear I'd had a homebirth, and then brought up the fact that my 3 year old hasn't been vaxed since her 6 month appt. and asked if I planned on giving her or DS any more. I said no and she said she making her policies more strict and asked if there was another ped. I could take them to! At least she didn't chew me out but come on!

[Niamh]

Ugh. Sorry. s:

Count yourself lucky that it happened so soon in your relationship with her. There are pediatricians out there who are willing to have patients who think for themselves. Some pediatricians feel as strongly about needing to be vaccinated as we do about *not* needing it. At least she didn't pressure you to get the vaccinations for your child. Now you have the chance to find a pediatrician who you can connect with a bit better.

[Fyrestorm]

Consider it a blessing. It's nearly impossible to work with a HCP who's values are so different than your own.

[mom2tig99Nroo03]

sorry you found another bad one

[Gitti]

You will be surprised how much more resourceful this experience will make you.

We have learned to be our own family doctor 11 years ago and have not needed one since. We are so happy about it. No antibiotics, no pushing vaccines, no statin drugs, not even any otc meds, nothing. We don't need it. We only need healthy nutrition.

I must say dh and I are actually surprised that most people don't take charge of their own health care.

The decision to no longer rely on doctors has given us lots of confidence and freedom. We know we can take care of ourselves better than anyone whose main purpose is to sell drugs.

The reason why you were dropped is because all doctors have to follow pharmaceutical guide lines and to fully vaccinate their patients is the first tenet. After that it's easy. They will have life long patients who need pharmaceutical drugs. Those drugs are not intended to heal anyone. They are only to treat various symptoms. The more side effects to each drug, the better their sales.

The sad thing is that most peds are afraid to look at what they are actually prescribing to and injecting into little kids. They have no clue. They won't even read the ingredients list. Mothers had to inform them that there is (was?) mercury in the shots. They denied it at first. Refused to believe it. Called moms who informed them as 'stupid'. But once it was undeniable and they actually had to look at the ingredients, then it became alright that kids were being injected with mercury. The next point was: it is such a small mount it doesn't matter. Again refusing to look at the whole load, and basing the amount on one shot at a time.

Most peds vaccinate their own kids. That justifies what they are doing. Otherwise they could not live with themselves. They will even call a vaccine reaction in their very own child "coincidental".

I don't think most of them will ever wake up. imo they will vaccinate their kids to the end. Even after everyone has refused vaccines many will adhere to the practice in order to prove everyone wrong. It is sad how brainwashed a person can be.

There are many books out there but here is one to get you started if you need one -

Healthy Babies, Healthy Children by Aviva Jill Romm

OK back to the main topic - you are better off without all of them.

[gardenmommy]

right on, gitti. I wish it were not so, because most people believe every word of what a dr. says, instead of learning about it for themselves.


To the OP: if you feel the need for a dr. try out a family dr. we went years without one, and just this fall finally found one who is ok with us non-vaxing. He is a family practice dr., not a ped, and has been very respectful of our decisions.

[ShwarmaQueen]

Getting dumped by an all-or-nothing doctor is not worth getting upset over. I hope you find one that is more open minded to non-traditional pediatrics.

[mrs.basil]

Originally Posted by Gitti

The reason why you were dropped is because all doctors have to follow pharmaceutical guide lines and to fully vaccinate their patients is the first tenet. After that it's easy. They will have life long patients who need pharmaceutical drugs. Those drugs are not intended to heal anyone. They are only to treat various symptoms. The more side effects to each drug, the better their sales.

Wow. Is this what you really believe?

[Gitti]

I don't know. Read the following -

http://www.naturalnews.com/001896.html

... prevention and eradication of diseases will never be in the interests of the drug industry.

... the only way to make money in the drug industry is to get a return on investment, and that can only happen by expanding the number of customers who are purchasing drugs.

.... is accomplished by expanding the number of diseases and disease names as well as avoiding any investment in prevention ...

... the pharmaceutical industry promises health and promises cures, and yet what it delivers is a lifetime of continued disease and dependence on profit-building pharmaceuticals.

(89words)

This is by far not the only source that posts this sort of information.

[k9sarchik]

You're just joining the club. Don't sweat it....you are better off finding a Dr. that will support your decision. Look for a Family Practitioner they are usually more flexible.

Gitti~You are correct.

[buttercupmama]

Well said, Gitti. I realized this myself 12 years ago. I've taken charge of my health and it has been a good but sad experience. Especially sad when people around you are duped into taking so many drugs that make them feel worse and want to give up on life.

[Ophelia]

Originally Posted by mrs.basil

Wow. Is this what you really believe?

In my experience, I have generally found that typical Western medicine only treats the symptoms, not the underlying cause. So the docs write out perscriptions and tell us to keep buying stuff (OTC) to try and quell the symptoms, without ever reaching the real problem. Can you see where this is causing people to keep buying pharmaceutical products for life? Did you see the study recently that I think it was almost 1/2 of people in the U.S. are on some type of daily medication? I'm sure some other countries/cultures aren't like that. Are U.S. people that much different than people in other countries? I don't think so. So why do we need so much more medication than them?

To give a few examples of my personal experience:

1. A long time ago, I got eczema or eczema-like patches on the back of my neck and arms. I was given a script for a type of anti-dandruff shampoo. It did help the symptoms themselves, but now after years I've finally realized that there is probably something more internal that needs to be taken care of.

2. I have problems with depression and was given a couple different perscriptions to try. Not much at all as far as digging deeper to find out the cause of the depression in the first place, just 'here's a perscription'. 'your husband died a year ago and you're still this upset? here's a perscription'.

3. My son as a newborn kept getting eczema spots, bad cradle cap, and bad diaper rashes including a burn rash on his rectum. Went to the ped's office several times and each time they just gave me a perscription. Not once did any one of them mention that he might be sensitive to something in my diet. I cut out wheat/gluten and all his symptoms were gone in 6 days.

I still like docs, but have lost some faith. Sorry, getting OT here.

[Yulia_R]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm

Consider it a blessing. It's nearly impossible to work with a HCP who's values are so different than your own.

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Congratas on your baby and your homebirth!

Off topic, but wanted to mention it anyway. If you haven't read already, this is very important to know

A Warning For Parents of Intact Sons http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=129378

The Definition of "Retraction" & Why it is BAD http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=575627

When you go to doctors make sure they keep their busy hands away from your baby's penis. If you ever need to cath make sure you make them SIGN a form that states that they are NOT to retract your son.

[thepeach80]

We were fired from our FP when AJ was 4 mos old, not a big deal as we had kind of already decided to find a new DR b/c it was just one fight after the other when we saw him, and we had vaxed him at 2 mos! We were reccomended a fabulous ped by a non-vaxing friend and have seen her for 5 yrs now. 95% of the non-vaxing moms I know see her, so she's quite popular w/ our crowd, lol. I trust her and she trusts me, yes, she rx meds, we use them most of the time, but she's also good at helping find the underlying cause etc. All of my kids have had allergies and the last 2 reflux and she's given us reccomendations outside of just giving us meds etc. There are good DRs and bad DRs, just like anything else.

[1growingsprout]

I agree with the PP, better to find out now then years down the road....

[mountainsun]

I think that this is pretty common now-a-days. That being said, we stopped going to a ped about 4 years ago - we see a family practice doc (who is OK with not vaxing) if/when we need to.

Personally, I feel that "well-baby" visits are pointless if you are not vaxing, anyways (unless there is a medical reason to be seeing one). And FWIW, this is our family docs philosophy as well.

I hope you find a health care practitioner that meets your needs, mama.