Originally Posted by Triciabn
out at a bar the other night.... not New years eve, but still.
There was a man there with a wee baby... and it creeped me out.
Everytime I turned to the right I would see this little baby and think a million "Momma thoughts"....
"is the music too loud"
"Is that door causing a draft for the baby"
"are we being too loud"
"What is that guy with the baby trying to prove by dragging that baby here...that he is still hip?"
"Wouldn't that baby be happier being cozy at home"
"I bet that baby is getting so overstimulated"
Why is that baby here"
"why can't that baby be at home"
and I just asked the other women in the room who were there the other night and they all said it was just weird to see a baby out in a bar...creepy.
Now I have a ton of kids and everyone in this room is fine with all the kid activity here... but they all agreed that the baby in the bar was weird.
Just the opinions of one room.. not indicative to your area.
just my 2cents.
^I have to say I have felt this myself.
I worked as a bartender both here in LA and NYC for over 10 years and to me, a bar isn't a place for babies. I know it is the law here in LA. At the last bar gig I worked, it was at a classy French restaurant where families could come and the lounge was where people could eat and drink too. As a rule, no children after 9 pm in lounge and no children at the bar ever.
The law aside, when places get busy and crowded esp. on a holiday and people get rowdy, someone can accidentally bump a baby or knock them with their elbow( I have seen this once in a French bistro late at night as a patron- babe was in a carrier). Maybe I sound kinda prudish but when I was there and saw this very young baby, it did take me out of my experience and made me wonder why this young babe was in a lounge type adult environment. It seemed too loud and I worried for the baby. It is a real liability.
I also because of years of bar life work experience have seen it all. This is including upscale, low brow, pubs, sexy lounges, music venues, etc. People when they are out drinking become unpredictable. Someone can randomly get in a fight with someone else. Someone can get shoved. Drinks can slip from someone's hand and shatter. Etc. Etc. And its always dim and loud.
I just personally would never take a baby into a bar or want to see one there as a patron.
Even if they do let you in with a baby, be aware that other patrons may not be thrilled to see a baby in a bar and it does become a focal point for criticism.
I am sorry you weren't able to hang with your pals. I don't mean to come off preachy or judgey but I did work in the bar environment for many years so it strikes a chord with me.
I am surprised your pals and DH couldn't make a compromise...you know, think of a nice restaurant you all could have went to where the baby would have been welcome.
That sucks you felt left out.
I know you had good intentions and didn't know it was a law but I think its a good law.
I hope I didn't stir the pot by voicing my opinion but I do support you and know you are a good mama.
Casemnor: I grew up in NOLA. My other concern with bars there regarding babies is the cigarette smoke which is pervasive.