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post #681 of 1125
That's great that you're going to get new housing! We moved into a tiny, old house on Bragg and a few months later, they moved us to a brand new one. It was nice!

We are in our second month of this deployment. It still sucks and I'm still struggling with the kids, but at least we have a lot of friends and a lot of activities to keep us busy so that time goes by faster. Also, communication with my husband is excellent this time around. When his internet is working well, we get to talk twice a day! Things have changed so much since he was deployed for the first time back in 2003. Even my boxes are getting to him in about 4 days this time around.
post #682 of 1125
Did you all see the news about the Military Spouse Residency Relief Act?

Here's a couple of stories: http://www.airforcetimes.com/benefit...dency_111009w/
http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/11/951513

And the text of the bill is here. You have to click on #4 (S.475.ENR) for the text of the bill.

My home state (WA) has actually been pretty good about residency. I've maintained my driver's license there & vote absentee in every election. They actually give mil spouses non expiring driver's licenses just like active duty! We've had several complaints about our current state, however, including income taxes and the vehicle tax.
post #683 of 1125
Shannon! What are you doing here? I was about to whine about some military stuff on our other group but realized it probably wasn't on topic so came looking here for a military group. I just found this tribe and was going to join and here you are already signed up!

Subbing

My dh is a Marine, currently deployed but coming home soon.
post #684 of 1125
hi girls, just subbing to the new thread, thank for starting it.

So a rather open question for you all, i have been made FRG Leader, any advice? I'm glad to do it the FRG has been really lacking and i have felt really disconnected to the unit and i dont like that, we have a small unit, just around 30 men and women (nearly 50-50!)

So i would like to make the frg into something that both wives and husbands feel supported by and that is a good thing rather than a drag and just another meeting to have to go to. if you have any ideas let me know.
post #685 of 1125
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Originally Posted by •Adorkable• View Post
hi girls, just subbing to the new thread, thank for starting it.

So a rather open question for you all, i have been made FRG Leader, any advice? I'm glad to do it the FRG has been really lacking and i have felt really disconnected to the unit and i dont like that, we have a small unit, just around 30 men and women (nearly 50-50!)

So i would like to make the frg into something that both wives and husbands feel supported by and that is a good thing rather than a drag and just another meeting to have to go to. if you have any ideas let me know.
Ask them what they need. Here, we're trying to work in some daytime "mommy" social events and welcoming incoming families. We're in the post deployment part of the cycle, so we're getting a lot of young families, right from AIT. Do you have a lot of childless marrieds? That changes the whole dynamic. Get everyone's email, and send out a quick easy survey!
post #686 of 1125
MW! Too funny! I guess it's a small MDC!
post #687 of 1125
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Originally Posted by •Adorkable• View Post
hi girls, just subbing to the new thread, thank for starting it.

So a rather open question for you all, i have been made FRG Leader, any advice? I'm glad to do it the FRG has been really lacking and i have felt really disconnected to the unit and i dont like that, we have a small unit, just around 30 men and women (nearly 50-50!)

So i would like to make the frg into something that both wives and husbands feel supported by and that is a good thing rather than a drag and just another meeting to have to go to. if you have any ideas let me know.
This is the first place I've been to with a very active FRG. Our FRG leader sends emails all the time, there are activities and meetings regularly. The problem is, the turnout is always low. I don't know why and I feel bad for our FRG leader who puts a lot of time and effort into things. She plans a lot of stuff for the kids, which is nice, but at our Halloween party, 4 of us showed up.

I don't know what to tell you. I think our FRG leader is doing a good job and I have no idea what else she could do to make it better and make people want to show up.
post #688 of 1125


KatieJD, congrats on your UC! I haven't visited the thread for a while so I thought I'd reintroduce myself.

I'm Casey. We have a 9mo. daughter. Huz is coast guard, w/10 yrs. active + some reserve time. He's actually not "working" right now because they've sent him to school for 2 years, and then we'll owe them 4 (no big deal b/c we were going to do 20 anyway). So for now we're in Austin, TX @ UT.

There's a small Army installation here, but really nothing for us, so we live off-base and go up to Ft. Hood in Killeen for commissary, etc. My biggest challenge right now, having moved from a small base in Florida, is not having a close-knit community of military families around. We have 1 1/2 years left here and I'm trying to stay positive about it until we can get back near the water.
post #689 of 1125
Thread Starter 
Welcome newcomers! We should do quick intro's at the start of every new thread just so everyone can get re-acquainted

I'm Katie, my DH is a MI officer here at Fort Bragg, currently deployed until the spring. We've lived here for almost a year and a half and are looking at moving again in the summer of 2011. We're originally from NY but have lived in lots of places.

to those of you going through deployment. It can be so hard in the beginning. I promise you that as time goes on it will get easier, you're fall into a routine and everyone will adjust.

Adorkable - I'd do what everyone else said, try to get as much input as possible and try to plan activities that work for the group and at times that are appropriate for everyone. My biggest gripe with ours is that there just isn't a lot of contact and it seems like they've taken on more than they can handle.

Thanks, justKate!
post #690 of 1125
subbing

I'm Claire, dh is active duty Air Force, we're currently stationed at Pope AFB, which is adjacent to Fort Bragg. We have one son, Robbie, who is almost 15months.

not much new with us... trudging along, gearing up for the holidays. I'm dreading all the traveling. it's hard being so far from family.
post #691 of 1125
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to those of you going through deployment. It can be so hard in the beginning. I promise you that as time goes on it will get easier, you're fall into a routine and everyone will adjust.
This is our 4th deployment in 5 years. I find that it gets more difficult with each one. Even though dh's first deployment ended up being 4 months longer than expected when he left it wasn't that hard. However, it seems that with each deployment he becomes more disconnected from us. He hasn't been home long enough at any one time to make up for all time he's been gone so we never get back to being a whole family before he leaves again. This time he'll be home for about 3 weeks and then gone again for another several months. It's not a deployment this time but still far enough away that we'll be luck to see him twice during that time.

That's actually the reason I came searching for just such a group as this. I'm having a really hard time with the anticipation of my dh's return. He seems to have the expectation that everyone should do what he wants and give him whatever he wants because he's been in such a stressful situation. He doesn't seem to have any understanding of or compassion for what we've been through with him being gone so much. Every time we talk on the phone now (which is every couple of weeks if we're lucky) we argue about this. I think he's being selfish and inconsiderate of us and he thinks I'm being selfish and inconsiderate of him. Usually, I'm pretty good at not having an expectations of his homecomings. This time is different because of the things he has said to me. He just doesn't seem like the man I married anymore. He used to be all about taking care of us but now it seems he only thinks of himself.

That is somewhat understandable since he hasn't really had to think about anyone in terms of family for months and he's been through this so many times that it's like being a bachelor again in a lot of ways. I try to be understanding of that. I also try to be understanding of the fact that after living the way he has he won't be able to just fall back into the role of father and husband. I think he needs to take all of that into consideration, though, and make a real, concerted effort to get back into the swing of things. Instead, he says he wants to come home and have peace and quiet. Well, um, that isn't going to happen with 2 LOs and an adult teenager. Sorry but that's our life and it can't be undone. I've been seriously thinking that if he comes home and sits on his butt for the 3 weeks that he's home and expects me to continue to do everything for everyone I'll leave. I don't need another baby to take care of.

So, there it is. That probably sounds pretty harsh for my intro. I'm really not a selfish person. I'm just tired of getting the message that I need to make everything perfect for him without any consideration for me.
post #692 of 1125
MW, to you.

My Huz deployed to the middle east twice as a reservist before we were married, but thankfully the coast guard doesn't do a lot of deployments for active duty. Honestly I can't imagine how hard it must be for you, but I hope that you find a way through it. My Huz has a similar attitude when he's gone on a few weeks of school or training, and it is hard to feel like a single mom in terms of everything you do, but still have any emotional energy left to address the needs of a spouse. Let alone expect them to be a contributing adult in the household. I don't think you sound selfish at all.
post #693 of 1125
Thread Starter 
I don't think you sound harsh at all. It must be extremely difficult to have deployments so frequently. I'd recommend some type of counseling but it doesn't sound like he would be receptive to it, so maybe some counseling for yourself? I don't know your situation, but I don't think this is due to anything you did. I think this is a symptom from the frequent deployments. The ladies here have been an awesome support to me and I hope you can find some here as well
post #694 of 1125
Thanks, 2 Katies, for understanding how I feel. It's good to be able to get that off my chest without hearing the old, "but what about him?" stuff. Everyone else is making me feel like I'm not being thoughtful of my dh. He's in a war zone after all. Haha! At least he knows from day to day that he's still alive. I may not hear anything from him or anyone else for weeks so I have to hold on to the fact that no uniforms have shown up at my door. Also, they obviously have no idea what it's like caring for 2 LOs without a break as essentially a single parent. I still can't even go to the bathroom without an entourage. I'm really beginning to understand the women who've been in this for 20+ years and can't wait for retirement.

We do go to counseling. I go regularly and he goes when he can. He is very open to counseling but I think he sees it more as something for me that he can contribute to rather than something for himself individually as well. The counselor I'm seeing currently doesn't really help me much with this but I haven't been able to find anyone else. She tells me to focus on the positive stuff. That's all well and good and I do try to do that but I'm so run down. I'm burned out. I fantasize about disappearing, running off to be by myself with no other responsibilities. I also feel so lonely. Friends and family just can't fill that void where my dh should be.

I so want us to be happy and enjoy our short time together but I don't think I can keep from getting resentments if he comes home and just zones out. Thanks for listening to me whine.
post #695 of 1125
Thread Starter 
Anytime I hope you can find a counselor who will be better able to help you. You really need some tools and it doesn't sound like she's giving you any. And I agree that the "what about him?" stuff isn't helpful. It seems like it's the old-school folks who still have that mentality, I think the military is slowly starting to shape up and start thinking about families as well (one can hope, anyway). Some of the things I've heard seriously make me do a double-take. I think in general that frequent separations are much harder than longer deployments and longer periods of time back home because you never have enough time to adjust and get yourself into a routine before they're home and gone again, which means you need even more support in order to get through it. Maybe you can hook up with some ladies in your area?

I'm hoping and praying that we get good news about the upcoming plans for Afghanistan
post #696 of 1125
well i guess i'll jump in on the introductions...

I'm a Army Wife and we've had two 1+ year tours to iraq the last one ending in May. My Beloved is a Combat Medic and now also an Occupational Therapy Assistant, he is with a Combat Stress Control Team (Mental Health and then some) currently.

We are at Ft Lewis and thankfully i love the NW, he got moved here just for me and both of our families are within a few hours drive. I really appreciate what he has done to get and keep himself here so I could have some connection to folks i know. I have found Army life really lonely. without kids it is so hard to meet folks it seems

thankfully he and his unit really recognized that it may be harder for the folks left at home than the soldiers some times, at least they are are doing their job and are busy and like you said, MW, they know they are alive.

we have been wanting for our first child for 3 years now and actively working for it for 2 years next month, so that is our big hard thing right now. He feels bad that he has been gone so much and that it has made even harder something that sadly seems broken even when we are around each other. I tell him its ok, but often i get fed up with it too.
he is of missing my fertile window this month, of course, blah

As i sit here is in Ft Hood, he was already scheduled to go down there as a unit to help train 2 other Combat Stress Teams that are about to deploy, he flew down 3 days after the terrible shootings. i large handful of the folks in the unit he was going to train are now dead, more still are wounded. It is very convoluted down there and now they really are not sure when they are getting back. If he misses thanksgiving I'm going to scream. I have not had Thanksgiving with him in 3 years.

i have stepped up and taken on the FRG leadership to help myself get more connected to folks, also i think it has not been done well and i would like to see if i can fix that. I get along really well with the 1st Sgt and our new Commander seems good so i feel pretty supported in this new role.


It is so nice having this Military thread, it is hard to find other folks that are similar in both these aspects of my life. Some months i dont post a lot, but i always read everything and it is a bright part of my life
post #697 of 1125
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
This is our 4th deployment in 5 years. I find that it gets more difficult with each one. Even though dh's first deployment ended up being 4 months longer than expected when he left it wasn't that hard. However, it seems that with each deployment he becomes more disconnected from us. He hasn't been home long enough at any one time to make up for all time he's been gone so we never get back to being a whole family before he leaves again. This time he'll be home for about 3 weeks and then gone again for another several months. It's not a deployment this time but still far enough away that we'll be luck to see him twice during that time.

That's actually the reason I came searching for just such a group as this. I'm having a really hard time with the anticipation of my dh's return. He seems to have the expectation that everyone should do what he wants and give him whatever he wants because he's been in such a stressful situation. He doesn't seem to have any understanding of or compassion for what we've been through with him being gone so much. Every time we talk on the phone now (which is every couple of weeks if we're lucky) we argue about this. I think he's being selfish and inconsiderate of us and he thinks I'm being selfish and inconsiderate of him. Usually, I'm pretty good at not having an expectations of his homecomings. This time is different because of the things he has said to me. He just doesn't seem like the man I married anymore. He used to be all about taking care of us but now it seems he only thinks of himself.

That is somewhat understandable since he hasn't really had to think about anyone in terms of family for months and he's been through this so many times that it's like being a bachelor again in a lot of ways. I try to be understanding of that. I also try to be understanding of the fact that after living the way he has he won't be able to just fall back into the role of father and husband. I think he needs to take all of that into consideration, though, and make a real, concerted effort to get back into the swing of things. Instead, he says he wants to come home and have peace and quiet. Well, um, that isn't going to happen with 2 LOs and an adult teenager. Sorry but that's our life and it can't be undone. I've been seriously thinking that if he comes home and sits on his butt for the 3 weeks that he's home and expects me to continue to do everything for everyone I'll leave. I don't need another baby to take care of.

So, there it is. That probably sounds pretty harsh for my intro. I'm really not a selfish person. I'm just tired of getting the message that I need to make everything perfect for him without any consideration for me.
You don't sound selfish. My husband has not been deployed but we've been through a lot of separations (months long) for work (in Afghanistan as a civilian) before he joined the military and we always had this problem.

My expectation: Now that he's home, I will no longer be a single parent.
His expectation: Now I will finally have a family that loves and TAKES CARE of me.

What helped us last time was that I decided that the only hope we had was if I took the first step. I decided--screw it, if I burn out, I burn out, but I am going to be the wife he needs. I got us childcare to make love once a day in the middle of the day and at night had a cup of coffee and woke him up to make love to him. I had a ton of meals in the freezer and every meal was at the dinner table. I told him he could bring his computer to the table but we missed him so much, he had to be there. I just really, really tried to make it like I hoped he'd imagined, you know, hot meals, etc. And if he didn't respond, he got a back rub.

Honestly, it did work. Of course there was not that combat stress. I'm not saying it will work with everyone. But basically, I said to myself, I'm going to look at his return as my deployment / work and I will succeed if it kills me. And if, after a year of sex once or twice a day, back rubs, etc. etc. he still does NOTHING to appreciate me, then we'll take another look.

But they really must be suffering out there and while I don't expect to do 100%, I don't mind doing 150% for some time while he works up his energy.

(When I used to come home from Afghanistan, I would sleep for weeks. Just sleep. And that was not after combat or anything, that was just after regular work!!!)

I understand how you feel because I share that resentment. But it got to a point where our marriage was going to end, so this is where I found myself.

May or may not work for you guys. I'm thinking of you!
post #698 of 1125
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So, there it is. That probably sounds pretty harsh for my intro. I'm really not a selfish person. I'm just tired of getting the message that I need to make everything perfect for him without any consideration for me.
It does not sound harsh at all!

I didn't introduce myself - I am Melissa AKA Melly. We're stationed at Ft. Lewis right now. My husband is in the Army. He left in September for his third deployment to Iraq. We've been married for 6 years, have done 2 year long Iraq deployments and he's done the 1 year Korea thing. He's been gone for over half of our marriage! It really really sucks, but the sad thing is, I'm used to being alone now. I've never been alone with 3 kids before though, so this time around it's really hard. Sometimes I regret having a third baby so soon after having my second. I think if I had a bigger spacing between them, maybe I wouldn't be struggling so much now ... but then I feel guilty for feeling that way because I couldn't imagine life without my little baby!
post #699 of 1125
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it got to a point where our marriage was going to end, so this is where I found myself.
Yeah, this is what I'm afraid of. If I get enough resentment about his attitude, our marriage will eventually be over. There's no way I could do everything you said you did. I can try to shift my thinking so that I'm prepared to continue doing what I've been doing while he's been gone and include him in that as much as is reasonable without expecting him to do much. In other words, when I make dinner I'll make enough for him. When I do the laundry, I'll wash his clothes, too. However, I'm not going to break my back doing a lot of extra stuff just for him. It's very important to me, though, that he do things with the kids, especially since we will have such a short time together. The kids need him to be present for them.

My dh never admits that he has any combat stress. He always says he's fine even though I tell him he's different. He either doesn't see it or won't face it. I don't know which. He's not a bad guy. He doesn't come home and start ordering everyone around or anything like that. He knows that wouldn't fly. He does have a hard time transitioning from giving and taking orders without question to kids who aren't very good and following orders and question everything. I think if he just realized that he has some personal issues that he needs to work on, that would make a huge difference in things. As long as he continues to deny that anything has changed we will continue to have problems.

On top of that stress, I don't know what's going to happen during the 5-6 months that he's back in the states but not with us and what will happen after that. It's not clear whether the school he's going to is considered a PCS move or just a TAD. If it's a TAD, we won't have to worry because we'll still get out BAH for here and he'll get his daily expenses paid. If it's a PCS move, our BAH will drop significantly plus we'll have to pay extra for his living expenses. Going with his is just not an option. I'm not going to pack up and move the family to Lawton, OK for 5-6 months just to move back here, especially since we own our home. But, we're not certain he'll be able to come back here and stay once he's done in OK. He's hoping to get assigned to a different unit at the same base but that's not guaranteed.
post #700 of 1125
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It really really sucks, but the sad thing is, I'm used to being alone now.
That's part of the problem, isn't it? I get used to being on my own, doing things my own way (which is very different from the way my dh does things) and then, all of a sudden, there's another adult in my home, my space expecting me to do things differently. I was an actual single parent for 9 years before I married my dh so I try to look at the positives. At least I don't have to work. It's still just as lonely, maybe even more so, because there's not the possibility of meeting someone, if that makes sense. I'm in a committed relationship with someone who's rarely home so I'm committed to being alone a lot.

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I've never been alone with 3 kids before though, so this time around it's really hard. Sometimes I regret having a third baby so soon after having my second. I think if I had a bigger spacing between them, maybe I wouldn't be struggling so much now ... but then I feel guilty for feeling that way because I couldn't imagine life without my little baby!
Your two youngest are less than a year apart? Did I get that right? That must be hard. Mine are about 3 1/2 years apart. I had ds3 halfway through my dh's year long deployment. DS2 was then and still is now, at almost 6, very needy of me. He doesn't like to do much on his own. On top of that, I had a 16yo who was acting crazy.

I have planned something for my dh that I think he'll appreciate. I've arranged for us to get away alone for a couple of days. Hopefully, that will give us a chance to reconnect.
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