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Every get tired of BF multiples misinformation?

post #1 of 59
Thread Starter 
Gah!

Somewhere, somehow in the universe, someone has criticized the idea that twin moms can breastfeed. I'm about sick of people promoting the erroneous idea that it's just impossible to nurse twins. Yes, there are unique challenges, and Yes, for some moms it just doesn't work out. But let's not just assume that it's impossible and get an attitude about it, okay?

Ugh. Sorry, just needed to vent.
post #2 of 59
Yeah, I find it incredibly annoying too. I had a nurse at the pediatricians office sit down with me when I was pregnant and tell me how it basically is not possible and she tried for a whole day to only nurse her twins before supplementing and I should not feel bad at all about supplementing or not even trying at all.
post #3 of 59
Thread Starter 
Ugh.

I know someone who just a few weeks ago had the MD in charge of our local NICU tell her that in his experience, it (exclusive breastmilk) just doesn't work for twins and that if she didn't supplement with formula, the babies wouldn't grow.
post #4 of 59
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Originally Posted by christyc View Post
Ugh.

I know someone who just a few weeks ago had the MD in charge of our local NICU tell her that in his experience, it (exclusive breastmilk) just doesn't work for twins and that if she didn't supplement with formula, the babies wouldn't grow.
uh. . . how did they grow before formula was invented?

I read this morning that only (this was a study from a few years ago) 20% of twin mothers even attempt bf.
post #5 of 59
It's really sad and yeah it ticks me off too. Yeah it's doesn't always work out but you know what? You never know til you try. My pedi told me that he knew I would be able to breastfeed but if I needed formula he could get me a case free. I never needed to take him up on it . EBF for twins IS the best way and it CAN work out! My father was a twins and he was wet nursed because my grandma was told she couldn't nurse two. So sad .
post #6 of 59
I'm just chiming in, I think it is awesome when a mom nurses multiples! I play around on yahoo answers and there was mom on there EBF triplets and tandeming with a toddler!! I always wanted to tell her how awesome I thought she was she was doing, since most moms of twins dont try at all.

I'm just tired of breast feeding misinformation in general! My dads fiance just had twins any they only made it about 2weeks EBF and at about three months were completely on formula... It wasn't so much bad twin advice but bad advice in general. Since I gave suggestions different from the Ped I was crazy and of course didn't know what I was talking about. :
post #7 of 59
It seems like sometimes with BF-ing, it's not even Misinformation, as much as no information that sabotages BF-ing. Like when people say "they weren't getting enough and were still hungry, so I supplemented". I don't think people realize that there are times they "don't get enough, but that's okay, b/c the baby will suck and suck and put the demand on the body to create the supply, and then the baby or babies WILL get enough. We are so freaked out by the idea of babies "not getting enough", even if it's one day. And of course, when supplemented, the baby isn't going to suck and suck on mama, and the body will think it's producing enough milk, until a vicious cycle is created. I always just try to talk a lot about BF-ing ---
post #8 of 59
don't know about you, but my early efforts at bf were HARD, HARD, HARD!! I couldn't tandem, so I basically never slept. This turned me into a total basketcase and I really have very little memory of that period. I wound up having to supplement early on ... who knows why? I was exclusive by 3 or 4 months (again, who can remember?) .... but I'm just thinking, for some of these moms, they probably were not thinking too clearly, and probably can't remember too well now! It was a crazy time.
post #9 of 59
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post #10 of 59
I haven't had my twins yet, but will in about 2 weeks. But I have EBF my 6 other dc. I have to admit that I am scared to death of twins. I just dont know what to expect. Im afraid I will be BF'ing all day and night. How do I do that with 6 other kids to take care of? My dc were always long nursers, so it felt like I was always on the couch nursing, and that was just 1 at a time!!

Having said that..... I still dont feel that supplementing is an option. I guess Im just afraid of going crazy, esp w/out any support.

So how do ya'll EFB'ing mamas do it??
post #11 of 59
Mom2thhts- you will be on the couch nursing a lot! These are my only children, so I can't compare, but some days is a lot more nursing than others. Forget about trying "get things" done when they are newborns. I didn't get the hang of tandem nursing (at least w/o help) until a few months ago. Now we do it all the time. But there was a time when someone would eat for a few minutes, be put down and the other would eat for a few minutes etc. I don't know how it gets done, but it did. You are a hero for having twins and six other children! Hopefully they are old enough to help a bit around the house! If I was in your situation, I think I would teach the oldest how to use the crockpot, start laundry with the expectation of it just living in baskets and load/unload dishwasher. Most of the other stuff can wait. Just dim the lights when you are tired of looking at the clutter.
post #12 of 59
Seriously, nursing twins is not bad at all. It's like nursing a singleton only you don't have to offer both sides so it goes twice as fast. If you nurse them both at the same time it's really no more nursing then nursing one. There is more juggling involved but you get used to it fast, esp if you have an EZ-2 nurse pillow. I nurseded every 2-3 hours (usually more like three) their whole lives and we're at 17 months and going strong. You'll do fine mama!
post #13 of 59
I just ordered my EZ 2 Nurse Pillow!

I induced lactation so that I could breast feed my adopted son. I was pumping 12-13 times a day/night. And although we didn't have the success I'd hope for every moment of effort was worth the tiny bit of nursing we were able to accomplish.

So being able to breast feed my twins is something I'm so looking forward. I get frustrated by mother's who throw up their hands and give up on it. I wrote a blog post about this after reading on another forum a woman who doesn't plan on even trying to BF her single baby because " my pregnancies are just so hard on me". :

I completely understand it doesn't work for some people, but I don't get not even trying. (unless there are medical reasons not to).
post #14 of 59
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Originally Posted by DeannaK View Post
I just ordered my EZ 2 Nurse Pillow!

I induced lactation so that I could breast feed my adopted son. I was pumping 12-13 times a day/night. And although we didn't have the success I'd hope for every moment of effort was worth the tiny bit of nursing we were able to accomplish.

So being able to breast feed my twins is something I'm so looking forward. I get frustrated by mother's who throw up their hands and give up on it. I wrote a blog post about this after reading on another forum a woman who doesn't plan on even trying to BF her single baby because " my pregnancies are just so hard on me". :

I completely understand it doesn't work for some people, but I don't get not even trying. (unless there are medical reasons not to).
After working that hard to induce lacation, I'm thinking that nursing twins will be a relative cinch.

I had a hard time nursing my twins, no doubt, but it you stick with it it's do-able. I've seen most moms who keep trying succeed, even those who are pumping and bottle feeding the breastmilk have eventually gotten the babies to nurse if they keep trying.

Good luck! Mine are 10 not and nursed to 4 3/4 years.
post #15 of 59
I've been exclusively nursing my twins for 7 months and yeah, some days it's hard (like right now when we're moving and the twins are teething and my nipples hurt and so Daddy gave a bottle of pumped milk last night so I didn't fling my daughter to the floor ) BUT for the most part it's not a whole lot harder than nursing a singeton. That first 4 weeks was seriously like breastfeeding bootcamp. I did nothing but sit and nurse. I got NO sleep. Like, actually no sleep. I didn't like tandem nursing and they would often wake up one right after another until I was insanely deprived. I got cat naps! Plus I have four older children. It was really, REALLY hard but oh my gosh it's worth it now. Once they were 4-6 weeks old it calmed down, they started sleeping well at night, and I now have enough supply to nurse three!
post #16 of 59
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Originally Posted by ~Mom2thhts~ View Post
I haven't had my twins yet, but will in about 2 weeks. But I have EBF my 6 other dc. I have to admit that I am scared to death of twins. I just dont know what to expect. Im afraid I will be BF'ing all day and night. How do I do that with 6 other kids to take care of? My dc were always long nursers, so it felt like I was always on the couch nursing, and that was just 1 at a time!!

Having said that..... I still dont feel that supplementing is an option. I guess Im just afraid of going crazy, esp w/out any support.

So how do ya'll EFB'ing mamas do it??
aww, you'll be fine
get the older ones working hard

i never expected to tandem and i don't love it still,but after the first teeth clenching grossed out feeling had passed i've got used to it
and how nights go is that i have one to my side latched on/ ready tolatch on whenever they like, and one kind of horizontal. the one who is on top has to have a bit more consciousness from me to latch on. i turn at an ever so slight angle to get comfy with a small pillow wedged underneath me, and then swap over at various times in the night. this way i get almost as good as nursing a singleton type of 'sleep' : which is mostly enough to keep me sane ( open to discussion )

we had the prem. stuff to deal with, 4 weeks of pumping, really anti b'feeding input all the way along ( like: 'baby isn't gaining as much as we'd like' talk over and over ), poor latch, sleepy baby etc but we got here :

ez2 nurse is helpful. i'm very 'small and high' shaped, and it's not ideal for that - a bit of floppy boob would mean i didn't have to lean forwards so much but it's good enough for nak

our routine changed so much in the pregnancy the children were glad to have a more 'normal' mummy back; even if she is still almost constantly engaged. you just find a way. you're a mummy, you will.
post #17 of 59
I'm scared I won't be able to nurse two
post #18 of 59
applepie baby - i'm still scared!!! but we just rejoice in each step in the right direction and each drop of milk that leaves the breast is precious; however it is delivered.
post #19 of 59
~Mom2thhts~ - Nursing and co-sleeping with twins were my two greatest fears. I just couldn't wrap my head around how is was going to work. Honestly, it was pretty darn easy! I did have a couple of issues to overcome with nursing but nothing people don't get with singletons (my smaller twin was a sleepy nurser and had a short frenulum and both boys had pretty bad jaundice and needed extra bm to help flush it so I did extra nursing sessions and pumped a bit and fed it with a medicine dropper). I remember that I relied very heavily on my dh until he went back to work to help me position the boys for nursing. I didn't love the ez-2-nurse pillow but did use it a bit in the beginning. Eventually I found my groove simply using a few regular pillows combined with a criss-cross seated position on the couch - the football and cradle positions (combined - so the smaller twin rested his head on the larger twin a bit) worked best for us. I believe strongly that nursing is one of those things you just don't leave room for failure. If you let doubt hang around your mind then you're really increasing the chance that you'll feel like you *are* failing, whether or not that's even remotely the case. Plus it's very beneficial to be surrounded by people who don't doubt your ability to do it. I can imagine it would be hard if people were always suggesting you just supplement with formula or whatever. I never had naysayers (except the doc that told me they lost too much birth weight and that I needed to supplement which first, wasn't even true - they miscalculated the percentage lost and second, wasn't necessary - I never did give them anything but my own milk and they gained beautifully, particularly the one the doc was most concerned about). Look at the nursing twins galleries out there to get lots of ideas and then experiment to find what works best for you and the babies. It really is different for everyone. It makes me nuts when people insist that you HAVE to do it a certain way or you'll fail or go crazy (I was told I'd HAVE to nurse them together all the time or I'd go nuts/be too tired from the constant nursing. In reality, I was much happier nursing them one at a time).
post #20 of 59
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Originally Posted by shukr View Post
applepie baby - i'm still scared!!! but we just rejoice in each step in the right direction and each drop of milk that leaves the breast is precious; however it is delivered.
I pumped for Elora when she was in the NICU- every two hours day and night... it was so hard, but I needed to be sure I had a good supply for when she came home. She barely used a fraction of what I pumped, I had over 900 ounces in my freezer when she died.
So I know I can pump, and I will if these two spend time in the NICU, but the logistics of nursing two boggles my mind LOL
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