My Head is Spinning - Just Diagnosed w/a Goiter & Having Thyroid Problems - Page 2

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

Add Ioderal slowly if you are concerned, but please make sure you are covering you adrenal needs at the same time. If you do nothing for them, you will not get very far.
Paula

This bears repeating as one of the many theories (which makes sense to me) is that you will not see thyroid dysfunction until your adrenals have been completely overloaded for a *very* long time. However, I have no idea what to do for adrenals, really, besides taking my adrenal support supp which my ND gave to me. It's a subject I really need to take the time to read more about.
Regarding the Adrenal and Thyroid things you're taking- they look like they would be safe, imo, but I would likely see a ND or homeopath regarding them (just because I'm paranoid like that). Also, be aware that one of them contains Vitamin A, in case you're taking a Vit A supp and the other contains dulse, a seaweed and source of iodine.
They all appear to have zinc, which is great, but I would consider adding some selenium as well since zinc cannot be metabolized properly without it- it also helps to decrease thyroid antibodies if they're a concern.
Be aware that if your body is getting enough iodine, other halides are not usually a problem since they'll have no place to "stick". I believe the same is true, for a large part, with heavy metals though Panserbjorne would be a better person to ask about that- she's the one most experienced with it to my knowledge.

[PaulaJoAnne]

[QUOTE=JacquelineR;12940817] However, I have no idea what to do for adrenals, really, besides taking my adrenal support supp which my ND gave to me. [QUOTE]

Basic adrenal recovery is as follows.
Never eat anything refined or processed, especially sugars.
Make sure your salt is Celtic Sea salt.
Eat nutrient dense foods, especially liver and cultured raw milk.
If you are consuming grains, make sure they are being properly prepared.
And take Blue Ice High Vitamin Cod Liver Oil and Maca Root.
Paula

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

Eat nutrient dense foods, especially liver and cultured raw milk.

I'm assuming this advice is only if you're not allergic to milk?

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

I'm assuming this advice is only if you're not allergic to milk?

The general theme of animal protein is working for me, though I mostly focus on beef (and obviously no milk). It's weird to have cravings for red meat.

[truelife]

I just got the TgAB back and there are no antibodies. So now I'm sitting here with a goiter and all these symptoms but no answers.

Can you have thyroid cancer with no thyroid antibodies? I've looked around online and it doesn't seem that you can. That is my CNP's main concern (thyroid cancer b/c of family history) b/c I have the goiter.

I faxed her this article about Postpartum Thyroiditis, and she still wants the scan to rule out cancer and won't start any treatment until then. I understand she has to cover her butt, but PPT is EXACTLY what I'm going through. If anything I'm hypER right now, but I bounce - which is what the article talks about.

I'm making my list of how to treat the adrenal fatigue. How do I eat/prepare the maca root?

[neveryoumindthere]

I have PPT too Niccole. This is my 3rd time around. 1st time undiagnosed
The 2nd time I didn't show antibodies either for some reason.
I see you had a baby in Sept. so it's definitely still within the 'range' for hyperT. Thats how mine starts, hyper, then hypo.. hyperT is WAY worse
The brain fog is AWFUL. I used to have racing thoughts constantly but could never really say what it was that I was thinking..Are you losing weight despite eating tons too or is that just me :

oh i wanted to say as well, celiac/gluten intolerance is highly linked with thyroid disorders ..I found out I have Celiac about 9 months ago..this time around the PPT is MUCH less severe.

[truelife]

Originally Posted by neveryoumindthere

I have PPT too Niccole. This is my 3rd time around. 1st time undiagnosed
The 2nd time I didn't show antibodies either for some reason.
I see you had a baby in Sept. so it's definitely still within the 'range' for hyperT. Thats how mine starts, hyper, then hypo.. hyperT is WAY worse
The brain fog is AWFUL. I used to have racing thoughts constantly but could never really say what it was that I was thinking..Are you losing weight despite eating tons too or is that just me :

oh i wanted to say as well, celiac/gluten intolerance is highly linked with thyroid disorders ..I found out I have Celiac about 9 months ago..this time around the PPT is MUCH less severe.

I have always lost a ton of weight within the first 6 weeks of having my babies. I will hold my lower weight, gain, and then crash. Right now my weight is not fluctuating, but it's high(er) - with no change in diet. I'm 5'8", 170 lbs (high for me) and eating about 1800-2200 healthy calories a day. There's so much to look into, but adding gluten to the list.

The mind racing is killing me. I can't handle music at all, my two toddlers voices are killing me, and we got a new fridge and I can't stand the noise it makes. This all sounds crazy, and it's the center of many jokes around here, but I can't handle any extra noise right now b/c my mind feels like it's on overload. Rescue Remedy isn't cutting it, and homeopathic Sepia and chamomille hasn't helped. I have never been this miserable!

Thanks for reading all of my complaints - I know I sound totally pathetic.

[PaulaJoAnne]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

I'm assuming this advice is only if you're not allergic to milk?

If allergic as in ER type reaction, yes. If intolerent, the majority find that raw milk, especially cultured is completly non-reactive.
Processed milk is dead, hence the intolerence issues.
The calcium is unavailable, and the enzymes are dead, so the lactose causes problems.
Paula

[PaulaJoAnne]

One thing that contributes to the brain fog, is very high levels of estrogen, which is part of the cycle. Low thyroid/adrenals, high estrogen.
Have you noticed at O time, if you feel a little better? Or do you O infrequently?
Paula

[truelife]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

One thing that contributes to the brain fog, is very high levels of estrogen, which is part of the cycle. Low thyroid/adrenals, high estrogen.
Have you noticed at O time, if you feel a little better? Or do you O infrequently?
Paula

Yes, yes, yes! I do NFP and I have noted that a few days around ovulation I feel better, and it is literally the only time of the month that I have any desire at all (still not "normal" though).

I started taking PureEssence FemCreme on Monday (2 x's a day) and haven't noticed a difference yet, but I'm praying that it helps soon. I don't know what this means either - but I bled until 10 week PP with DD, and have spotted every 2 weeks since.

[PaulaJoAnne]

Your estrogen levels will normalize better if you are getting lots of Iodine, because the thyroid is responsible for making hormones.
Trying to fix the problem by adding hormones will only cause them to back up in the system.
Paula

[neveryoumindthere]

BUt is it a good idea at this point to take iodine if you have thyroiditis? Doesn't that give the thyroid a boost? Wouldn't calming the thyroid, with selenium for example, make more sense at this stage (if it is PPT)?

I'm still working my way through all this info too but that was just my take on it.

[lil_miss_understood]

If you are concerned with thyroid cancer being a possibility, the best person I know of to talk to on these forums is AfricanQueen. She's btdt and can tell you what her experiences were.
I noticed that you seemed concerned about it earlier and just wanted to jump on and let you know.

[WildIris]

NO NO NO NO NO! Do not do anything with Iodine yet, until you know what you're dealing with!

Your TSH levels and many of your symptoms point to HyperT... you could have Graves disease, not Hashi's. If that is the case you need to be very very careful about Iodine and even avoid it for awhile.

You've had TPO and Tg antibodies testing; now ask your ND to also order a test of TSI antibodies -- stands for Thyrotropin Stimulating Immunoglobulins. This is a marker for Graves disease. A normal person has no TSI antibodies in the blood. People with TSI levels of approx. 130% are moving into full-blown hyperthyroid. People with TSI levels below 130% are still going to feel miserable in a lot of respects.

I can relate to so many of the symptoms you posted. Two years ago I had the same exact situation, goiter and low TSH and many of the symptoms you posted. I never thought Graves disease because I had extreme fatigue and weight GAIN, not loss. But I found out there is a lot of crossover of symptoms and some people do not fit the typical pattern.

I want to post more info for you but have to go pick up my kids now. I will come back later and add more.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by neveryoumindthere

BUt is it a good idea at this point to take iodine if you have thyroiditis? Doesn't that give the thyroid a boost? Wouldn't calming the thyroid, with selenium for example, make more sense at this stage (if it is PPT)?

I'm still working my way through all this info too but that was just my take on it.

If it is hyperT, taking iodine is WAY off base since this boosts thyroid production and will cause a worsening of symptoms.

[truelife]

I just talked to my CNP and she said the same thing about the Iodine - avoid it all costs right now b/c we don't know what we're dealing with. She detoxes women who have heavy metal toxins, and with a family history of thyroid cancer and a child on the spectrum she does not want DD to have any additional risks. However, I am definitely open to the idea when I'm not nursing. I lived on a farm with a very old well, and then moved to a city where I constantly drank tap water - all before I knew better.

I am very interested to learn more about Grave's. The thing about Grave's is that I'm severely constipated (only have a BM every 4-5 days) and I can't lose weight to save my life. Again, I eat very well and was a marathon runner so I feel pretty confident in instincts and judgement about food. I would love to know more!

I didn't know the term for it, but we have been eating "traditional foods" for the last 5-6 years. There's really no artificial anything in my house.

I wish I could express my gratitude to you all. I feel like b/c of this thread I'm able to put some pieces together. HUGE CYBER HUGS TO YOU ALL!

[neveryoumindthere]

Originally Posted by JacquelineR

If it is hyperT, taking iodine is WAY off base since this boosts thyroid production and will cause a worsening of symptoms.

That is what I thought.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

If allergic as in ER type reaction, yes. If intolerent, the majority find that raw milk, especially cultured is completly non-reactive.
Processed milk is dead, hence the intolerence issues.
The calcium is unavailable, and the enzymes are dead, so the lactose causes problems.
Paula

Thing is, and maybe I just run into odd people, this has never been true of anyone I know. The people with problems with dairy are sometimes better on raw dairy, but they still have problems and usually need to be dairy-free for at least a while to heal. Dairy is so hard to digest, in the grand scheme of all the foods out there, that while it probably is true that pasteurizing it makes it all the more problematic, healing enough to be able to consume any dairy usually takes time and effort, at least it seems to me.

Either way, OP, glad you're getting ideas and it sounds like you've got a good healthcare provider to work with.

[truelife]

Does anyone have any experience with Reverse T3?

[PaulaJoAnne]

Certainly you do not want to use iodine if you are hyper.
Maca Root, since it is a food you can take for either.
Paula