Originally Posted by BethSLP
Here are a few quotes that I am talking about from the Koran (Qu'ran):
4:75 "The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan" & 4:91 "If these [hypocrites/unbelievers] do not keep their distance from you, if they neither offer you peace nor cease their hostilities against you , lay hold of them and kill them wherever you find them. Over such men We give you absolute authority.", 4:97 "The unbelievers are your inveterate foe".
If any of your women commit a lewd act, call in four witnesses from among yourselves against them; if they testify to their guilt confine them to their houses till death overtakes them or till God finds another way for them", 4:10 "A male shall inherit twice as much as a female", 4:34 "Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them, forsake them in beds apart, and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme."
Muslims also shouldn't integrate with nonbelievers 4:141 "Believers, do not choose the infidels rather than the faithful for your friends".
8:36 "Make war on them [unbelievers] until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme."
Bolding is mine.
These are just a few examples of what I found that concern me. As far as committing many murders, I would be more accurate to say "ordered" many murders.
The Qu'ran should be interpreted the way that Muhammad and his companions understood it. In order to do this, we must refer to the scholars of the religion who can give us a better history and backround of the verse.
4: (74) And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?― men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from Thee one who will protect; and raise for us from Thee one who will help!" (75) Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah and those who reject Faith fight in the cause of Evil: so fight ye against the friends, of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.
An explaination/ backround of this verse is in the follow site:http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=4&tid=11689
It will explain that this verse was reveled to defend the Muslims being oppressed in Makkah. I do not see how anyone can take issue with this verse when they have a proper understanding of what was happening in that time. Again, i would encourage anyone looking to really understand Islam and the time in which the religion came, to watch the movie "The Message" with Anthony Quinn.
4:89) Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace) or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you or fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you, not and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). (90) Others you will find that wish to be secure from you as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them Wherever ye get them: in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them.
Again this is refering to a specific group of people and situation:http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=4&tid=11879
Combatants vs. non- combatants:http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=4&tid=11899
You mentioned verse 4:97:
(95) Ranks specially bestowed by Him and Forgiveness and Mercy. For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (96) When angels take the souls of those who die in sin against their souls, they say: "In what (plight) were ye?" They reply: "Weak and oppressed were we in the earth." They say: "Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to move yourselves away (from evil)?" Such men will find their abode in Hell―what an evil refuge!― (97) Except those who are (really) weak and oppressed―men, women, and children who have no means in their power, nor (a guide-post) to direct their way. (98) For these, there is hope that Allah will forgive: for Allah doth blot out (sins) and forgive again and again. (99) He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah, finds in the earth many a refuge, wide and spacious: should he die as a refugee (away) from home for Allah and His Messenger, His reward becomes due and sure with Allah: and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
I am not sure what issue there was with this... please explain what objection you have in these verses.
4:10) Allah (thus) directs you as regards your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents a sixth share of the inheritance to each if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased left brothers (or sisters), the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases is) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-Knowing All-Wise.
This is talking about laws of inheritance. To someone looking at this the may say this is unfair, but if you take a closer look, you will find that in Islam it is the responsibility (and a very stressed and important responsibility) for men to care for the necessities of women including food, clothing and shelter. If a women works or has her own money, it is hers to keep and it is not required that this money be used to provide for herself- that is the responsibility of the male members of her family. This is why sons inherit more than daughters- because they have a greater financial burdun thus needing more monetary means to provide for the members of their family. it is quite practical and really a mercy and blessing for women.
4:33) Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their, beds (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all).
Again, this is not talking about superiority in that one is more precious to God than the other. It is clearly referring to physical strength and that men are responsible for caring and providing for women.
As far as Muslims not integrating with non-Muslims, yes it is true that we believe it is better to surround yourself with people who have similar beliefs and values as yourself. It does not mean that we do not treat others with kindness and respect. But in order to maintain strong community ties and personal development, we encourage friendships within our muslim community and make friends and alliances where there is common ground and benefit. You will find the same ideology with the Amish, Jews, the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and many others. It is not an ideology that is exclusive to muslims. You will also find many muslims have strong ties with non-muslims who stand for the same values and principles as themselves.
I hope this helps clarify a few things.