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We've had troubles with baby wearing from the beginning. At first I just waited until he was 4 months, hoping that he would like it better by then. He did, but he insisted on facing out, he likes to see. That worked okay until he got too heavy. My shoulder started to hurt after only about 15 minutes in a sling. So I tried a wrap. Forward facing in front. The whole crotch support thing bugged me. It feels like he is just pasted on my front like an insect, his limbs flailing. He has liked it okay though. I've been trying back carries lately. (He's almost 11 months now.) The first two attempts at a rucksack carry (with a helper) brought on screams way too soon and I gave up shortly thereafter. Then I finally tried this crazy wrap on you tube called "my favorite back carry with a wrap". Its great! It uses three diagonals.

Then I thought: Why haven't I tried a back cross-carry (or whatever its called)? It worked fine over the weekend. I wore a huge coat and put the collar down around hiss neck (I didn't get him on as high as I would have liked) and then it went around my shoulders and I rigged the velcro to keep it closed in the front. I figured neurotic moms would probably think I was abusing my baby taking him out like that in 30 degree weather. But he loves being out there. And my body heat keeps him pretty warm, most of him is under my coat and I keep tabs on the feel of his limbs and he was fine.

So yesterday I thought I'd brave it w/o DH. He helped me get DS on and off we went. Everything was fine. DS even made some happy noises from his perch. Then we got to almost the furthest point in our loop and I heard the beginning of the end. A funny noise and a back-arch. Moments before we had been bouncing about. When I stopped bouncing DS would try to bounce a little himself to get me going again. He was happy for a few more steps but then let out some more "ech"s and I had to let him out. Dr. Sears says just bounce them a bit and they'll settle down. I have NO patience for his unhappiness.

So I got him out. His face was pretty pink. He probably could have used a scarf, but otherwise he seemed okay. I tried to warm up his cheeks with my fingers but he seemed like he wanted to go home. So I finagled the wrap back on me so it wouldn't trip me, picked him up and held him in front of me with both arms, wrapped the coat around the both of us and headed home. He fussed and screamed and wanted to face forward. I put him on my hip so he could see better, but he just got madder and madder. I tried to kiss his cheek and hold it against mine to feel warmer and he didn't care. Arching, fussing, mad.

It took about 15 minutes to get home and he just got madder and madder and screamed more and more and even started up with those sobs that are so desperate they barely make a sound. It was terrible. I stopped a few times to try to get him comfortable. Considered wrapping the wrap around him to keep him warm but the time to take to get the wrap off of me just made him madder. I put my hat on top of his but it fell in his eyes and pissed him off. Most of the ground had snow on it and he only crawls so I couldn't really put him down. Plus he was cold, so he didn't want to be down. He nursed a little. Eventually I just took my coat off and put it on him and motored as fast as I could which was way too slow. I left our hats and my wrap in the woods. I held him as snug as I could and he arched and screamed and hated every minute of if but when I put him down he was still pissed. It was torture. It was the worst, gut wrenching cry-it-out crying, right there in my arms. I just ignored the burning in my fatigued arm muscles and kept trudging along. I'm glad I was wearing my boots and not my sneakers. I had good traction in the snow.

The dog stayed with us the whole time. If only she were smart like Lassy and could go get help. I worried the neighbors would hear him screaming and come to rescue us only to find out it was all my fault he was miserable. When we finally got home he still didn't stop. I stripped down from the waste up for some skin-to-skin (learned that in First Aid class for hypothermia). But he wouldn't have any of it. DH tried to help but couldn't. We headed for the down comforter and bed but DS wouldn't lay still for that either. (Should I have pinned him down?)

An eternity (a couple of minutes) passed and he finally agreed to nurse and settled down. I held his cold feet against me and they slowly slowly lost their chill. Its not like he was frost bit. I'm guessing his face got to that sort of painful feeling before the skin kinda goes numb and it isn't annoying anymore? He didn't know he could hold his warm hands to it to make it feel better and I couldn't reach. So he got mad and then he just got colder and colder because I couldn't hold him close because he was flailing so much. Poor guy. After he was asleep I realized my arms felt like jello.

He seems to have forgiven me though. He was just as chipper and adorable as ever at 4:30 this morning. Today my arms are quite sore. Now I feel like I can't go out unless its at least 40 and calm and I better use the stroller :-(. Sometimes I think I should try a Mai Tai. I hate the stroller, but I hate torturing DS too.

Do others go for walks in the winter? Tell me I'm not a bad mama?

You know, Sacagawea had an infant on her trip west with Louis & Clark? I think they spent 2 winters in the wild before they got to the coast. I wonder how she did it.
post #2 of 10
You are not a bad mama!!!! I doubt anyone thinks you are abusing your baby - I wear my DD on my back and everyone tells me I'm "so clever" to keep her "nice and warm" in my coat with me.

I walk everywhere with my DD (7months), since we don't have a car at home most days. We go out unless it's below zero. I go to the store or to the gym or whatever with her. Sometimes she's happy back there for hours. Sometimes she starts to get cranky when I'm away and honestly, I just hurry home (or to the next indoor place we're going) before taking her down. I know you don't like to hear him fuss, but for me it's better if she's fussing while warmly wrapped in my coat - and I can walk faster with her on my back. Also, I'd wrap the arms inside, but mine can get her's out anyhow. Alex is starting to learn to hunker down into me if she's cold, and your babe is much older so I'd think he'd get the idea pretty quick.

Maybe start with shorter walks until you both get used to it? 40 degree days are pretty rare where I am, and I'd hate to stay inside that much...
post #3 of 10
Not a bad mama...just need a little more experience! Plop a hat on his head next time, make sure he's tucked in. Things will go MUCH better! My newest munchkin actually loves to be put in her pack, then have me put my coat on over her (usually for the front if I know I'm going to put my coat on over her). She tucks her legs in if she's on my back under my coat (like if we walk down to the neighbor's house) and has fallen asleep like that twice (we've only done that carry three times with the coat on).
Really though, it just takes practice (and spot check to make sure that he's all tucked in and snuggly). You can do it!!!!
post #4 of 10
Jeez. Sounds like a screamy-attack. Even bw babies get those sometimes.

I actually bw both of my kids under my coat regardless of how cold it is outside. I just adjust the warmth of the coat. They've never been too cold, if anything, they overheat in there when I start really hiking (when my body temperature rises). Here are two different versions:

In a thinner fleece jacket or a thicker fleece jacket
and
In a thick winter coat
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post #6 of 10
My babe is only three months, we're in freezing cold down-east maine and I'm out with him all the time! 20 degrees is the cut off for me...30 if its windy. We both get bundled and by the time we get home he's usually warmer than when we left !!

Hugs to you..sorry you had a tough walk! DS gets fussy sometimes too when we're out...I just leave him right in his Moby and truck home as fast as I can.

Keep trekkin'
post #7 of 10
Don't feel bad. I'm sure he was fine most of the time, just ready to go home and was letting you know. It's always hard to measure their warmth. My little one loves being outside and looking around. We got a lot of snow recently and went for quite a few walks around the neighborhood.

I think for the most part she was was toasty warm with all her layers and my body heat, but I could tell that her cheeks were cold and getting red by the minute so I covered her head from time to time with a small blanket to warm her up. She wears a balaclava or thick pilot hat with ties and that keeps her pretty covered up except for her cheeks. It's harder to monitor their warmth on your back so maybe switch to a front or hip carry when it's really cold out. Don't feel bad and don't give up going outside. The fresh air is good for both of you!
post #8 of 10
I'm sorry you had a bad time. I don't have a car right now, so generally, if I have to go somewhere, I have to take the bus. I just make sure Emma is warm enough. I have been told that I shouldn't have her out but I just ignore those people.
post #9 of 10
Awwww... we all have days like that. It sounds like you might need more practice. And I would work on getting him used to facing in on your front. If he's used to it, then he won't fuss so much about it when you are out and about. I hope next time goes better!
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Originally Posted by VanessaS View Post
Wow, great winter bw coat! Details, please. I just got a Psling Puffer down coat on sale today, can't wait for DH to bring it home.

ElizaMM, sorry for your trauma. Don't feel bad! We've all had babywearing mishaps. I know it sounds insane, but you probably have to just keep trying until he gets used to it. Try circling home until you're sure he's on board.

Re. back carries, while DD got acclimated I would tie her as high up as possible so she could see everything over my shoulder. A baby who likes front-facing carries for the stimulation should love the high perch. Make sure all your crosses are spread and smooth so he isn't bothered by any pressure points and the tails tuck under his knees, not thighs. Or maybe something like the tag in your jacket could have irritated him?

I know the video you're talking about. Personally, I don't like knots over my chest and so was so excited to find a TBW thread and subsequently several videos demonstrating this, now my all-time favorite comfy back carry.
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