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[Panserbjorne]

please don't think that way. Your body has a way of protecting you. IF it allowed the weight to come off that easily, and there was no underlying wasting disease (you'd know!) and you felt good, had great energy and everything was fine...you just lost weight it's a good thing. It's when you experience extreme discomfort, or the baby does (rare if you aren't....it's still in your body as well) that it's a problem. If you have a very low level of endogenous toxins then it should come off just fine.

[LBMarie9]

you have given me a lot to think about--a lot of insights. I still have LOT to learn about allergies- i can see that.

wow--trust my body?! what a thought! I worked through trusting it for my natural labor--why not trust it now? wow!!!

that said--there were a couple things that maybe I could do to help--up vitamin B intake and magnesium. ---also--you mentioned that alfalfa boosts milk supply---would having alfalfa sprouts on my salads count?!!!
thank you thank you!

[Panserbjorne]

not really. These herbs would have to be taken medicinally for them to have that kind of action. Think infusions taken daily. That will serve two purposes: medicinal dosing and nutrition as well as hydration.

Yes, trusting your body is a beautiful thing! It's working for you, don't forget that. All the things we see are simply the body's attempt at righting itself. Taking away those "symptoms" is simply suppression. What we need to do is support our bodies and trust that they know what they are doing! Again, that doesn't mean saying the weight gain is great, it means saying it has a purpose and perhaps it's time for some regimenal changes and detoxification support. Two very different things.

If your body is reacting to something you remove it. If it's experiencing difficulty you help it. If there's inflammation you remove the cause instead of taking an anti-inflammatory. Respect and support is the name of the game.

[FireWithin]

Where can I learn more about this? About the toxins.

[Panserbjorne]

come to school with me!

Seriously though....there are alot of people that talk/write about it. WRT breastfeeding I'm not certain how much is really "out there." I'll take a peek and post what I can find.

It is well known and acknowledged though that toxins are stored in the fat. When you lose fat you release toxins which is why people sometimes experience that "plateau" that they can't get past. It's the body redistributing and regulating things. Once it has diffused the situation weight loss resumes. If you have few toxins weight loss (given the proper diet) shouldn't be an issue. If you have alot that's when you have trouble losing no matter what.

[crunchy_mama]

I guess I am just screwed up but listening to my body means I am eating every 2 hrs. I feel great though, much better than trying to eat traditionally. Or perhaps after I am off of my triggers things will change but right now I have not been able to find any combo of food that doesn't make me want to eat 2 hrs later. I am feeling better than I have felt, since I can remember though. Tons of energy and pretty good mood, as long as I stay off of sugar, grains, chocolate, eggs, gluten and dairy. We all have different paths though.

[Panserbjorne]

it doesn't mean you are screwed up! It means that's where you are in your process. Nothing wrong with that! WE absolutely all have our own paths and we would do well to always remember that. We can't ever judge things by what someone else is doing. Healing is about focusing on our own paths.

[changingseasons]

This is really interesting... reading this made me realize that I was at that point for quite a while, where I HAD to eat every couple hours. If I didn't, I went crazy- my mood plummeted, I became irritable, sensitize, emotional.... I just assumed that it was because I was breastfeeding and my body really needed that constant fuel. But the past few months I haven't had that constant hunger. Actually, I'm starving right now, but this is the first time that I remember feeling physically hungry in at least a month (and I went on a really long walk today for the first time in a while). Interesting stuff!

[Ruthla]

Dont assume that your thyroid is "fine" just because the lab test for TSH came back within normal levels. I forget all the details, but the kind of lab test most MDs order isnt' fully accurate- like it measures total thyroid hormone but not whether or not your body can turn it into a more usable form?

I don't know enough about natural remedies for low thyroid, or specifically what's safe for you with your specific allergies, but I'd recomend you research that angle.

[LBMarie9]

my DD 7mo has only peed a TINY bit in the last half day (and has been eating every 2 hours)--is that too little? isn't that a sign she isn't getting enough too?

[crunchy_mama]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

it doesn't mean you are screwed up! It means that's where you are in your process. Nothing wrong with that! WE absolutely all have our own paths and we would do well to always remember that. We can't ever judge things by what someone else is doing. Healing is about focusing on our own paths.

I shouldn't have wrote what I did. I am absolutely thrilled with my body, but it is not like any other. What works for me will not necessarily work for anyone else and vice versa. My job is to become an expert in me and what works for me. Right now I am feeling wonderful and have great energy- even been able to work out again for the past month. I am a healthy person, a strong person. I have figured out that when I eat every few hours it serves me well- I have figured out certain foods make me feel unwell. I would love it for convenience and money considerations if I could get by eating less and less often, but right now this is my body.

[FireWithin]

I would love to go to school for this. Learning is a passion of mine, probably like all of us mamas here. I would love to understand more and more about my body and those around me.


fenegreek - I didn't realize it was a legume. DS2 is allergic to all legumes. ugh. now I need to find a new home for my nursing teas.

[FireWithin]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

please don't think that way. Your body has a way of protecting you. IF it allowed the weight to come off that easily, and there was no underlying wasting disease (you'd know!) and you felt good, had great energy and everything was fine...you just lost weight it's a good thing. It's when you experience extreme discomfort, or the baby does (rare if you aren't....it's still in your body as well) that it's a problem. If you have a very low level of endogenous toxins then it should come off just fine.

So I had never read the work endogenous. I thought it was the outside toxins (which I now can label exogenous) that caused the problem. Or do you think both can cause a problem with health and weight loss?
http://www.asianonlinerecipes.com/he...atural-way.php
Off to research some more.

[Panserbjorne]

it's absolutely both.

[FireWithin]

Originally Posted by LBMarie9

my DD 7mo has only peed a TINY bit in the last half day (and has been eating every 2 hours)--is that too little? isn't that a sign she isn't getting enough too?

How are you guys doing today?
At the 3 month mark my supply dipped dramatically with my first. No one seemed to believe me, but it was true. My son was extremely hungry, but he kind of gave up on nursing. He would suck for a couple of seconds, pull off and cry. I ended up pumping for a few days and it really helped my supply come back enough to help him through it. Pumping didn't solve the underlying problem of nutritional imbalances, in fact my supply for my second was overabundant for many months, another sign of the same problem and then plummeted. But pumping brought us out of the danger stage of losing my milk entirely and giving him the food he needed.
I have been drinking a lot of my herbal teas (40% nettle), many recommended above. This is the first time in months I have seen my 2.5 actively swallowing when we nurse. He must be thinking Bonanza!!

good luck to you

[Panserbjorne]

Mama, that's very consistent with tongue ties. We often see supply plummet just as you are describing. The babe feeds passively and then the supply starts to regulate (your body hasn't gotten the message it needs to make that amount of milk since your baby isn't actively extracting it) and the supply drops. Upping your supply so the baby can get enough is wonderful, but I would still wonder if the reason your body isn't able to regulate properly is more an issue of the baby not having appropriate transfer....you know? Upping supply will compensate for that, but it isn't reflective of poor nutrient assimilation necessarily...

Just a thought.