I am torn here... Just give me one good reliable reason and I won't do it! - Page 2

[Yulia_R]

add to the mix a bit of rat poison to make them more natural
http://www.naturalnews.com/024872.html

and aborted fetuses are also 100% natural as well as foreign animal DNA. All natural :

[kangaroomum25]

The more you read the more confident you will become in your decision, then you may wonder why other people are making the choices they do.

here's an interesting video http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0

[loveyourohana]

Ok... more links for you...

Former NIH president...http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4086809.shtml

This link is my absolute favorite... it is long, but it is so inform.

http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_bl...fe-48866.aspx]
> > http://v.mercola.com/blogs/public_bl...afe-48866.aspx

Money says volumes...

Money speaks volumes... Katie Couric did a story... [LINK:
> > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Hw-Q23S_s]
> > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Hw-Q23S_s

I see you got the list of ingredients... so not giving that again... but that is what I have... along with anything else that has been suggested...

there is a lot of info. on this thread... dont get too overwhelmed on all of your reading, watching and learning...

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by mommybytheWord

Just got off the phone with the Doc. She said that she cannot break up the vax's. She said that they are "all natural". So I will have to do more research myself. I asked for a list if the ingreadients and she said she could only get me one list at a time. She would have her nurse print one off. She is giving me the info on the DTap first....

Are you serious?? All Natural?? I would run as far away from this doctor as you can get. There is nothing natural about a vaccine!!!!!!!!!!Don't trust the lists you get from the docoter unless it is an actual packae insert . The info papers they print off and give parents do not list all the ingredients! You want to see ingredinets go to http://www.novaccine.com. They list every single ingredient for every vaccine out there. I urge you to not do a thing until you learn more and I would not get info from your doctor. They rely on their info from the drug companies that give them the vaccines and most of it is just plain wrong! Very few have done independent research

[becca_howell]

Originally Posted by mommybytheWord

She does not want to do one at a time. She wants to do 6 today.

WHAT?! I hope she knows she CANNOT do that! You have to sign consent for EACH AND EVERY vaccine independently, not just one signature for all 6 <shudders> One of two things is happening. The law is different in Minnesota than in Florida, and I'm completely off, or she is bold face lying to you. I would NOT take my kids back to that doctor!

Stay strong! Don't let your doctor twist your arm with scare tactics or refusing to break up shots. You're mom, you have to consent. Grr... I h8 doctors that bully parents!!

[Eben'sMama]

You need to find a different ped. NOW.

And I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I don't understand why you're letting your family's pressure influence a decision you seemed to be okay with/sure of until recently. If my family questioned my parental judgement about something like this, and wouldn't let it go after I told them my stance, I would have no problem telling them to pound sand.

Vaccinations are a *huge* business. Yes, I feel that the government is kidding you by telling you vaccinations are safe.

[loveyourohana]

If you take into consideration that if a child is up to date on vaccinations, the school makes (don't quote the amount) something like 75.oo a day per child. They also are paid to have a flu clinic come in, by the Health Dept.

So yes this is a big business...

[mommybytheWord]

Wait, Wait... The doc I spoke to is not our regular doc. The backup we use. Our doc was on vacation. I sopke to our Regular doc, Who we LOVE and agrees with our lifestyle. She said that there are tons of "toxins" in the Vax's. She said that more people should do more research like we do. She said it is what they do not know that hurts them. For some the risks to them are higher than the Vax. She is totally ok with us not doing it. I do not think she even does her own children. Now to convince my family.... And my friends that think letting there kids play with mine puts theirs at risk. But you'd think if the Vax's are so useful than they would feel ok that their kids are protected. Right?

[peainthepod]

Originally Posted by mommybytheWord

Wait, Wait... The doc I spoke to is not our regular doc. The backup we use. Our doc was on vacation. I sopke to our Regular doc, Who we LOVE and agrees with our lifestyle. She said that there are tons of "toxins" in the Vax's. She said that more people should do more research like we do. She said it is what they do not know that hurts them. For some the risks to them are higher than the Vax. She is totally ok with us not doing it. I do not think she even does her own children. Now to convince my family.... And my friends that think letting there kids play with mine puts theirs at risk. But you'd think if the Vax's are so useful than they would feel ok that their kids are protected. Right?

Drop the backup doctor like a hot potato. If she's at your regular practice, have your regular doctor put a note in your kids' charts that they are NEVER to see the backup doc. She's a total quack. "All natural" vaccines? Now I've heard it all.

You are absolutely right that if vaccines are so effective, parents of vaccinated children shouldn't worry about their kids having contact with your unvaccinated ones. But people don't use logic when it comes to deciding about vaccines. They go by emotions and fear. They're scared because they've been well-trained to be scared.

Why are you discussing your children's vaccine status with anyone else? It's none of their business, not even your family's. Next time you can just say, "They've had all the shots they need" (not a lie, because they don't need any shots!) and change the subject. If they won't drop it, say "I prefer not to discuss my children's private medical information with you. Pass the salt?" You might sound like a broken record but they'll shut up after awhile. What else can they do? It's none of their business!

One last thing: you can always give a vaccine, but you can NEVER take it back. Once you allow someone to inject your child with the contents of those vials, you can never take it out of their little body. It will be with them always. In addition, vaccine-available diseases are treatable by modern medical means. Vaccine reactions are not. Something to think about.

Don't rush into vaccinating. Read, read, and read some more. There's no hurry, no matter how much they try to pressure you or convince you otherwise.

[Full Heart]

Originally Posted by mommybytheWord

Now to convince my family.... And my friends that think letting there kids play with mine puts theirs at risk. But you'd think if the Vax's are so useful than they would feel ok that their kids are protected. Right?

I wouldn't even be wasting my breath. Except to say, "If you really think I would put my children at harm. That you would think I would make a decision without fully investigating it first. If you really think that little of me maybe we have no business even seeing each other (or - then I guess you have to ask yourself what you really think of me as a parent). Tell them you don't question their choices or if they have done the research. Tell them to do their own research and then they can argue with you. I don't even discuss the subject with people because frankly its none of their business. They are my children, I have to live with the decisions not them.