Offit: "The Problem With Dr Bob's Alternative Vaccine Schedule"

[LeslieB]

The Problem With Dr Bob's Alternative Vaccine Schedule
Paul A. Offit, MDa,b and Charlotte A. Moser, BSa

The final paragraph:

At the heart of the problem with Sears' schedules is the fact that, at the very least, they will increase the time during which children are susceptible to vaccine-preventable diseases. If more parents insist on Sears' vaccine schedules, then fewer children will be protected, with the inevitable consequence of continued or worsening outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases. In an effort to protect children from harm, Sears' book will likely put more in harm's way.

Got this link from the NVIC newsletter today.
Thought it was interesting.

[nataliachick7]

offit is disgusting.

[just_lily]

The biggest problem with The Vaccine Book, according to Offit and his ilk, is that it is making people realize that it ISN'T all cut and dried when it comes to vaccines, there are a lot of things we don't know, and that people are beginning to question the "Vaccines are very safe!!!!" mantra.

I could write an article on the problems with Dr. Offit, but it would take days.

Did you notice that most of his "references" are written by him? WTF is up with that? I am pretty sure that wouldn't fly in any academic circles.

[In Exile]

Originally Posted by just_lily

The biggest problem with The Vaccine Book, according to Offit and his ilk, is that it is making people realize that it ISN'T all cut and dried when it comes to vaccines, there are a lot of things we don't know, and that people are beginning to question the "Vaccines are very safe!!!!" mantra.

I could write an article on the problems with Dr. Offit, but it would take days.

Did you notice that most of his "references" are written by him? WTF is up with that? I am pretty sure that wouldn't fly in any academic circles.

You just made my day! laughup:

I always wonder why in God's name is that guy doing what he does??? Why is nobody ever gently slapping his shoulder saying, aehem, there's a problem?? He must be surrounded by people trying not to kiss up or something. Gosh, how is it possible to be holding patents for the sh*t you're trying to sell-and yet be the head of yaddayaddayadda at the CDC??? HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE??

And yes, try picturing yourself handing over a paper you wrote- with forementioned references???

It's like talking to yourself a lot- we we all seem to do, but usually not for a living. Gosh. That guy is annoying.

But at least he's realizing oh my, some parents are exercizing their rights as parents- now we can't let THAT happen!

[In Exile]

I read the whole article-but I found the "comment section" even more interesting. But the time I read Gil Siegal's "Confronting free riding", I just wanted to bash my head against the wall. That is some seriously messed brainwork. On the other hand, more parents should read Siegals thoughts, more would recoil in horror-because I don't think we are THAT big a sheeple.

Very interesting read. Offit is not the biggest on logic, now is he? Just reading any "anti vaccine" person would know where to dig a bit...He obviously has not spent too much time with "anti vaccine" reading, or he'd be writing a heck smarter.

Although I loved the fact the many AAP members writing in don't seem to believe that someone HOLDING A VACCINE PATENT like Mr. Offit is the most unbiased person to talk about VACCINES. The dude has something to sell, good to see, other Docs are catching up tp that fact. Tell me one other government body where that kind of conflict of interest is "normal". The FDA and CDC seem to be their own government, scary.

[ShadowMoon]

Dr. Sears has a great rebuttal to this article on his website. I highly recommend you check it out...http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/

[applejuice]

I love it when people realize that even most pro-vaxers do not agree.

I think both of them are correct.

[just_lily]

Originally Posted by ShadowMoon

Dr. Sears has a great rebuttal to this article on his website. I highly recommend you check it out...http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/

That is a good rebuttal, thanks for the link. I just wish Dr. Bob didn't feel compelled to toe the party line and go on about how great vaccines are all the time now.

At least his references were written by OTHER people.

[1littlebit]

i like that dr bob points out the obvious. that it would be nice if more doctors knew more about vaccines then that they are awesome you have to get them and how to call a nurse in to give them.

i find most doctors are inexcusably ignorant about vaccines.

[peainthepod]

"And so you see, vaccines are perfectly safe."

"Where did you get this information?"

"Oh, I wrote it myself. Trust me--I'm a doctor."

*crickets*

:

[1littlebit]

Originally Posted by peainthepod

"And so you see, vaccines are perfectly safe."

"Where did you get this information?"

"Oh, I wrote it myself. Trust me--I'm a doctor."

*crickets*

:

ohh. he's a doctor? that changes everything! god talks to doctors directly so they always know what to do

[Yulia_R]

I hate Dr. Sears!

As mush as I was crazy about him at the beginning of our parenting journey (3+ years ago) as much I hate the guy now. He seems AP supportive enough which earns him a trust of AP parents, but at the same time he performs genital mutilative surgery on baby-boys as well as his views on vaccines makes many people think that he knows what he's talking about (we read at the time and decided as soon as we delayed it was ok to vaccinate). Kind of like a spy: gets you trust just to betray you… .

[rmzbm]

Originally Posted by peainthepod

"And so you see, vaccines are perfectly safe."

"Where did you get this information?"

"Oh, I wrote it myself. Trust me--I'm a doctor."

*crickets*

:

Tee. Hee.

[justice'smom]

Originally Posted by Yulia_R

As mush as I was crazy about him at the beginning of our parenting journey (3+ years ago) as much I hate the guy now. He seems AP supportive enough which earns him a trust of AP parents, but at the same time he performs genital mutilative surgery on baby-boys as well as his views on vaccines makes many people think that he knows what he's talking about (we read at the time and decided as soon as we delayed it was ok to vaccinate). Kind of like a spy: gets you trust just to betray you… .

I won't use the word hate, but I definantly don't like him as much as I used to. I bought The Baby Book by Dr. Sears for my sister-in-law and didn't really like what I read. So, with the book I sent along a few other books that I did like. I'm really not fond of his son that is on that Drs. show.

[just_lily]

Dr. William Sears wrote The Baby Book. His son, Dr. Bob Sears, wrote the Vaccine Book. His other son, Dr. Jim Sears, is on The Doctors. Could they make it any more confusing?

Is it Dr. Bob or Dr. Jim (or both?) that perform circs?

[Super Glue Mommy]

they sure have their patnies in a wad. I read the vaccine book and they sounded to be personally for vaccines, but as a practice for the right for a parent to choose. idk i didnt take that as an anti vaccine book at ALL. and that was not what lead me to not vaccinate, it just lead me to further research the subject.

[kiara7]

Just_lily,

I know dr. Jim does them. He was on the Drs. show cutting up a banana one day.

[spero]

Unfortunately, anything I would like to say about Offit apparently constitutes a UA violation.

[Yulia_R]

Originally Posted by just_lily

Dr. William Sears wrote The Baby Book. His son, Dr. Bob Sears, wrote the Vaccine Book. His other son, Dr. Jim Sears, is on The Doctors. Could they make it any more confusing?

Is it Dr. Bob or Dr. Jim (or both?) that perform circs?

I know that Dr. William Sears does mutilate little boys :. Not sure about the other Sears...

[phathui5]

Originally Posted by Yulia_R

As mush as I was crazy about him at the beginning of our parenting journey (3+ years ago) as much I hate the guy now. He seems AP supportive enough which earns him a trust of AP parents, but at the same time he performs genital mutilative surgery on baby-boys as well as his views on vaccines makes many people think that he knows what he's talking about (we read at the time and decided as soon as we delayed it was ok to vaccinate). Kind of like a spy: gets you trust just to betray you… .

I usually look at him the other way around. He's mainstream enough for "normal" people to read his books, but then he's very strong about needing to be responsive to babies, attachment parent, etc. It's unfortunate that he hasn't come out against circumcision, but he is pretty firmly for being kind to children otherwise.