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post #21 of 34
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Originally Posted by phathui5 View Post
I usually look at him the other way around. He's mainstream enough for "normal" people to read his books, but then he's very strong about needing to be responsive to babies, attachment parent, etc. It's unfortunate that he hasn't come out against circumcision, but he is pretty firmly for being kind to children otherwise.
I know what you mean. I guess I'm just very upset because we did trust him a lot (since he is an AP kind of a guy). And I remember DH and I reading his book (I think it was the Baby Book) and deciding that if he says that vaccines are safe than they really are. I would never trusted like this to a mainstream doctor.

As a result, my son got 9 shots (3 sets of three), which I wholeheartly regret.

As far as mutilation, he admits that there is no reason, that it's painful that its purely cosmetic and he STILL does it. How in the world does he live with himself?!
post #22 of 34
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Originally Posted by kiara7 View Post
Just_lily,

I know dr. Jim does them. He was on the Drs. show cutting up a banana one day.
That's disgusting.
post #23 of 34
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As far as mutilation, he admits that there is no reason, that it's painful that its purely cosmetic and he STILL does it. How in the world does he live with himself?!
There IS a difference between saying "It's not necessary, and causes short-term discomfort, but overall is harmless" and stating "this is absolutely harmful to baby boys and the men they grow into." Dr Sears apparently beleives the former, while many on MDC beleive the latter.

And as far as Dr. William Sears and AP, he's the guy who coined the term! You may disagree with much of what he (or any of his kids) have to say, but without Dr. Sears, we wouldn't be talking about AP at all. We'd likely be talking about babywearing and breastfeeding and co-sleeping, etc, but possbly by a different term.
post #24 of 34
Does he *honestly* fear those diseases so much? I can't guess that he does. It must be the money and power.
post #25 of 34
I don't like at all that he performs circs...

On another note: Sears in the Baby Book says vaccines are safe. However he didn't spend much time researching them and blindly trusts them as many doctors. I don't necessarily think they are all evil; my sister is a MD and thinks vaccines are wonderful. Yet she has no idea what is actually in there - you could say she's quite ignorant and has some sort of mental blockade to agree that those ingredients are bad. She really is the last person who would want to hurt children; she usually distrusts big pharma (she's in research and even turned down a pharma job for that very reason). I learned that being a doctor by far doesn't mean that you know every single aspect of medicine and especially not much about medication (after all, vaccines are medications).
post #26 of 34
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
There IS a difference between saying "It's not necessary, and causes short-term discomfort, but overall is harmless" and stating "this is absolutely harmful to baby boys and the men they grow into." Dr Sears apparently beleives the former, while many on MDC beleive the latter.

And as far as Dr. William Sears and AP, he's the guy who coined the term! You may disagree with much of what he (or any of his kids) have to say, but without Dr. Sears, we wouldn't be talking about AP at all. We'd likely be talking about babywearing and breastfeeding and co-sleeping, etc, but possbly by a different term.
I think that is exactly the problem many people have with Sears. AP is meant to be about the needs of the child, respecting those needs and treating every child you yourself wanted to be treated-not like "a baby" that "needs to learn something".

Therefore the purely cosmetic genital mutilation of male newborn is something the PARENTS want, for THEIR own reasons. Not because it is something neccesary and good for the child. You can't preach attachment and then go and rip of part of an organ- on a NEWBORN!

Talk about a hypcrite-that's my point with him. I will give the Sears Baby Book (always checking on what the latest stand on circ is, varies on each edition) because sometimes that's the only "counterweight" some people will read- especially those that get pressured into Babywise by some Aunt.

But I am personally done with the Sears Clan- sometimes I think, dude, if it wasn't for the Sears Name, nobody else would care wether there a Jim Sears, Bob or god knows what else. It's the family empire- and anybody who is too chicken to give up the holy cow vax+genital mutilation because that means actually taking a stand- see ya!

It's great that he coined the term AP-but honestly you can do without it. I am from Germany and only people with decent Englisch knowledge are talking about AP= yet, Germany is THE market for Babywearing products (all major wrap companies are there) and has a huge "AP" crowd with it's own board.

There are sooo many authors out there- Liedloff, Largo, Gonzales etc. Sears one player out there with one book- but guess what, it's not called
"the attachment parenting book" over there....

And people still are "AP". You don't need to stick yourself into that drawer to respect your child.

Again, the whole circ debate is a very american one- a lot of parents recoil in horror when hearing about RIC. The Sears Family kind of lost my respect- too chicken to come out and actually take a stand? (and lose some dollars in the process) Byebye hypocrite, because that's what they are to me.
post #27 of 34
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I love it when people realize that even most pro-vaxers do not agree.

I think both of them are correct.
Yup! I went from provax to antivax, and now straddle the fence. People like Dr. Sears at least get mainstream people to dig a little deeper, and not just accept the status quo.
post #28 of 34
it was the description of circ in the sears baby book that convinced by best friend she would never ever circ her babies.
post #29 of 34
i think some things are NFL and some things are AP. I think Dr Sears is AP, but he's not my "go to" guy. I usually go by API...
post #30 of 34
I called it common sense and human rights.
post #31 of 34
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Originally Posted by ShadowMoon View Post
Dr. Sears has a great rebuttal to this article on his website. I highly recommend you check it out...http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/
I didn't agree with everything in Sears' reply (of course!) but was appalled by how Dr. Offit misrepresented Dr. Sears. In Offit's myopic world, if you deviate a half a degree from the norm, you are an anti-vax Heretic. I seriously think that there's a witch hunt in the medical community against any health care providers who so much as question CDC doctrine.
post #32 of 34
They are both pro-vax the difference is I think Dr. Offit wants people to not question him or vaccines (he wants to be seen as the authority) and Dr. Sears is okay with questioning but hopes you'll fall on the side of vaccinating anwyay.

I think it's shameful that the man that coined the term (of course not the actions behind the term) AP mutilates baby boys, he loses a lot of repsect for that. Having part of your baby's penis ripped and cut off is pretty much the opposite of attachment. Allowing your baby to keep all of his genitalia is not a NFL or AP issue (although it falls in line with both) it's a Human Right's one.

The description in What To Expect........ made me question circ and it is basically pro-circ. Some people (like myself) will read the description of circ even a very watered down one and intuitively think that it isn't right.
post #33 of 34
Dr. (Pr)Offit needs to stop being taken seriously as an expert and seen for the corporate mouthpiece that he is. Really. I'm not a die-hard anti-vaxer (we selectively vax), but this guy is a joke.
post #34 of 34
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I believe that Dr. Offit has greatly misrepresented the overall message of the book as being ‘anti-vaccine.’
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Some of these errors are so erroneous, it’s almost as if Dr. Offit was reading some other anti-vaccine book instead of mine.
other? this cracks me up...
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