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So my latest attempt at keeping a baby intact seems to have failed. A friend is due in a few weeks as despite all the info I've given her I am pretty sure she'll have the poor baby circ'ed.

But I was talking to my mother this evening and got some interesting information. I knew my dad was born at home in the Rio Grande Valley part of Texas, essentially in Mexico with a midwife. I presumed an Anglo doctor whipped in straight away and circ'ed him or that he'd been forced to have it done when he was in the military. But my mom told me otherwise this evening. She told me he is intact, the doctor only came to sign the papers and he continues to be.

She also said her dad was intact. I asked her how she knew and she said she accidentally saw when she was little.

When my brother was born it was a given and she didn't know she could say no or why you wouldn't do it. It was presented to her as something that SHOULD be done.

So in essence we have stopped the cycle. My son comes from intact grandfathers and an intact father. So I am happy that is enough to make sure it continues. While I don't have control over other parents madness, at least it is as it should be in my own family. My mother regrets it happened to my brother. I just hope my story is common enough in the US for the numbers to continually drop.

BTW, as both of my grandfathers were soldiers in WW2 hopefully that will also help dispell the myth that it was required of US soldiers.

This knowledge helps me in a week I have been sad at my own influence as an intactivist.
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I don't know where the WWII stories come from. They are all ludicrous myths. The U.S. military never ever required or pushed circumcision on its soldiers. Some doctors might have recommended it as a protection against venereal disease, but there was no official policy nor was it widespread. I swear I think this myth must have come from the same people who spread the rumor that soldiers in North Africa in WWII or in European trenches during WWI had to be circumcised because of dirt and sand. Again, these myths have been thoroughly debunked. They are simply untrue. Foreskin diseases were never listed as maladies either in WWI trenches or in North Africa, and circumcision was never a widespread surgical practice amongst U.S. military doctors or doctors from any other nation's military contingent. I think somebody sent a letter to Manfred Rommel, Erwin Rommel's son about this. To Herr Rommel's knowledge not a single German soldier in North Africa had to be circumcised because of sand trapped under the foreskin. Because to my knowledge at least German foreskins don't vary from American or British ones, I think it's safe to say that sand or dirt under the foreskin were never problems for U.S. GIs. There was a very good article written on these myths recently. Maybe somebody can find it.
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I'm sorry you couldn't help this one! :_( I might be in your shoes if my SIL and Brother end up having a boy. (((Hugs)))

You make a wonderful point. If all of use teach our children about genital integrity it should mushroom out over time and rates will continue to decline.
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