Interesting use of foreskin in sex change operations

[tlh]

From a Drs.website

The new labia minora is made from the inner preputial (foreskin) layer and 3-4 cm of the outer layer.


Vaginas created this way have natural lubrication as well as excellent sensitivity.

[Mama Poot]

Originally Posted by tlh

From a Drs.website

The new labia minora is made from the inner preputial (foreskin) layer and 3-4 cm of the outer layer.


Vaginas created this way have natural lubrication as well as excellent sensitivity.

Hmm....mixed thoughts on this. First problem-where are they getting these foreskins from to do the procedure (nm I answered my own question).

Too bad the people the foreskins were taken from will never get to experience that natural lubrication and excellent sensitivity.

Do you have a link to this website?

[latinalonestar]

Mama Poot: I think they are using the foreskin from the actual owner for the sex change, meaning an intact male that wants a sex change has more to work with.

OP: This makes a ton of sense b/c the tissue in the clitoral hood and the inner labia is actually the same tissue composition as foreskin.

[latinalonestar]

Btw, I have seen the results of a circed man that got a sex change. They had to use the scrotum skin to create the labia. Obviously this would not be nearly as good b/c the skin of the scrotum is not the same composition.

All the more reason to leave a boy intact. If he ever wants a sex change he will have the foreskin to use.

[tlh]

Here are some links to the website.It has lots of genital and surgical pictures so don't look if you don't want to see them.

http://www.medical-tourism-in-thaila...ry-abroad.html


http://www.medical-tourism-in-thaila...va-perovic.htm

[needhelpplease]

Interesting. I'd heard of that before. I saw on a forum somebody asking if she could still have the m2f operation even though she had a tight circumcision, and in which ways it would make things difficult. I think she was a bit angry with her parents.

[eepster]

While this is interesting, and should be a perfectly valid point on many levels...

I suspect that if we brought it up with mainstream parents to be as a reason to not circ, it would most likely just make them stop listening to us.

[tlh]

I know most parents would laugh at the idea that their child might have a sex change.But most parents want the best for their children and the fact that the best penis is intact is the main point of what we are doing.Changing
the idea that circumcised is better than intact.

[needhelpplease]

I suspect that if we brought it up with mainstream parents to be as a reason to not circ, it would most likely just make them stop listening to us.

I agree completely...it's sad though how circ makes people suffer in so many ways, some of which we would never have thought of!

[Mama Poot]

Originally Posted by latinalonestar

Mama Poot: I think they are using the foreskin from the actual owner for the sex change, meaning an intact male that wants a sex change has more to work with.

OP: This makes a ton of sense b/c the tissue in the clitoral hood and the inner labia is actually the same tissue composition as foreskin.

Ohhhh.....oops Duh of course.

[BunnySlippers]

I saw those pics and WOW, is the result ever similar to a natural? vulva. amazing.

[Ruthla]

Originally Posted by eepster

While this is interesting, and should be a perfectly valid point on many levels...

I suspect that if we brought it up with mainstream parents to be as a reason to not circ, it would most likely just make them stop listening to us.

I could even see some parents seeing this as a good reason TO circ. Many people are incredibly close-minded about transsexuality.

[Frootloop]

Originally Posted by eepster

While this is interesting, and should be a perfectly valid point on many levels...

I suspect that if we brought it up with mainstream parents to be as a reason to not circ, it would most likely just make them stop listening to us.

I read the OP and my first thought was WOOHOO!! :
And then I thought of how, if this was brought up in our normal anti-circ speeches to mainstream parents, the homophobic/anti-transgender/"not MY kid!" ones (and let's be honest, there are FAR too many of them still out there), I'm afraid they're just going to cover their ears and sing, "lalalalalalala".

I'm definitely still very "WOOHOO!! :" (and completely amazed by this), but I'm just trying to figure out how to bring this particular reason up to parents without taking the chance of them simply shutting us out even more..

[perspective]

Originally Posted by tlh

I know most parents would laugh at the idea that their child might have a sex change.But most parents want the best for their children and the fact that the best penis is intact is the main point of what we are doing.Changing
the idea that circumcised is better than intact.

I think many parents look at their child and imagine a little future life for that child. Generally its probably a bit idealistic, and probably represents more innocent, and perfect version of a life they want to live. So there is no consideration for sex changes, or sex at all. They look at choices they have like being circumcised, or joining beauty pagents.

But on a side note I hope your main focus of this issue is not getting everyone intact, but instead letting everyone pick the path that makes them the most happy. Value judgements that take guys off one restrictive path, only to place them on another is not much of a difference. (Personally, I want me foreskin back! But I have had enough discussions with enough guys to say, thats not everyones view.) The perfect penis is the penis a guy can have control over. Any judgements beyond that are simply value based, and goes too close to doing the same thing thats going on in our culture now, just at the opposite extreme.

[Ron_Low]

My opinion is that there is no such thing as a sex change.

I fully support the rights of transgender and intersex people, but trying to make healthy genitalia better through surgery NEVER works. It is most certainly impossible to acheive a workable m2f on someone who has been circumcised.

To those who would like surgery to change the "gender" of their genitals I would say you MUST talk to several people who have undergone your intended procedure at least 10 years ago. You will not find someone without significant remorse.

Please enjoy what you have and let us love you as you are.

[Meg_s]

I know a transgender whose foreskin was used in his operation to a her. I was amazed when I saw those pics too.