Typically Men! - Page 2

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by sages

If my husband did want to get our son vaccinated I wouldn't just give in! I would make him read EVERYTHING that I have read. If he still wanted to do it (which he wouldn't) I would still say no!

Just reading your post reminded me so much of Kipling's poem "the female of the spicies" which I have always loved. I'll post just one verse -

She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity -- must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions -- not in these her honour dwells.
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.

The Law of Life! : I love that poem.


http://www.geocities.com/athens/aegean/1457/poem8.htm

Ugh.. I can't resist -

She is wedded to convictions -- in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies! --
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.

[knucklehead]

My husband says he trusts my research and did watch the Tenpenny videos. He was impressed with them. Also, he is circd but agrees it is barbaric and wanted to spare our son. God love him!

[rightkindofme]

Originally Posted by LeighB

Um...she wasn't saying that anti vaxers are wacko. Let's calm down a bit. I'm not the op, but I assume she was referring to certain sites that don't back up their anti vax claims with any science or really any hard evidence. There are several sites out there that I consider to be harmful to the anti vaxing community because they discuss a lot of conspiracy theories and whatnot. Anyway....back to the topic.

My husband didn't do any of the research and if I hadn't, I'm certain he would have done what the doctor said. Honestly, I might have to if I hadn't stumbled across a few stories that made me weary of vaccinations. I think he values my opinion a lot too, because I do a lot of research on things, even if we go with the doctor's opinion.

Uhm, yeah... this person understood me. I don't vaccinate my daughter because I know the science behind vaccines is faulty. I have a hard time sometimes when people ask me for references and many anti-vax sites reference a number of conspiracy theories.

[plunky]

Originally Posted by Ophelia

Same thing tends to happen with circumcision. Mom doesn't want to but Dad strongly does.

From what I have read, it seems like IN GENERAL, men don't research and question things like women do. To them, the doctors know everything, wouldn't give something that wasn't safe, and so they put 100% trust in the doctors, gov't, and big pharma. I know this is/was the case for me personally with DH. He's a LITTLE bit better now, but still thinks the flu shot is a wonderful thing so he gets it at his work (even though I've sent him studies with info to the contrary). He knows I do a heck of a lot more research on it than he does so I haven't had any resistance for quite a while or been bullied into vaxing like I was before.

IMHO, the reason men trust doctors more than women is that healthcare is better for men. Women are drawn to this website to discuss things like natural childbirth and the like, partially because hospitals just aren't safe for women to have children in. Women are taught that C-sections are perfectly normal, that episiotomies are standard, etc. Birth control is difficult to acquire, abortions are becoming more difficult to acquire, etc.In short, women don't have the support of the medical community. They are treated like vessels for bearing children only.

That said, it is logical for men to trust doctors. Medicine pretty much looks out for us. And since vaccines are not only given to women, it makes sense to listen to doctors regarding them.

[Arduinna]

Originally Posted by mkmoro311

It seems like a trend among my friends who are having babies recently that they do some research decide to delay or not vax but in the end go and vax anyway because their husbands strong opinion about it! This makes me wonder what is going on with this situation with Men and vaxing. Why is this? Is it because they are not carrying a baby for 9 mo so their bond to the baby is different? I really want to know!

More importantly, why are women just letting the men decide?

[mkmoro311]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

More importantly, why are women just letting the men decide?

I wonder this myself!

[brendaziz]

My hubby- at first- did not have a preference about anything at all. I would just tell him- this is what I've researched and this is what we're doing.
We're preggo w/ #3 right now and I asked him the other day- "What would you do if i decided htat I didn't wanna breastfeed this time around- that it was just too much and I didn't feel like it" and he said "i'd be really angry b/c we both konw that it's best and if you weren't even willing to try I think i'd have to put my foot down and not 'make' you, but do everything I could to convince you". He said the same thing about vaxes too- and this coming from a guy who had never known someone who breastfed or didn't fully vax until me :-)

I like that he's as passionate about things as I am. It's nice to feel like a team.
I'll catch him talking to guys who wives are preggo and he'll be telling them all kinds of things. It's very cool to see how confidant he is now when he used to just say yes to whatever was told to him.