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post #1 of 27
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So a friend of mine gets these little red spots on her torso and scalp. They itch. She's running a low-grade fever and feels bad. So you'd think she has the chicken pox. We'll she thinks that and calls the doctor. She's annoyed because adults aren't the ones who are supposed to deal with chicken pox. She sees the doctor and the doctor says it is definitely NOT chicken pox. My friend asks what it is then. The doctor says he doesn't know, but it is not the chicken pox. He tells her to go home and rest.

A couple weeks before this happened to her, her boyfriend got the exact same symptoms. He too was told it was not chicken pox and that they don't know what it is.

About a year or so ago a little girl had come into my office. She had these little red spots on her scalp that itched and she was running a little fever. The mom thought it was chicken pox and called the doctor. The nurse said it sounded like chicken pox and told her not to bring the little girl in because they didn't want it spread around the office. If things got bad, go to the hospital. Anyhow, the nurse calls back later and says that they went through the little girl's file and found out she had received the chicken pox vaccine. The nurse says it therefore cannot be chicken pox and tells the mom to bring the girl in. The doctor tells the mom it is some kind of scalp condition or something like that, but definitely not chicken pox.

So now I personally know 3 people who had something that walks like chicken pox and quacks like chicken pox but is definitely not chicken pox.

I'm watching chicken pox incidence numbers being reduced right before my very eyes. Now I don't doubt that they will figure out a way to give enough shots or put enough whatever in those shots to make the symptoms of chicken pox morph into something else that will become chronic, but this is getting silly.
post #2 of 27
Wow! Is there not a test to determine if it is varicella virus? How can they be so narrow minded?
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post #4 of 27
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Wow! Is there not a test to determine if it is varicella virus? How can they be so narrow minded?
There is a test, so I have no idea what is going on.
post #5 of 27
Like the cough that started out as a cold and has gone on for 3 mos. Hmmm nope can't be wc. What are we paying these drs for? Oh yea I remember, to give vaccines. :
post #6 of 27
This is the same as all those people who got the flu vax and then got the flu...it wasn't actually the flu though...it was flu like symptoms..

What about all those people with a measles like viral infection...give me a break
post #7 of 27
I can tell you for a fact that even if the chicken pox vax was given, you can still get them. The out break won't be as bad, but you can still get teh fever and the blisters. It happened to my son after he was at a babysitters that had them. She didn't tell us they had the pox, and we didn't find out till we picked ds up. Not to mention, X DH got the pox and it WAS BAD!!!!!! On DS, I was drying his hair with a dryer and the blisters were popping up before my eyes. It was odd.
post #8 of 27
Heh, sounds about right. Just like nobody gets WC anymore. just colds that last for months.
post #9 of 27
About 3 years ago the pediatricians at NAS Corpus Christi (a naval base) were telling parents that they could not diagnose CP in vaccinated children. Could not. Their excuse was that vaxed kids can sometimes get it, but it looks so different it's impossible to diagnose. Yes, the incidence of CP in vaxed kids is incredibly underreported. It's a joke, really.
post #10 of 27
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I can tell you for a fact that even if the chicken pox vax was given, you can still get them. The out break won't be as bad, but you can still get teh fever and the blisters.
Meh, sometimes it will be just as bad as if you weren't vaxed at all. It depends on whether or not it even worked for you and/or how well it worked for you. My sisters two daughters had it at the same time. One was vaxed and one not because she was only 12 months and hadn't had it yet. They both had mild cases, but the vaxed one had a slightly less mild case. It was funny when the ped tried to say it was mild due to the vax, then realized the vaxed kid actually had the worst case between the two of them.
post #11 of 27
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What about all those people with a measles like viral infection...give me a break
Exactly! A friend told me how upset she was about the non-vaccinating children who can spread measles to babies. Ironically, one of her children had a "viral rash" with high fever about 5-7 days after having her MMR (and the high fever lasted about 3-5 days) It was not "measles", according to her pediatrician, and she was told not to come into the office.

Our pediatrician says that the measles that comes from the vaccine isn't contagious, but it self-limiting. Could that be true? I would think there were be many more cases of measles than there are if it is contagious--but, maybe it diminishes in strength as it's passed along, or something.
post #12 of 27
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Like the cough that started out as a cold and has gone on for 3 mos. Hmmm nope can't be wc.
Well, of course ... 'cause if it was WC they would have surely DIED, don'tchya know.


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It was funny when the ped tried to say it was mild due to the vax, then realized the vaxed kid actually had the worst case between the two of them.
Snap.
post #13 of 27
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Our pediatrician says that the measles that comes from the vaccine isn't contagious, but it self-limiting. Could that be true? I would think there were be many more cases of measles than there are if it is contagious--but, maybe it diminishes in strength as it's passed along, or something.
Measles is measles and it's contagious...as is the vaccine itself. I would not bring a baby (knowingly) around a newly vaxed kiddo
post #14 of 27
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Measles is measles and it's contagious...as is the vaccine itself. I would not bring a baby (knowingly) around a newly vaxed kiddo
That's what I would think as well--I was surprised when this friend had her daughter vaxed, while she was pregnant. I thought the vaccine wasn't supposed to be given around pregnant women. But, I suppose her "fear" of the unvaccinated hordes giving measles to her new babies wanted her to ensure that her daughter was vaccinated prior to her giving birth. I also was glad that this little girl was nowhere near DS while she had her "viral illness".

Again, it was also surprising that our ped said that the measles that came from the shot was NOT contagious, leading me to think that many kids must get asymptomatic measles.
post #15 of 27
They did the same thing with polio--changed the diagnostic criteria so that the disease was underreported and the vaccines appeared to work. Anything to tinker with those numbers, I suppose.

But don't worry--non-vaxers are the ones falling prey to pseudoscience and sloppy thinking... :
post #16 of 27
it amazes me how doctors can think "oh they are vaccinated for such and such so it cant be such and such"

these people graduated med school?

I know a lady who started vaxxing then stopped. Her child got rubella and the dr said "see this is what happens when you dont vaccinate. Well, she HAD been vaxxed for rubella! when she told the dr this the dr then adamantly insisted it wasnt rubella and refused to test to see if it was. she had to go and pay out of pocket to prove it was in fact rubella, even though her daughter had been vaccinated against it. dr's have to cover their butts, that why they dont check!

and I too, worry about the "super bugs" that will be created simply so a child doesnt get measles or chicken pox or something similar (which when cared for properly is NOT a big deal. I love (not really) how they don't like to point out their statistics include people who are malnourished and don't receive medical care and/or have neglectful parents)
post #17 of 27
*double post* sorry
post #18 of 27
Yeah, my DD was fully vaxed through her toddler ones and was exposed to chicken pox last year. She ended up with one little, but very itchy, pox on her back. The boys never got it, so I'm hoping we can later of course.

Can't believe how ridiculous the Medical establishment is sometimes
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by Scattershoot View Post
So a friend of mine gets these little red spots on her torso and scalp. They itch. She's running a low-grade fever and feels bad. So you'd think she has the chicken pox. We'll she thinks that and calls the doctor. She's annoyed because adults aren't the ones who are supposed to deal with chicken pox. She sees the doctor and the doctor says it is definitely NOT chicken pox. My friend asks what it is then. The doctor says he doesn't know, but it is not the chicken pox. He tells her to go home and rest.

A couple weeks before this happened to her, her boyfriend got the exact same symptoms. He too was told it was not chicken pox and that they don't know what it is.

About a year or so ago a little girl had come into my office. She had these little red spots on her scalp that itched and she was running a little fever. The mom thought it was chicken pox and called the doctor. The nurse said it sounded like chicken pox and told her not to bring the little girl in because they didn't want it spread around the office. If things got bad, go to the hospital. Anyhow, the nurse calls back later and says that they went through the little girl's file and found out she had received the chicken pox vaccine. The nurse says it therefore cannot be chicken pox and tells the mom to bring the girl in. The doctor tells the mom it is some kind of scalp condition or something like that, but definitely not chicken pox.
Here's another weird chapter to this story: DH had shingles a few times as a kid. Therefore, it was his understanding that if exposed to CP, he'd get shingles. The year after we got married, he broke out all over in this red rash that was terrible. We went into the doctor's office because we didn't know what it was. They started grilling him on "why he was in the clinic when obviously he had chicken pox"--it took several minutes for them to understand why we would think it wouldn't be chicken pox!

(We still don't understand why he had CP. NO ONE can explain it either.)
post #20 of 27
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Here's another weird chapter to this story: DH had shingles a few times as a kid. Therefore, it was his understanding that if exposed to CP, he'd get shingles. The year after we got married, he broke out all over in this red rash that was terrible. We went into the doctor's office because we didn't know what it was. They started grilling him on "why he was in the clinic when obviously he had chicken pox"--it took several minutes for them to understand why we would think it wouldn't be chicken pox!

(We still don't understand why he had CP. NO ONE can explain it either.)
My friend had CP twice--once as a child and once as an adult. She has never had shingles. I believe that in some people, the body's immune response doesn't build actual immunity. But it's exceedingly rare for that to happen.
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