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post #21 of 740
Well, I'm (more than a bit) surprised at the duration of the diaper rash. But, what did you all determine about your daughter's remedy, since you'd used acute remedies. Did you discuss that with him?


ETA: I was 100% happier immediately on my remedy, no 'months to get better'. A day or two of aggravation and zippity do da. But, it was 200c


Pat
post #22 of 740
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
Well, I'm (more than a bit) surprised at the duration of the diaper rash. But, what did you all determine about your daughter's remedy, since you'd used acute remedies. Did you discuss that with him?
Oh, sorry... confusion. DD has a different homeopath than I do. I haven't talked to her homeopath (also our ped) since her first visit, but we have a 6-wk followup visit coming up soon. We were in the office last week and saw a different provider, who glanced at the rash and said, "well, that looks really good to me." Like I said, it's not a bad rash.... the part that concerns me is that it just won't go away. I have previously (before remedy) tried a bit of nystatin ointment on it, thinking it might be a yeast rash, and it did nothing. So I tried some B____ Butt Paste (not even going to try and spell that name) and it cleared it right up. But I've tried the butt paste a few times in the last month, and it does nothing. Or helps a tiny bit but then it just flares again the next day. I would call the ped (homeopath), but I would just get put through to her medical assistant who isn't much help.
post #23 of 740
Is this the same ped who thought the tongue tie thing was a bad idea? Isn't all that weight gain gonna be a shocker! And perhaps a learning experience.
post #24 of 740
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Originally Posted by TanyaLopez View Post
Is this the same ped who thought the tongue tie thing was a bad idea? Isn't all that weight gain gonna be a shocker! And perhaps a learning experience.
Yeah. I did talk to her about that again, and told her that I was a little shocked by her response. She just clarified that she wouldn't have done it just "because" (she's pretty anti-intervention which I like), but that if we're seeing results then she's thrilled. (And at that time it was only a weight gain of 3 ounces... just wait until our next visit!) So we got that cleared up with no hard feelings.
post #25 of 740
Thanks PB for he clarifications about 30c vs 30x. I am very excited to get my kit. I will be sticking with the 30C

So for the past couple of months I have suspected that Nat Mur is my remedy. It feels odd that I found it myself, and just a 30c dose. I have a couple of questions to help me clarify it.
If I use Nat Mur for a cold appropriate to the remedy, and my body responds unrelated to the cold, could that be a signal that it is my remedy. I have gotten a terrible migraine headache the first time I took it, along with much diarrhea (and other things I can't remember). Also, the chronic painful 3 year thrush in my breasts is mostly gone - just occasional twinges. ::::
(I feel strangely attracted to Nat Mur, and sometimes pop the pills without a cold.)
Recently I discovered I have a problem with corn. I get an itchy rash. This past week I realized that we react to our new xylitol products (for dental health). I am not sure if it is the actual birch xylitol or the junky stuff added to the mints. I will test it later. Anyway. . . the rash is really annoying and it took a while (at least a week) to make the connection, especially since I bought this brand on purpose to avoid corn. So yesterday, I woke up with a sore throat. Even though my illness is unrelated to Nat Mur I took it anyway. Last night I was sooooo itchy again, and irritated. : Then Aha! I realized I didn't eat anything. I think it was the remedy pulling out the rash. Also, my sore throat was gone. I noticed that I have crusties on my eyes. This afternoon I realized that I had a painful boil on my bottom. Never had one of those before. Remedy related?
So is it my remedy??? Should I up my dose, or just stick with 30c. If so, when do I take it again? (cell salt question in next reply.)
I have to say emotionally I am doing great. Feeling kind of happy weepy, really connected to my family and the world. (I keep on meaning to comment on the spirituality thread)
post #26 of 740
After DS had some asthmatic episodes I went to my Dr. and he prescribed 4 remedies for him to take everyday. He's been taking them since October. He said it was for healing his digestive tract.
DS hasn't had any asthma since.
Now if I could just get his nasal congestion a bit better he'd be a lot more comfortable.
post #27 of 740
I am trying to understand cell salt a little more, and how they respond differently to your body.
I read a bit, so I understand that the idea behind them, and their purpose are different
"The inorganic constituents are, in a very real sense, the material basis of the organs and tissues of the body, and are absolutely essential to their integrity of structure and functional activity. According to Schussler's theory, any disturbance in the molecular motion of these salts in living issus, caused by a defeciency in the requesite amount, constitutes disease, which can be rectified and the requisite equilibrium re-estabiished by administering the same mineral salts in small quantities. "
from http://www.hpathy.com/tissuesalts/biochemic-theory.asp


http://www.hpathy.com/combinations/b...mbinations.asp
The Last Word..
Although the proponents of biochemic combinations say that it is a seperate system and we can use combinations because there can be a deficiency of more that one cell-salt at a given time, I have some questions which should make people situp and think.
1. How homeopathic Natrum-mur 12x is different from biochemic Natrum-mur 12x?
2. Why is it that Natrum-mur 6c is homeopathic but natrum-mur 12x is biochemic? There is technically speaking not much difference - both are diluted, potentized to nearly same level.
3. When biochemic medicines are also slected on the basis of symptom-similarity, how is it different from the homeopathic law of similia?
Anybody who ponders seriously over such questions would realize that cell-salts are not an independent system. They are very much a part of homeopathy and therefore the laws that apply to homeopathic combinations, should apply to the biochemic combinations too.

I would like to discuss how they are used differently. Do you use them for the same reasons (even though the underlying theory is different?)

Also, how frequently should they be taken. It seems like the pills are lactose based. I avoid dairy because of breastfeeding, but have taken lactose pills from time to time. I would be willing to take a few, but not many everyday.

so many questions now, because i am getting ready to order my kit, and I want to include other necessaries. :
post #28 of 740
Thread Starter 
I'm going to come back later, but the difference in my understanding is in the preparation. This is super technical but basically when a remedy is made it is triturated up to 3X and then potentized and succussed where as the cell salts are triturated up to 6X so there is more material present. ALSO classically cell salts are in 6X potency. So they are solely triturated. In that sense even a 6X remedy is different from a cell salt.

This answer begins to or almost fully addresses all the others...but I'll be back.
post #29 of 740
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo View Post
Although the proponents of biochemic combinations say that it is a seperate system and we can use combinations because there can be a deficiency of more that one cell-salt at a given time, I have some questions which should make people situp and think.
1. How homeopathic Natrum-mur 12x is different from biochemic Natrum-mur 12x?
already answered to the best of my knowledge
2. Why is it that Natrum-mur 6c is homeopathic but natrum-mur 12x is biochemic? There is technically speaking not much difference - both are diluted, potentized to nearly same level.
absolutely untrue. The difference between 6C and 12X is non existent when it comes to material present. However the difference in action is very different. Potentization is a HUGE part of homeopathy. The biochemic remedies are not potentized to my knowledge. I will double check on that....but I'm relatively certain.
3. When biochemic medicines are also slected on the basis of symptom-similarity, how is it different from the homeopathic law of similia?
You aren't looking to induce an artificial disease as youa re with homeopathy. You are looking to correct a cellular imbalance.
Anybody who ponders seriously over such questions would realize that cell-salts are not an independent system. They are very much a part of homeopathy and therefore the laws that apply to homeopathic combinations, should apply to the biochemic combinations too.

I would like to discuss how they are used differently. Do you use them for the same reasons (even though the underlying theory is different?)
In my training they are nutritional and I use them as such.

Also, how frequently should they be taken. It seems like the pills are lactose based. I avoid dairy because of breastfeeding, but have taken lactose pills from time to time. I would be willing to take a few, but not many everyday.
Most protocols entail taking them four times a day. Cell salts are all lactose based.

so many questions now, because i am getting ready to order my kit, and I want to include other necessaries. :
That's the best I can do right now.....and like I said I'll double check on potentization (which is what makes a homeopathic remedy!)
post #30 of 740
Mammo2Sammo, I am unclear if you are self-proscribing the 30c Nat Mur, or working with someone who can advise you on dosing frequency. It is possible to take too often, and cause more issues.


Pat
post #31 of 740
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post

ETA: I was 100% happier immediately on my remedy, no 'months to get better'. A day or two of aggravation and zippity do da. But, it was 200c


Pat
I think in most cases it depends on the depth of healing needed, the impediments to healing, toxicity etc. The remedy will work on the most important things first and skin is rarely in that category...especially with chronic stuff when you have allergies and gut issues and the like. I would expect the remedy to go deep and start to work on the BIG issues present and then move on.

What you look for is the emotions to change, and if there is progress there you dont' tend to worry too much at this early stage if the rash is hanging around. I would expect a rash to flair but as long as other things were progressing it wouldn't phase me.

There are certainly measures that one can take to lessen the severity of an aggravation...but I'm not sure I'd call this that. An aggravation is the initial emergence of the artificial disease where everything seems to be worse and some new symptoms may even crop up briefly. This seems to me to be more like the logical progression of the healing process. Sleep is better, mood is better....things are moving. The rash will be dealt with, when it's time! I'm sorry to say there is not a great way to project that I know of.

I would agree with talking to your homeopath. You are asking good questions. He seems quite capable. I think you will see alot of shifting in the coming months!

All this to say from where I sit things are going really well for you. This has been an amazing journey. It's common when you see the benefits to want more, but you also have to trust your body and know that it heals in it's own time. There may well be a very good reason that you are still seeing the rash...though I wouldn't say that if you weren't seeing so much OTHER wonderful stuff. I think it is great when you are seeing the things you are seeing to start cultivating that trust in your body.
post #32 of 740
Ladies, this thread and the link to the other giant thread opened my eyes. An epiphany, as it were.

I'm at a loss for words at the moment, and have a *lot* to think about. I just wanted to thank you all for being there, pointing me in what certainly feels lke the right direction.

The interesting thing is, I had a horrible experience with a homeopath this summer. I was pushed into seeing him by family (he and I are vaguely related) and though he felt all wrong, I tried to go through with the appointment. However, we were interrupted (after he got some very hurtful comments in) and I chose never to go back to him or to homeopathy or flower essences or any of that. I was only going to trust my hands (energy healing) and food.

And for whatever reason (why, when I had already decided that homeopathy was no good?) I clicked this thread, started by a person unknown to me (or so I thought) and here I am making plans, thinking things through and wondering just how to approach this huge subject.

I don't think there's an emoticon with its hair blown back but if there was, I'd use it here.
post #33 of 740
Serena, I just stole your sig line links. Thanks!

ETA: our homeopath LISTENS, never lectures. And is non judgmental.


Pat
post #34 of 740
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Originally Posted by quietserena View Post
Ladies, this thread and the link to the other giant thread opened my eyes. An epiphany, as it were.

I'm at a loss for words at the moment, and have a *lot* to think about. I just wanted to thank you all for being there, pointing me in what certainly feels lke the right direction.

The interesting thing is, I had a horrible experience with a homeopath this summer. I was pushed into seeing him by family (he and I are vaguely related) and though he felt all wrong, I tried to go through with the appointment. However, we were interrupted (after he got some very hurtful comments in) and I chose never to go back to him or to homeopathy or flower essences or any of that. I was only going to trust my hands (energy healing) and food.

And for whatever reason (why, when I had already decided that homeopathy was no good?) I clicked this thread, started by a person unknown to me (or so I thought) and here I am making plans, thinking things through and wondering just how to approach this huge subject.

I don't think there's an emoticon with its hair blown back but if there was, I'd use it here.
I never had a horrible experience with a homeopath, but I joined this thread to watch and learn from those more knowledgeable with a healthy dose of skepticism, to say the least (despite having used a couple of remedies before to good effect).
I'm really grateful that this whole discussion was started. Words really can't express it. I've had one triumph already thanks to the ladies in this discussion leading me to where I've needed to go for so long. I likely wouldn't have listened if I didn't have such deep respect for them and I'm grateful I was blessed to get to know them. I have the feeling that they have changed my life irrevocably for the better.
I'm sorry you were pressed into something that is so intimate (imo) with someone who was (it seems) untrustworthy. I hope you find a homeopath you can trust, if you do choose to take that route.
post #35 of 740
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
Serena, I just stole your sig line links. Thanks!

ETA: our homeopath LISTENS, never lectures. And is non judgmental.


Pat
See yeah. I shouldn't feel like I need a therapy session after talking to a homeopath.

I stole the first part of my sig from someone else, but I did let her know. See, what goes aroud..
post #36 of 740
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
ETA: our homeopath LISTENS, never lectures. And is non judgmental.


Pat
Yeah. This sort of creeped me out about my ND. I'm not used to doctors that listen. And every time I ran into him around town even, I could *tell* he was watching, listening and weighing everything I said and did- not that he was judging, just... filing in his little mental cabinet.
post #37 of 740
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Originally Posted by WuWei View Post
Mammo2Sammo, I am unclear if you are self-proscribing the 30c Nat Mur, or working with someone who can advise you on dosing frequency. It is possible to take too often, and cause more issues.


Pat
Thanks WuWei for pointing this out. No I am not seeing anyone, I am still trying to find someone here for myself and the boys.
I agree with over dosing. I have taken about one every two weeks. I am hoping to see a homeopath within the next two weeks (or at least find one)

I learned about taking too much, the first time I gave DS2 an acute remedy. I followed the directions, every two hours for the first 6 hours. DS2 started getting a stronger illness. I was giving him too much. WHen I let up, he got better quickly. At least that is my understanding of what happened. Soon after this, I started reading books about homeopathy (just started in December), and now I have a better understanding.
post #38 of 740
Panserbjorne - thanks for your info. You helped clarify things for me, and helped me get a better appreciation.
I am still not sure if I will use it, because of our lactose issues, and DS is over-reacting to many things right now. (I am suspecting chicken now). I don't want to intentionally upset his system.
post #39 of 740
Thread Starter 
Pat....I just came across this:
"regarding warnings of mint as an antidote:
In Hahnemann's day, water had to be brought into Leipzig from
outside the walled city. It was not available for washing. The sewers ran
open in the streets. People ate & smeared themselves with tremendous
amounts of mint in order to be socially presentable
It is hardly comparable to daily use of Tom's spearmint toothpaste."

And then, this:
http://www.homeoint.org/books2/curiepra/chap9.htm

You can see that some remedies will be affected by mint more than others...or in your case by chamomile!
post #40 of 740
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post

You can see that some remedies will be affected by mint more than others...or in your case by chamomile!
Fascinating. Thanks for the link, too.

Pat
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