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post #21 of 33
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Originally Posted by hparsh View Post
My daycare has let DS feed himself in a bouncer since about 8 months, when he was able to hold the bottle himself. I didn't realize that was not normal.
What kind of a bouncer can safely hold an 8 month old? I've found that by 5-6 months most babies can't even safely be in a bouncer. They try to sit up or lean over the edge or use their feet to push back. All of which could end up with them flipping out of it and falling down. Once they do any of those the first time, they're out of the bouncer for good. Same with the swing. I once had a baby who was about 9 months old in a swing. She's a petite little thing and loves the swing. I turned around to change a diaper and when I turned back she was turned out (on her belly) looking over the back of the swing! She somehow managed to squirm out of the belt (which was tight on her, but she's so skinny she still managed it somehow). Talk about a heart attack. She's never been in the swing since, and I warned mom who took her swing down too.

But that was way off topic. LOL!

We've also had parents who only let their babies feed themselves (we're talking 6-10 month old babies). Or they prop them in carseats/swings/etc. We have one baby right now who will NOT eat a bottle if you are holding her. Mom says she only eats in the carseat. The law says I cannot put the baby in the carseat to feed her. What to do? We struggle everyday and get a few ounces in her (along with her solid foods and she will drink a juice box so she has some liquids). I know about what time mom picks her up so I have a bottle warmed and ready and mom puts her in the carseat and gives her the bottle. That's the best I can do.
post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by StephandOwen View Post
What kind of a bouncer can safely hold an 8 month old? I've found that by 5-6 months most babies can't even safely be in a bouncer. They try to sit up or lean over the edge or use their feet to push back. All of which could end up with them flipping out of it and falling down. Once they do any of those the first time, they're out of the bouncer for good. Same with the swing. I once had a baby who was about 9 months old in a swing. She's a petite little thing and loves the swing. I turned around to change a diaper and when I turned back she was turned out (on her belly) looking over the back of the swing! She somehow managed to squirm out of the belt (which was tight on her, but she's so skinny she still managed it somehow). Talk about a heart attack. She's never been in the swing since, and I warned mom who took her swing down too.

But that was way off topic. LOL!

We've also had parents who only let their babies feed themselves (we're talking 6-10 month old babies). Or they prop them in carseats/swings/etc. We have one baby right now who will NOT eat a bottle if you are holding her. Mom says she only eats in the carseat. The law says I cannot put the baby in the carseat to feed her. What to do? We struggle everyday and get a few ounces in her (along with her solid foods and she will drink a juice box so she has some liquids). I know about what time mom picks her up so I have a bottle warmed and ready and mom puts her in the carseat and gives her the bottle. That's the best I can do.
These bouncers are larger. Some rotate to recline at different angles. I don't know how to describe and I'm not sure where they got them, but they look kind of old. They also bounce DS to sleep in it, which I said was okay, since I don't want him to CIO in the crib (he does not sleep in a crib at home and needs to be rocked or nursed to sleep).

So is that unusual that they let him feed himself? They usually sit near them and watch them. Should I be PO'ed?
post #23 of 33
The Fisher-Price Infant-to-Toddler Rocker is a bouncer that older/ bigger babies can sit in- goes up to 35 pounds.
post #24 of 33
Mama I read this and I had to respond. My heart goes out to you, it really does. I have no advice for you. I am not one to take on watching other children but if you lived closer I would watch your girl and HOLD her while she eats. What a sad situation. I hope your daycare listens to you. What a beautiful name for your daughter, BTW.
post #25 of 33
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Originally Posted by Mama Poot View Post

What on earth do I do if they DARE to let this happen again???
find another daycare, if at all possible. a quality place should not be doing this. they should really be holding all the babies when they get bottles anyway!!

i would definitely be furious--you have every right to be!!!
post #26 of 33
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Originally Posted by lolar2 View Post
At our daycare, even the babies who hold their own bottles, get held while they drink them.
i already posted but re-read the thread. i wanted to say that at our daycare, all the babies are fed their bottles by the DCPs. usually held, but sometimes in a bouncer or swing, but they are attended and fed and when they're done, the DCP takes the bottle away so there's no spillage. i've seen one DCP feeding two babes at a time, one in her lap, one in a swing. i mean, really, it wouldn't be hard for them to feed fleur!

i see you're saying you can't find a different daycare. i would just tell them, "i want you to hold fleur when you give her her bottle. i'd appreciate that." and then if they still don't, i'd look up the law in your state regarding this, and if it's on your side, let them know!!!
post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by crazydiamond View Post
Wow, to be honest not holding bottles is huge red flag to me. I would not stand for that, especially because in my state (and most other states) it is illegal for day care providers to prop bottles. All babies must be held when being fed, even if they can hold their own bottles!!

I don't know your situation, but given you've only been there 2 weeks and already having such huge problems. . I think I'd pull her out and look for better care. I'd be thinking "if they are lazy with this, what else are they lazy about?".
thats how it was at the center i worked at too. even if it was just an 11 month old sitting in your lap holding his own bottle, we still didnt leave them alone
post #28 of 33
Thread Starter 
They all apologized today. I explained to the classroom aids about pumping and all of that. So I guess we'll see if they'll be more on top of things from now on. Hopefully nothing will happen again.
post #29 of 33
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
What kind of bottles are you using?

First of all, I'd start putting less milk in each bottle, so she's not as likely to drink a little, get filled up, and then want to play with the bottle.

Secondly, you might want to see if maybe a different kind of bottle is easier for her to drink from. Are you 100% sure they're making her self-feed and that's why it's spilling? Could it be that it's dribbling out of her mouth because it's too fast a flow or a hard shape for her to drink or something like that?

Thirdly- is this on-campus daycare free for students, or are you paying to use it? If it's free, I 100% understand that there might not be ANY money in the budget to pay for childcare.
However, if you're paying for this, you might want to try and find another student who can babysit for your DD while you're in class. It may not end up costing much more, and you can have much more control over the childcare quality (ie: you can fire the sitter if they don't follow your orders.) You can put up signs on campus looking for a babysitter.
I'm using Playtex nursers.

They weren't propping her bottle and leaving her alone. What they were doing was putting her in the swing and holding the bottle for her, but they told me the milk would dribble out and she didn't seem interested. So instead of taking the bottle away and putting it back in the fridge, they gave it to Fleur and let her play with it and all the milk ran out onto her clothes! She just thinks its a toy and doesn't understand that its for eating.

The daycare is not free. I receive assistance from Job and Family Services for child care, but with three kids going, I still have to pay a hefty chunk of money every month. I had to take out a student loan this semester to pay for it because there would not be any money in the budget for childcare otherwise.

There is hope if problems continue, however. My dad might very well be losing his job, and he said if that happens he will come up in the mornings to watch the kids while I go to class. Obviously I don't want my dad to lose his job, but it would be a much better situation for us, especially for little Fleur.
post #30 of 33
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Originally Posted by hparsh View Post
These bouncers are larger. Some rotate to recline at different angles. I don't know how to describe and I'm not sure where they got them, but they look kind of old. They also bounce DS to sleep in it, which I said was okay, since I don't want him to CIO in the crib (he does not sleep in a crib at home and needs to be rocked or nursed to sleep).

So is that unusual that they let him feed himself? They usually sit near them and watch them. Should I be PO'ed?
Only be PO'ed if you have a problem with it Some parents really don't care if baby is in a bouncer eating, some do. I would say if they are sitting near and watching him it isn't as bad as if they are putting him in it and walking away (I saw this happen ONCE at our daycare, a new employee put a bouncer in the babies crib, baby in the bouncer, bottle propped with a blanket. I corrected her, took baby out and fed him, and let her know that's not acceptable. She called in the next day and quit ). I would still prefer, for my child, to be held. But that's just my child (who, incidentally, was never in a daycare as an infant so it was a non-issue).

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Originally Posted by lolar2 View Post
The Fisher-Price Infant-to-Toddler Rocker is a bouncer that older/ bigger babies can sit in- goes up to 35 pounds.
I forgot about that one. DS had one when he was little. He learned to stand up and rock early on. It got taken away quickly after that. LOL!
post #31 of 33
Since you are in ohio, it is illegal for the DCP's to prop your daughter's bottle for her:
http://emanuals.odjfs.state.oh.us/em...&version=8.0.0

I had to do some searching, but I found it. The regulation itself states:


5101:2-12-41 Infant Feeding Requirements in Licensed Child Care Centers

CCMTL 82

Effective Date: September 1, 2007

Most Current Prior Effective Date: April 1, 2003

(A) Center policies and practices shall support parent preferences in infant feeding, including breastfeeding and shall recognize the center for disease control's determination that handling and storage of breast milk does not require the use of universal precautions and that breast milk is not considered a biohazard. Center policies and practices shall also support the introduction of solid foods as long as developmentally appropriate and not detrimental to the health of the child.

(B) Each infant shall be removed from his or her crib for all feedings. Infants shall be held or fed sitting up for bottle feedings. At no time shall a bottle be propped for an infant.


So they have to hold her and her bottle if she cannot hold it herself, period.
post #32 of 33
thats a little different i guess, but not much better. i would ask them about their re-feeding regulations though. we were only able to keep a bottle for an hour after it had been started. we could re offer it in that time, but then we had to dump it out, even if there was only an oz gone. if they have to do something similar, it wouldnt help much that shes only eating some of it.

how big are the bottles you are sending? maybe since shes not eating much at once, try sending in a bunch of like 2 oz bottles instead of fewer bigger ones (if thats what you do) that way, if she doesnt eat much, or if she plays and it dribbles out everywhere, only a little will be lost. but if she eats it and wants more, they can just warm up another bottle
post #33 of 33
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Originally Posted by Mama Poot View Post
I'm using Playtex nursers.

They weren't propping her bottle and leaving her alone. What they were doing was putting her in the swing and holding the bottle for her, but they told me the milk would dribble out and she didn't seem interested. So instead of taking the bottle away and putting it back in the fridge, they gave it to Fleur and let her play with it and all the milk ran out onto her clothes! She just thinks its a toy and doesn't understand that its for eating.

The daycare is not free. I receive assistance from Job and Family Services for child care, but with three kids going, I still have to pay a hefty chunk of money every month. I had to take out a student loan this semester to pay for it because there would not be any money in the budget for childcare otherwise.

There is hope if problems continue, however. My dad might very well be losing his job, and he said if that happens he will come up in the mornings to watch the kids while I go to class. Obviously I don't want my dad to lose his job, but it would be a much better situation for us, especially for little Fleur.
Is Fleur able to drink from a cup. This is an awesome sippy cup. no matter how much my DS shook it or wore it around his wrist like a bangle, it would not leak. Just enough milk come out at a time for the child to swallow.
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