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post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi

I am planning on taking my youngest DS out of school after the Easter holidays for an initial 12 week period to see how we felt. I had a meeting with ex and his wife recently to discuss the plans and general philosophies with them. Although my ex stated that he has nothing against home ed and that he would be fine with this as long as he knew they were learning and that the learning they were doing would mean that they could follow their dreams as adults, his wife is very against it. She is a very assertive woman (not a bad thing) but I feel in this issue, she actually doesnt have any decision making authority.

During our meeting, many references were made regards to removal at Easter, how we could all support DS hit the dreaded 'targets' high up before we took him out at Easter, how we could ensure that if, actually we felt school WAS the better place for him after the summer - how we could make sure he was up to speed in September if he went back.

I made sure that they knew it was intention to do this (after the cue from ex that he would have no problem as long as his concerns could be met....) and that we would share resources/info and have more meetings to include them in writing our Ed Phil. So we left on a good and postive note. I since have been chatting with DS about our new adventure and crucially - negotiated a six month unpaid leave break in my contract with a option to return on less hours (which would be totally managable as they are flexible hours). My boss has been SO understanding, and in the current work climate - more than I realistically expected.

However! - His wife called me last night with some news. She wanted to tell me that they had both been made redundant and so this will affect his child maintanence payments. So we are going to be on only my partners income. He is being wonderful about supporting me. But she Also said that DS had been talking about Home-Ed and she is worried that he will be disappointed as they had, in NO way, given 'permission' for this.

I am so confused and frustrated! : I also think HE should have told me this too! He doesnt have a problem with Home-ED! She is very mainstream and authoritarian, thinking that a tight structured regime is best for the children. I think the issue is with her, not him and that is irritating.

We are meeting again next w/e to talk more, but I really really thought that we have okayed the concept and next few months would be learning and talking time.

Has anyone else been in position when they have had to 'persuade' an ex? I was only ever suggesting we took him out for 12 weeks of the summer and see how we go. She now says that my ex definately thought we we discussing next academic year, not after Easter. He was there the whole time we were talking about Easter.

I also know that they are worried about their future. In fact, I almost want to say to them that a formal education doesnt make us infallible in adulthood... My ex and his wife are very 'mainstream'.

Please help!
post #2 of 13
I'm not exactly clear why HIS wife is involved with discussions about HIS AND YOUR child or HIS child support. Ummm she'd be the STEPmom right? That would really frustrate me. I hear you say she's assertive, but from your description she's codependent (owning his involvement w/your son).

Sorry to butt in, and I don't have a whole lot of advice or anything, it just made my head buzz reading that SHE called and SHE was at this meeting discussing the child.

grrrrrr.........:

Maybe I'm reading it wrong? Maybe it's not as annoying as it seems?

ETA: Ok I re-read it and she still seems that overinvolved. I'd suggest meeting with him ALONE. MINUS overinvolved 'authoritative' new wife. I mean seriously now. This isn't her child. I don't care what she thinks, she needs to STOP talking for your x and I'd bet the only way to get that cleared up is to (gently, kindly, patiently) insist on dealing with him directly and only. It sounds too much 'them' against 'you' and it SHOULD be him and you discussing/deciding what is best for your DS. I mean...if your DP insisted on attending mtgs re: your DS and called your XH 'informing' him of decisions etc, that'd be out of line. Yet she's doing this?

Sorry...must go fume....she's making a bad name for stepparents this way. Infuriating.
post #3 of 13
The step mother has absolutlely NO PART in this decison making process~that is for you and your ex ONLY. From now on, I would only confer with your ex, not her! (geez~the step mom must be a piece of work. If I was in the situation, hell would freeze over before I would allow the step mom have any say so in MY kids education.....)
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Both of you have said what I know i need to do now. Thank you.

Before the initial meeting, my ExH suggested that I might like to ask my DP to join us, seeing as we are the main adults in DS's life. I guess what I fnrgot to say to that was - 'Fine, lets discuss as four and decide as TWO.'

I now think he invited me to ask DP, not as support, but so his wife could have her say 'fairly'....

I intend to call him and say that I expect the next meeting to be just us as DS's parents and any concerns that SHE may have over Home-Ed can be easily researched by reading and understanding more about it. Her choice to find out, NOT my responsibility to give her the answers.

They have a daughter - I cannot imagine she would be happy if any future step-mother to her daughter takes it upon herself to decide how SHE will be educated!

Thanks so much for the response - I think I may post this in Step-Parenting forum too.
post #5 of 13
Yeah, I'd suggest xposting in the step forum or single parent forum, either/both are fantastic for this sort of thing too.

Did she just start being this 'involved' or is it recent? Or correlated to them having a child together? Or is he just this easily 'told what to do/say'?

Oh, and I'd suggest not having 'email conversations' with him either, as she sounds like the type to take over on those and just 'sign' his name at the bottom. Just my .02, but face to face conversations sound most productive to minimize her involvement.
post #6 of 13
If I were in your situation, I would call your xh and let him know that the decisions about your ds should be made between you and him.
post #7 of 13
And now your ex will not be making child support payments but still wants control over how his child his raised? What will a judge say about child support? What does your divorce say about decisions for the child? Do you have joint custody? Who gets final say?
post #8 of 13
Step mother has totally overstepped her bounds. Your ex should have called to discuss any support issues with you and same with the educational ones. I'm not sure why the step mother is saying they have been made redundant, your sons father isn't redundant.

I think you have a great plan in meeting him next time just the two of you and reiterating that you two as parents will be making the decision.
post #9 of 13
Yep to what everyone else has said. Ds lives with you as the primary care giver (correct me plz if this is wrong so I can't see any reason why on earth she thinks as the step parent, that is only involved during visitation really, has any say in your & your exh's childs' education. The decision really only needs to involve the two of you, with the step parents giving input but not making the choice.

I'd have totally emailed her back and informed her that the decision was not up to her and that the childs father had, in fact, agreed with hs'ing from the start.

Btw Arduinna.. redundant is used to mean 'laid off' from employment here in Australia so that might be the meaning of the term she meant
post #10 of 13
I dealt with some similar stuff when we decided to continue homeschooling DD, who had already stopped going to school and transferred to a distributed learning school. Fortunately, XH's DP is not involved with DD because they live on the other side of the country, so the resistance was all from him. He's a high school teacher, very mainstream, and would totally not have gone with my first choice, which would have been more of an unschooling thing. So I compromised and said we'd put her in a different DL program that had a great extracurricular/group activity program. So she's still doing the regular courses and curriculum, just not in a school building, and she's still getting "socialized". He still wasn't thrilled, especially b/c when we met (the first time we'd spoken more than a few words to each other since he "lost" the custody battle), I had already figured out this compromise and was just explaining it to him and trying to involve him in decisions about electives (she's in high school).

Maybe a similar compromise might reassure him? And maybe he has changed his mind but is too chicken to tell you? (Though that doesn't sound like the case.)

Definitely, she's overstepping her bounds. I would never dream of making such an imposition if DH had kids from a previous relationship.
post #11 of 13
Have you found out what your rights are?? I'm interested to see how this plays out.
post #12 of 13
I had some fun with my 17yr olds dad, when I decided to homeschool. I don't know where you live or what your custody decree says. But My ex still had to pay child support, and since our state had virtually no laws on homeschooling ( Alaska ) he had no leg to stand on. My custody decree said I was responsible for the education of my son, that I had to inform my ex of changes!

It didn't take him long to see the positive changes in DS, so he didn't persue it. I already had spoken with an attorney just in case. Unless I was neglecting my DS's education, my ex could do nothing about my choice. HE eventually came to fully support my choice.
post #13 of 13
We are having issues with Dom's biodad as well.
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