Should I vaccinate - Page 2

[mountainsun]

Get Dr. Sears book, "he Vaccination Book". I don't think we can all explain it the way he does in detail, then make your decision.

I would suggest a more unbiased book, Vaccinations, by Aviva Jill Romm. Dr. Sears book is written from a pro-vax standpoint.

Also check out insidevaccines.com

I got my LO the DTaP and HIB because thois stse are most serious in the first year of life

Dtap is highly reactive. Diptheria is almost unheard of, tetanus risk is LOW. While pertussis IS worrisome, the vaccine does NOT guarantee that the babe will not get it.

Breastfeeding GREATLY protects against Hib infection.


OP, I still haven't found any compelling reasons to inject toxins into any healthy baby.

[Super Glue Mommy]

Should you vaccinate? Only you can answer that question. It would be best if you asked moe specific questions about vaccines so our answers could help you make our ultimate decision.

My personal experience was that I assumed vaccines were good, and the research I did backed that up. I DIDNT research both sides though. Just looked for why I SHOULD vaccinate. My mistake had a very steep price tag on the health of my son. We do not vaccinate anymore, and to be honest I can't believe how blind I was in the past. That being said, some people may truly think vaccinating in the best thing after researching BOTH points of view... it is not a conclusion I believe I would have come to if I had researched prior to it's effect on my son though.

[Mirzam]

Should you vaccinate?

If you believe they hold some value, then research the vaccines and the diseases and come to your own conclusions. Personally, I think they are nonsense and the whole practice of vaccination is quackery.

[peainthepod]

Originally Posted by mountainsun

I would suggest a more unbiased book, Vaccinations, by Aviva Jill Romm. Dr. Sears book is written from a pro-vax standpoint.

Also check out insidevaccines.com



Dtap is highly reactive. Diptheria is almost unheard of, tetanus risk is LOW. While pertussis IS worrisome, the vaccine does NOT guarantee that the babe will not get it.

Breastfeeding GREATLY protects against Hib infection.


OP, I still haven't found any compelling reasons to inject toxins into any healthy baby.

What she said.

[applejuice]

Originally Posted by mountainsun

Dtap is highly reactive.... While pertussis IS worrisome, the vaccine does NOT guarantee that the babe

Doctors have known and argued about the neurotoxicity of the P portion of the DPT shot since 1940. It was changed to the acellular in 1996, and it is still not a good vaccine.

As for diphtheria, if you ever have a chance to talk to an older person who had diphtheria or their sibling had diphtheria, ask them how the disease was treated. Much of the problem with diphtheria is excess phleghm and mucous in the throat, and often the prescribed treatment was warm milk which exasperated the disease process. I talked to a woman today who said her own mother treated her particular case of diphtheria by wiping the mucous out of her throat manually. . Well, O.K., whatever works.

[Emmeline II]

Here are some questions to answer for yourself in deciding about vax.

1. Name of the disease
2. Description of the disease
3. Length of time from initial infection to end of all symptoms
4. Infectious period
5. Normal symptoms of the disease
6. Known serious consequences of the disease
7. Proportion of persons infected developing serious consequences
8. Transmission route of the disease
9. Prevalence of the disease
10. Treatments of the disease and efficacy of those treatments
11. Relevant research about the disease
12. Name of the vaccine
13. Company that makes the vaccine
14. Contents of the vaccine
14A. The significance of whether or not the vaccine is live
15. History of development of the vaccine
16. Known side-effects of the vaccine and rate of incidence of those side-effects
17. Possible side-effects not yet acknowledged by the vaccine maker
18. Relevant research into the vaccine
19. How effective is the vaccine at preventing the disease?
20.What is the vaccine meant to do? (Many vaccines are not meant to prevent infection or transmission).
21.Number of cases reported each year.
22.Number of deaths reported each year from the vaccine and natural disease.

Here are some sources to help you out:

Inside Vaccines

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html (download the current issue)
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...k-chapters.htm
http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...40451107552&q=
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...87981735&hl=en
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...ses&deaths.pdf

[plunky]

Originally Posted by Marnica

I agree with others posters. This is not thecase. There are many vaxing moms here. I think what the forum description means when they say a purely provax thread will not be allowed is that they won't tolerate somebody coming and saying vaccines are great and all parents that don't are parasites (kind of like something Amanda Peet would post )

The last sentence of the blurb is not agreeing with you. A pro-vax standpoint that was as blunt as

Originally Posted by Lisa85

You shouldn't because there's no need to.

would be a reportable post. Can't have it both ways, that it is perceived as an open minded thing, while the reality is that being an evangelist for one way is OK, but not the other.

[peainthepod]

Originally Posted by plunky

The last sentence of the blurb is not agreeing with you. A pro-vax standpoint that was as blunt as



would be a reportable post. Can't have it both ways, that it is perceived as an open minded thing, while the reality is that being an evangelist for one way is OK, but not the other.

I think that's because basically every other parenting website on the internet is pro-vax, pro-circ, with a "don't question authority" slant. People come here to post about the negative aspect of vaccination because we'd be shouted down anywhere else. At least, that's my impression of the reason behind the rule. :

[plunky]

Originally Posted by peainthepod

I think that's because basically every other parenting website on the internet is pro-vax, pro-circ, with a "don't question authority" slant. People come here to post about the negative aspect of vaccination because we'd be shouted down anywhere else. At least, that's my impression of the reason behind the rule. :

Indeed, and I'm not arguing with that rule, merely pointing it out as a reason that this question will probably not be answerable here.

[peainthepod]

The question isn't really answerable on any web forum, because she needs to do her own research and draw her own conclusions. But at least here she can get answers that she likely won't find on many other websites about vaccines. If she wants pro-vax information, there are plenty of mainstream sites thataway. -->

[Marnica]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Murihiku

One answer is because your government and the medical establishment encourages you to. (However, I don't know what your location is or what your govt and medical establishment encourage you to do.)

That's exactly why I don't!!

[Ophelia]

Originally Posted by Lollicup

Get Dr. Sears book, "he Vaccination Book". I don't think we can all explain it the way he does in detail, then make your decision.

Actually, I would discourage someone from getting their information all from one source. Get information many sources (books, websites, DVD's). Yes, you will find conflicting information. It takes a lot of digging to learn why some of it is conflicting.

As far as websites go, this one is one of the best out there:

http://www.insidevaccines.com

[ChesapeakeBorn]

Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy

Should you vaccinate? Only you can answer that question. It would be best if you asked moe specific questions about vaccines so our answers could help you make our ultimate decision.

My personal experience was that I assumed vaccines were good, and the research I did backed that up. I DIDNT research both sides though. Just looked for why I SHOULD vaccinate. My mistake had a very steep price tag on the health of my son. We do not vaccinate anymore, and to be honest I can't believe how blind I was in the past. That being said, some people may truly think vaccinating in the best thing after researching BOTH points of view... it is not a conclusion I believe I would have come to if I had researched prior to it's effect on my son though.

Lurking here...

Super Glue Mommy, if you feel comfortable doing so, would you mind sharing your experience with us? What was the vaccine's effect on your son? Was it due to mercury or something else? Don't feel pressured to answer if you would rather not. Thank you!

[NamastePlatypus]

SGM, same here
I will NEVER vax my children EVER after E.
There is no reason for it the way we live and where we live.