Butt Dimples (aka mid line issues - spun off from tongue-tie thread) - Page 6

[NamastePlatypus]

Erin i know what you mean but I feel so much better finding it and doing what I can to repair. It might not be that you were defeincent because of bad habits, but your own body not absorbing what you were right in giving! do the beet test and see what that says. I am VERY new to all this but I am obessed to learn now and know like pat and whome do!

[quelindo]

Originally Posted by BeantownBaby9

wait, stop the presses, I am on the verge of tears....I just stumbled on this post and now in my head I am all over the place

Know that you are not alone. I was vegan while when DS was conceived, while I was pregnant and when I was exclusively nursing him. I ate a TON of processed soy and processed grains and really thought I was doing things the right way. My son has a sacral dimple (dimple sounds so cute -- it's a hole) and food intolerances. He spit up constantly as an infant and slept like crap until recently (when I took eggs and dairy out of his diet). He's 3.5 years old.

I worry about what I "did" to him but all I can do now is move forward and try to heal him and me the best way I can.

[WuWei]

BeantownBaby, it will be ok. We are all in this together. There is plenty that you can do to understand and to be healthy. It is confusing and overwhelming. But, many have butt dimples around here and allergies. It isn't something you did or didn't do. It has to do with the years of nutrient stores and genetics. Your grandmother's diet and her toxins and her nutrients and you can shift that trend for your family and your grandchildren.

Pat

[hippychickaquarius]

Originally Posted by NamastePlatypus

How can you tell if a palate is higher than normal?

We were just in NYC visiting tongue-tie guru Dr. Coryllos. She explained a normal palate as being like a Roman arch and a high palate being like a Gothic arch. And she most definitely said that a tongue-tie causes the gothic arch!

[hippychickaquarius]

Originally Posted by whoMe

So dd's got many signs of a tie ('v' teeth, gags on food and drinks, ridge on the roof of her mouth, falls off the breast, clicks while nursing when really tired...) but is 2yo and just getting over a fear of medical professionals...

What would indicate not clipping a tie? And what would be necessary for helping palate issues?

Sounds like a tongue clipping would still be helpful. I had mine clipped at 5 years old, and yes, I still remember how painful it was. My LC and cranio sacral therapist had her tongue clipped in her early 40s, and she said it improved her breathing, swallowing, heartburn, and headaches. So, I would think it's never too late for a tongue clipping. Dr. Coryllos told us a couple weeks ago that it's a myth that people can outgrow a tongue-tie... not unless there is an accident which causes the frenulum to snap on its own.

CST will help, but the muscles can't fully relax without the clipping. My DS had LOTS of CST prior to us having his posterior tongue-tie corrected, and although it always helped, it never fixed. Now that his tongue-tie has been corrected, we are getting more CST. Today was the first session, so it's hard to say if it's working or not.

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by hippychickaquarius

Sounds like a tongue clipping would still be helpful. I had mine clipped at 5 years old, and yes, I still remember how painful it was. My LC and cranio sacral therapist had her tongue clipped in her early 40s, and she said it improved her breathing, swallowing, heartburn, and headaches. So, I would think it's never too late for a tongue clipping. Dr. Coryllos told us a couple weeks ago that it's a myth that people can outgrow a tongue-tie... not unless there is an accident which causes the frenulum to snap on its own.

CST will help, but the muscles can't fully relax without the clipping. My DS had LOTS of CST prior to us having his posterior tongue-tie corrected, and although it always helped, it never fixed. Now that his tongue-tie has been corrected, we are getting more CST. Today was the first session, so it's hard to say if it's working or not.

Is there a scientific-minded reference about the efficacy of CST? Cause it's a really hard sell to dh, he's not convinced it does anything. And I don't have any good reading on the subject.

[sonnambula]

Originally Posted by hippychickaquarius

dr. Coryllos told us a couple weeks ago that it's a myth that people can outgrow a tongue-tie... Not unless there is an accident which causes the frenulum to snap on its own.

Cst will help, but the muscles can't fully relax without the clipping. My ds had lots of cst prior to us having his posterior tongue-tie corrected, and although it always helped, it never fixed. Now that his tongue-tie has been corrected, we are getting more cst. Today was the first session, so it's hard to say if it's working or not.

yes!!!!!

[NamastePlatypus]

Originally Posted by New Mama

Know that you are not alone. I was vegan while when DS was conceived, while I was pregnant and when I was exclusively nursing him. I ate a TON of processed soy and processed grains and really thought I was doing things the right way. My son has a sacral dimple (dimple sounds so cute -- it's a hole) and food intolerances. He spit up constantly as an infant and slept like crap until recently (when I took eggs and dairy out of his diet). He's 3.5 years old.

I worry about what I "did" to him but all I can do now is move forward and try to heal him and me the best way I can.

Oh I know, I feel that way with e and his SPD ( I had an ultrasound every month because I could, now I know a whole lot more! )
When I was pregno was a veggie ( until he I was about 5 monthes or so) I would take prenatals everyonce in awhile when I could handle them. I had someone hear that ( a friend) and they told me " don't come crying to me when he has a hole in his back!" Yeah that was all I could hear when we saw his behind minutes after he was born.

[sonnambula]

Originally Posted by hippychickaquarius

We were just in NYC visiting tongue-tie guru Dr. Coryllos. She explained a normal palate as being like a Roman arch and a high palate being like a Gothic arch. And she most definitely said that a tongue-tie causes the gothic arch!

Don't you just wish she were your grandma? She's one of my favorite human beings ever. You can just tell how much she cares. I went to speak at the inservice where she was introduced to CST. I think the biggest gift for me was watching her discover it. She was so excited!!! She was actually like a little kid. It was adorable.

[hippychickaquarius]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Is there a scientific-minded reference about the efficacy of CST? Cause it's a really hard sell to dh, he's not convinced it does anything. And I don't have any good reading on the subject.

Here are a couple links..
http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/craniosacral.htm
http://www.llli.org/llleaderweb/LV/LVAugSep01p82.html
http://www.shareguide.com/Upledger.html

I hope these help a little bit!

[hippychickaquarius]

Originally Posted by sonnambula

Don't you just wish she were your grandma?

LOL! DH and I said the exact same thing after meeting her! She's wonderful, and she's been really amazing post-frenotomy... lots of phone calls with fabulous encouragement.

[quelindo]

Originally Posted by NamastePlatypus

When I was pregno was a veggie ( until he I was about 5 monthes or so) I would take prenatals everyonce in awhile when I could handle them. I had someone hear that ( a friend) and they told me " don't come crying to me when he has a hole in his back!" Yeah that was all I could hear when we saw his behind minutes after he was born.

I can't believe anyone would say that to a pregnant woman, regardless of what they thought of her diet. That's horrible.

[WuWei]

NamastePlatypus,


Pat

[quelindo]

Originally Posted by NamastePlatypus

Oh I know, I feel that way with e and his SPD

BTW, I looked up SPD because I wasn't sure what it was (I knew it when it was called SID) and I read the symptom checklist. It's totally my 14-year old nephew. He's always been a really different kid and my sister worries about him. I forwarded the links to her thinking she would TOTALLY see it (she's open, I think -- he sees a child psychiatrist and her older son was diagnosed with ADD) and she said, nope, she didn't see it at all. She thinks he's highly sensitive but not SPD.

I guess she knows her son better than I do, but honestly, I telling you -- it's so him. I don't know if she's just too close to him or in denial. And I suppose I could be wrong.

[NamastePlatypus]

Originally Posted by New Mama

I can't believe anyone would say that to a pregnant woman, regardless of what they thought of her diet. That's horrible.

Originally Posted by WuWei

NamastePlatypus,


Pat

Thanks you all, it was way out of line i know. ( but consider the source, she is WAY pro circ and thinks I am whack for being an intactivist)

Originally Posted by New Mama

BTW, I looked up SPD because I wasn't sure what it was (I knew it when it was called SID) and I read the symptom checklist. It's totally my 14-year old nephew. He's always been a really different kid and my sister worries about him. I forwarded the links to her thinking she would TOTALLY see it (she's open, I think -- he sees a child psychiatrist and her older son was diagnosed with ADD) and she said, nope, she didn't see it at all. She thinks he's highly sensitive but not SPD.

I guess she knows her son better than I do, but honestly, I telling you -- it's so him. I don't know if she's just too close to him or in denial. And I suppose I could be wrong.

I would have to go with denial!:
I was a BLESSING when we got a dx and help, all the difference in the world!
When people heard that it was on the spectrum I would get so pissed when they all would go " ohh I am soo sorry" and give us that pitiful look. IT is not a death sentence, it is freeing and awesome. It is a blessing that he teaches us all that he does and can give a differnent face to specturm. That you can seem 'normal' but have problems.

[quelindo]

Originally Posted by NamastePlatypus

I would have to go with denial!:
I was a BLESSING when we got a dx and help, all the difference in the world!
When people heard that it was on the spectrum I would get so pissed when they all would go " ohh I am soo sorry" and give us that pitiful look. IT is not a death sentence, it is freeing and awesome. It is a blessing that he teaches us all that he does and can give a differnent face to specturm. That you can seem 'normal' but have problems.

I'd love to chat with you about your son's symptoms, if you have the time sometime. I love my nephew and in so many ways he's an amazing person -- incredibly smart, sweet, etc. I just wonder if showing him a diagnosis would make him feel better about his uniqueness. As it is he's asking why his older sister always calls him "creepy."

[BeantownBaby9]

girls thank you for the kind words. It is so hard to put that mommy guilt aside. A few more days and I think I will be ok.

I failed the beet test. I happened to make roasted beets last week and had hot pink pee and poo for 3 days. Gosh this is all so overwhelming and interesting at the same time. I and thin, healthy, and I don't even look like I ever had a baby, and who knew, I am really a mess on the inside. Ps, is this why I have chronic dark circles even though I am not tired?

Ok, so onto the food. There are so many paths to choose. I could do the detox, or I could go TF, but it seems like there are some contradictions between the two, specifically beans.......aaaaaaaahhhhh with some decisions, its 1 versus the other, with food I could choose so many different things, how in heck will I know what is right for me? and my DH brought up a point, he cannot eat like me, I am happy to eat plainly and enjoy the food as is, he needs more and there isn't going to be much to change him (he is likely having GB in the fall) How is this going to work? are there recipies where we could make them without a sauce and then he add either sauce or butter or marinade after?

[WuWei]

Beantownbaby, you can read more about adding nutrient dense foods, traditional preparation, including spices and herbs, while detoxing, etc.
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...160Comment1174
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...nt-dense-foods


Pat

[tanyalynn]

Erin, I see TF as the appropriate way to prepare each type of food (or which types of foods to choose/avoid) but among the zillions of foods out there, I can/should choose the foods that work for me/us. I started our transition to TF when we started gfcf, so although many people are very dairy-centric when eating TF/Price-like, that wasn't a good choice for us, but other things have been great. I particularly like the focus on foods that are easily digested, fermented veggies and homemade stock, and I like Price's focus on fat-soluble vitamins and more minerals. But the detox discussion is beyond even that, though I think that is a helpful change to start with. There are so many layers of changes that can and probably should be made with diet. And it's okay if it takes a long time--I'm, yet again, re-thinking what we're eating and what would work better for us, and I think I'll need to make more changes later on.

re: dark circles, my understanding is that it's a nutritional deficiency, but not any one specific nutrient. For some folks, just removing allergens relieves a stress on the body and then the nutrients you're consuming are enough, I know for my daughter, when her poop gets worse, her dark circles become more pronounced (though they got a lot better when we eliminated gluten), so it's a work in progress for us. And for my dark circles, well, progress is slower. The kids are easier, it seems.

[NamastePlatypus]

What is TF? Learning as I go here!
New mama PM me sometime! More than happy to chat!