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post #121 of 173
2/26/09 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by NamastePlatypus View Post
What is TF? Learning as I go here!
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Traditional Foods.

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post #122 of 173
2/26/09 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by JacquelineR View Post
Traditional Foods.
Look at the Traditional Foods sub-forum for ideas. You'll see references to Weston Price, a guy who wrote a book called Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, great book, I think it's available online. Price and TF aren't synonymous but there's a lot of overlap. It's supposed to be about ways that traditional groups of people have had to make nutrients more bio-available. So lots of different foods, and diets that look very different, are involved--so it's the method rather than the particular food that makes something traditional.
post #123 of 173
2/27/09 at 12:19am
Thank you!! SOunds like something I would love!
post #124 of 173
2/28/09 at 12:50am
I have a dimple, and allergies and a narrow palate and had a gap between my front teeth (had braces twice and still have crooked teeth). Hm. And I'm left handed even though nobody else in the family is. My palate has a ridge in it. I have some allergies and intolerances.
DH has a flat tongue and a gap between his teeth, and numerous allergies. No butt dimple though.
DS has a dimple, too, and had reflux as a baby and has some allergies and intolerances now. Hm.
post #125 of 173
3/14/09 at 8:42pm
bumping.

Pat
post #126 of 173
3/25/09 at 3:43am
Just re-found this thread! Taking DS in to an ENT tomorrow to see about a posterior TT...my pendulum says he will be clipped then and there with no fight from me! I will let y'all know.
post #127 of 173
3/25/09 at 11:08am
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3/25/09 at 1:10pm
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post #129 of 173
4/3/09 at 12:44am
I have an issue and wasn't sure where to put it so I'm bumping up this thread. Ellie's sacral cleve is having issues - it splits open. It looks horribly uncomfortable and she screams whenever we have to go anywhere in the car. I think the carseat causes pressure to her sacrum and worsens the pain, because her little butt is REALLY red when I change her diaper right after a car ride. But the main immediate issue is healing up the cleve. I've been putting oil on it but that's been several days now with no improvement. I'm also not sure why it's splitting. We go through phases where its fine for awhile and then starts splitting again.

Is anyone else dealing with this issue? Thoughts on healing it, preventing it, why it might be doing this?
post #130 of 173
6/7/09 at 5:59pm
Bumping.

Pat
post #131 of 173
6/7/09 at 8:32pm
My ds has a deep "V" above his "cleave". Is that considered a dimple? He seems to have lots of allergies or intolerances.
post #132 of 173
8/9/09 at 6:47pm



Pat
post #133 of 173
8/16/09 at 9:43am
Ok. Ds2 has a mild hypospadia, and dd (my 3rd born) has a mild butt dimple. Ds1 has no known mid-line defects, but was just diagnosed (via Asyra) with a mild gluten sensitivity (which a year ago he tested negative for any food issues). I'm aware of the gene defect and we haven't tested any of us for it, but obviously something is going on. We eat/live extremely simple, healthy lives so this is just depressing for me. Ugh, but instead of drowning in self-loathing guilt, where do I go from here so that my kids don't carry this on to their children or develop conditions later on from vitamin imbalances?
You know, I keep beating myself up over all of this 'cause "I know better" (I'm an herbalist, this wasn't supposed to happen! ), but my sis's oldest had an umbilical hernia, colic and multi food allergies as a nursling that she claims he outgrew since he can eat those foods now (although the poor kid has many emotional issues...which is the only reason I had my ds tested in the first place!). People are just walking around with food intolerances aren't they?
post #134 of 173
8/16/09 at 10:21am
Start reading here...
http://www.detoxpuzzle.com/mthfr.php

For us, the lack of family history and the lack of severity of our issues, given what I know is going on, is enough for me to assume MTHFR is not an issue for us.

But if it is likely an issue for you, then it seems like the things you work on are getting a lot more folate from food, and maybe supplementing a bit of B12, so that the presumed backlog of methylation can start catching up. Eventually you may want to supplement folate to get more than 800 mcg/day--that 800 is enough for daily use, but to make progress on the backlog, you would need more.

For us (me and the kids) lack of pre-formed vitamin A is probably at least half the issue, just to mention it. May not be your issue, my health wasn't good, and I'm sure I wasn't converting any of the beta-carotene I consumed, and my diet was pathetic.

And yeah, don't do the guilt thing. Everyone on the thread could, but let's all skip it.
post #135 of 173
8/16/09 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by LaurieG View Post
Is anyone else dealing with this issue? Thoughts on healing it, preventing it, why it might be doing this?
i think vitamin E and vitamin A would both be useful. you might be able to do vitamin E topically if there aren't any soy allergies. i haven't seen vitamin E capsules that didn't have soy in them but i haven't looked either. vitamin A you can get through cod liver oil.
post #136 of 173
9/23/09 at 2:06pm
BUMPING!

Guess what I found on Junah this week, a lip tie! AWESOME!! it just keeps making more and more sense!
post #137 of 173
9/24/10 at 9:25pm
Don't know how I missed this thread! I usually look at any threads that have anything to do with midline defects.

So, I'm stirring up some old posts...

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Originally Posted by springmum View Post
I apologize, my intentions were not to make light of serious health matters. I was just uncomfortable asking such graphic questions about a subject I had no knowledge about and that was my attempt at some misplaced humour...I didn't mean to offend anyone....
I think we humans find it funny whenever anyone talks about anything that is culturally inappropriate. The reason "House, M.D." is so popular is because Dr House says and does things that are very inappropriate.

Talking about butts feels inappropriate in our culture, so it is funny. Having a midline birth defect is not funny, but asking people to look at their butts is.

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Now, onto the meat of the thread...

Tongue-tie runs in my family.

But none of us have allergies. DS and I have no unusual markings on our butts. I don't know about the others in the family. But as far as I know, other than the narrow mouth and arched pallet and compressed sinuses and limited tongue mobility, we don't have any other things. Basically, it is all localized to that small range of the body around the actual mouth.

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I have KP, but it goes away when I get more fat-soluble vitamins. I can get rid of it really fast with vitamin A lotion put directly on it. So I don't think it is particularly genetic or a birth defect, but simply a result of nutritional deficiency in the here and now.

I don't think that I have any condition in my body that makes me need more fat-soluble vitamins than others, but that until recently I ate too low-fat of a diet for my whole life.

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Then you guys changed the subject to roof ridges. I have tongue-tie, but no roof ridge.

Dr Coryllos tested us by having us open our mouths all the way, and then try to touch the roof of our mouths with our tongues without closing our jaws at all. (Most of the people were closing theirs a little without realizing it, so try it in front of a mirror or with a partner to watch for that.)

My tongue goes nowhere near the roof of my mouth. Like, I can fit a whole finger in between. So that, what, a little more than a centimeter.

Dr Coryllos said that the tied tongue causes the pallet to form too high. Something about the tongue supposed to be pressing on the pallet, and then it forms in that spot, but with the tongue too low to meet it, it forms higher instead.
post #138 of 173
10/3/10 at 8:53pm
Lady Lilya, I just did your tongue/roof of the mouth test and could't get anywhere near it! I do have a sacral dimple (as do my kiddos) and we all have multiple food sensitivities, yeast/thrush, and eczema! I have also been diagnosed with low B levels and adrenal issues.

I have never heard of these problems and the mid-line connection until today. Wow, it's making sense... Love MDC!
post #139 of 173
10/4/10 at 9:28pm
Wow, there is some great information in here! My 8-yo daughter has the "butt dimple". It's pretty small and she's been on regular well-child checks since birth and we've never had a doctor question it or order further testing. So she has never had any further genetic testing.

However, she is only the of my children to have it. She is GF/CF and takes Super-Nu-Thera (balanced for B6 and Mg) to help with headaches.

I never made the connection between the food intolerance and headahes (hence need for B6/Mg) and the "butt dimple"
post #140 of 173
10/4/10 at 10:48pm
Oh my!!! I just found this post and am truly astonished! DD has the dimple, which was u/s at around 3 months and showed no further issues. However, we have been seeing a GI for months trying to pinpoint apparent multiple food allergies/intolerance. She is currently 5 mos.

She had terrible weight gain in the beginning due to major bf-ing issues (improper latch/suck) which also left me in extreme agony, and eventually killed my milk supply. I pumped my supply back up and turned to exclusively pumping for her, which I've been doing for the past 4 months. I was on a total elimination diet, and between the allergies and the incredible insanity of pumping around the clock, I've just weaned from the pump and transitioned her to formula. (Any zealous bf-ing advocates, please do not lecture me on what I might have been able to do to avoid this!!! I tried EVERYTHING from bf-ing through a screaming baby and fiery hot nipples, LLL meetings, spending crazy amounts of money on LCs and trying nipple shields, nursing supplementers, etc.!!! I have enough mommy-guilt and need to leave that behind!) This whole experience has been just awful

ANYWAY, one of the hardest things is trying to understand what exactly the problem was that caused poor latch. We looked for tongue tie and were told that was not the problem. To find this post and at least realize that there very well may have been a physiological reason for our difficulties makes me relieved and worried at the same time. So that means this is very likely to happen when LO #2 comes around? Don't think I can handle it!

So, is there something we can do during pregnancy nutritionally and/or supplements that may prevent these midline issues??? Interestingly, I had horrible morning sickness and ate TERRIBLY for the first half of the pregnancy. I could not even stomach whole white bread!!! It was cheerios and plain bagels for a looooong time
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