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post #41 of 173
Kathy, does the hair come out of a deep indention? Just wondering. You might google pyloric stenosis to see if it looks like that.

My first two kids don't have it, but when I had dd, I always noticed when I cleaned her up after a poopy diaper that she had this extra crevice where the poop would get caught (lovely, no?). It's almost impossible to see when she's standing. I have to have her bend over or lie down. Her crack also is assymetrical. It curves up and to one side. It's also deep and dark and the dimple is below where the line stops.

Ds's doesn't have the assymetry problem, but he has the little poop collecting dimple. It is a lot shallower though. And I can see the bottom of both of their dimples; they don't go all the way through or have hair growing out of them.
post #42 of 173
Interesting.... it seems likely the immune issues I had during pregnancy are related to gut issues for me (not absorbing b vits, folic like I should). Now passed onto my kids thru their flora (c/s & abx, history of abx, immune disorder in me) & also thru their development in-utero then too since I don't absorb nutrients properly & also have leaky gut allowing allergens into my milk!?

I was on supplements for those during pregnancy (as well as anticoagulants) due to a clotting/immune disorder. DD1 had tongue-tie (not bad enough to clip?) & very high palate , she has nut allergies. DD2, no allergies (she's young still though), but had a very slight pit (docs just glanced at it & said it's fine, range of normal & no problems occurred).
post #43 of 173
DH has the deep crack and has eczema and reacts to adhesives - he also had the sacral cyst that had to be drained and packed so I'm guessing he had a dimple... (not that he lets me look at his crack!) DD has a DEEP crack (I frequently split it open by wiping even very gently, so now I just rinse her off) and the dimple and has lots of intolerances, mainly latex (tomatoes/avacados/bananas) and proteins (dairy/egg/soy). She is still EBF so this is stuff she reacts to in my diet. She has no tongue tie (in fact, she has the longest baby tongue I have seen - she reminds me of Gene Simmons) but I think she has a high palate.
post #44 of 173
This is a really interesting thread. Ds2 and I both have that "dimple". I don't remember if ds1 has it. We're figuring out food intollerances right now with ds2. Both my boys have near tongue ties. They weren't clipped, and I don't know much about the other tongue tie that's in back. I think that I have a short frenulum under my tongue too.

Also if it's related to Vitamin B deficiency, isn't that also related to Keratosis Pilaris? That's something I've had on my upper arms for years....just wondering if I was Vit. B deficient during both pregnancies, possibly moreso during ds2's pregnancy....huh. Will need to research more.
post #45 of 173
Ok, I was looking at DD's butt while she was crawling around naked today... and she has a very, very slight dimple about halfway up her crack. Is that the dimple? I had it in my mind as being above the crack, but I'm not sure why.
post #46 of 173
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Originally Posted by Lissybug View Post
This is a really interesting thread. Ds2 and I both have that "dimple". I don't remember if ds1 has it. We're figuring out food intollerances right now with ds2. Both my boys have near tongue ties. They weren't clipped, and I don't know much about the other tongue tie that's in back. I think that I have a short frenulum under my tongue too.

Also if it's related to Vitamin B deficiency, isn't that also related to Keratosis Pilaris? That's something I've had on my upper arms for years....just wondering if I was Vit. B deficient during both pregnancies, possibly moreso during ds2's pregnancy....huh. Will need to research more.
i have KP too, is that related to vit b def?
post #47 of 173
Thread Starter 
oh dear, i also have KP, but it got a lot better after going GFCF (though not 100% gone).
post #48 of 173
KP here, too. I've never heard of it being related to vit b. Mine went awy when I eliminated corn for my dd, but came back when I got pg with my ds. It died down when I went wheat/gluten/egg free, but now it seems to be at its normal level again. I'm not reall y sure what to do. I need to see this holistic md in my area and see if he'll do bloodwork. I need to figure out my nutrient levels probably.
post #49 of 173
I've always heard of KP in relation to vitamin A deficiency...

And vitamin A would get used up trying to deal with gut damage.

Of course, B vitamins get used up trying to deal with adrenal stress which could be caused by gut damage so...
post #50 of 173
i've got KP too. this is interesting just how much we all have in common.
post #51 of 173
Thread Starter 
I find it VERY interesting how much many of us have in common. This can't be a coincidence.
post #52 of 173
KP here too, and DS (nearly 1 year!) has it as well, mostly on his lower legs. They are terribly rough. I've heard the Vit. A thing too, but haven't seen a change in mine since starting CLO. Crazy.

CS - I think you've got a dimpled daughter! DS's is off to one side and very deep, but doesn't split open. It's below where his 'crack' ends, but way above where his anus is.
post #53 of 173
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CS - I think you've got a dimpled daughter! DS's is off to one side and very deep, but doesn't split open. It's below where his 'crack' ends, but way above where his anus is.
Crazy! I can't believe I never noticed it before. Of course, I didn't notice the tongue tie either until we started talking about it here.
post #54 of 173
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Originally Posted by meg-momto2 View Post
i've got KP too. this is interesting just how much we all have in common.
What an interesting thread! I have had severe food intolerances (not true allergies) since I was pretty young. DD clearly has some and I was on an ED for much of our nursing relationship (still going, but she is much less reactive now so long as I keep my intake low on things that used to bother her). I don't have the dimple, nor does DD. I have a deep cleave (such a nice word - I'm totally using it now) (and an, um, ample behind). DD has a much smaller bottom and cleave than I do (got that from daddy).

I have KP and have forever.

My dad has a tongue tie, but I didn't get it.

Oh - and DH has/had hypospadias (had surgery as a child to correct).

I'm interested in the KP/food issues now!

ETA - Do CHDs count as a mid-line defect?
post #55 of 173
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post #56 of 173
I'm pretty tired the last few days, so perhaps it wa only Vit A that I'd heard of KP being related to. I'm sorry, my brains just foggy. But I DO find it interesting to see all these similarities.
post #57 of 173
This is really fascinating. My DS has an identified problem with dairy, but I know there is more going on. We are in the process of eliminating gluten and corn. He has several mid-line defects:

cleft lip and palate
thyroglossal duct cyst
tongue tie
some sort of dimple above his butt crack

Now, I've never pointed out the dimple to any of his doctors, but I plan on doing it now. I kind of just thought he had a weird butt crack. I mean, I did consider that it might be related to his cleft and/or a close call to spina bifida (for lack of a better term), but I never really thought too much about it. I googled sacral dimple, and some pictures look like his, but some don't.

Anyway, its a very interesting concept.
post #58 of 173
Just found this thread. Ds with food intolerances has a small dimple at the top of the butt crack, maybe an inch higher. Like a small "blind" pit.

I have septate uterus also. And apparent food intolerances.

No tongue ties, to the best of my observation.


Pat
post #59 of 173
Thread Starter 
I'm still amazed that all of the "regulars" have popped up on this thread with at least one child with midline issues.

Did we ever get a poll in a non-allergy-centric forum?
post #60 of 173
I don't know that mine really do. No tongue tie. no butt dimples (just DD1's hairy buttcrack mole at top, but no indent, and no food intolerances). I looked at everybody's palates and they all seem fine. Are we the exception to every friggin' rule?
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