Allergy Poll for EVERYONE

[Chinese Pistache]

Please answer the poll Read this post and #9 before you do!

It's multiple choice, too.

And mid-line defect can mean any kind of tongue tie, neural tube issue, including a small dimple at the base of the spine (or just above the bum crack), pyloric stenosis or other more serious conditions related to spina bifida and such.

[mtn.mama]

My dd had about 30 food and chemical non-IgE mediated allergies, plus an anterior tongue tie, an upper lip tie and a likely posterior tongue tie. She also had diastasis rectis, not sure if this is related... and reflux.

[txtarheel]

Maybe I answered wrong, but I don't think so. My LO doesn't have any of the things mentioned as mid-line defects, but he does have hydronephrosis of the right kidney, a hiatal hernia and borderline pyloric stenosis - all congenital. My older son doesn't have any issues we know of but food allergies. However, I have an dairy intolerance I didn't know of at the time and consumed huge amounts of dairy while pregnant and nursing and his biggest trigger is dairy.

[Chinese Pistache]

Txtarheel, I don't know about all of the things you mentioned, but pyloric stenosis would be considered a mid-line defect. The dimple at the base of the spine can go all the way through or not.

[Wugmama]

My kid has bat-ears, does that count.

No mid-line issues that I know of.

~Tracy

[txtarheel]

Ah, then I guess I answered the poll wrong. I've been told by several HCPs that the kidney and stomach issues are all linked/interrelated. I'll push a bit harder to investigate some sort of tongue tie that's not so obvious then. I keep questioning and getting put off on that one.

[darien]

Are you looking for food allergies only, or environmental, too?

[changingseasons]

It was really hard for me not to vote for #4. Cause it's funny.

We just have tongue tie here (that we know of), and super serious allergies.

[tanyalynn]

CP, you may want to include a list of the less severe, and maybe less well-known midline issues, since most people googling midline issues get the most serious, life-altering problems and don't get a list of the mild stuff that seems to be early indicators that things are amiss.

Here are a few I can think of--anterior tongue tie, posterior tongue tie (often goes along with high, arched palate--usually has a ridge down the middle of the palate instead of being wide and just gently rounded), tight anal sphincter (infrequently-poopy kids), pyloric stenosis, hypospadias.

And I voted, the only things I can see in the kids are tongue ties/arched palates (kid #1 just posterior I think, definitely arched palate, and kid#2 with anterior and I think posterior tt, definitely arched palate), both with food intolerances (as far as I know, no IgE allergies).

[lil_miss_understood]

I voted 4 (instead of other). I've never been told any of my kids have mid-line issues, but I'm seriously wondering about tongue ties. DS1 could rarely latch and the 2 times he did it HURT (A LOT), and I'm not certain about ds2, although we did see a LC and she didn't mention any so...

[tanyalynn]

Jacqueline, have you looked at the roof of their mouths? I was surprised that both kids have that arched high palate with the ridge, and so do I, and so does my mom... I assume that the gently rounded, wide palate is normal, but I'm trying to figure out who I know is normal.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

Jacqueline, have you looked at the roof of their mouths? I was surprised that both kids have that arched high palate with the ridge, and so do I, and so does my mom... I assume that the gently rounded, wide palate is normal, but I'm trying to figure out who I know is normal.

I just looked in DS2's mouth and his palate has a "bubble" on it. DS1's at school right now, so I can't do weird things to him.

[Wugmama]

My baby saw a cranial sacral prac who told me she had a high ridge but that it came down while she was working w/the baby.

~Tracy

[fruitfulmomma]

I voted You're Weird just because the whole thing is and I don't know.

DD3 is GF but I haven't noticed any of those things but haven't really looked either.

DD4 is only 6 weeks old so I am still trying to figure out what is going on but she is tongue-tied.

[Chinese Pistache]

Originally Posted by darien

Are you looking for food allergies only, or environmental, too?

Um, I don't know.

Tanya, what do you think?

[MoonWillow]

Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache

Please answer the poll Read this post and #9 before you do!

It's multiple choice, too.

And mid-line defect can mean any kind of tongue tie, neural tube issue, including a small dimple at the base of the spine (or just above the bum crack), pyloric stenosis or other more serious conditions related to spina bifida and such.

My very allergic dd has this. I've never heard of a midline defect much less it relating to allergies! I better get reading, wow.

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

CP, you may want to include a list of the less severe, and maybe less well-known midline issues, since most people googling midline issues get the most serious, life-altering problems and don't get a list of the mild stuff that seems to be early indicators that things are amiss.

Here are a few I can think of--anterior tongue tie, posterior tongue tie (often goes along with high, arched palate--usually has a ridge down the middle of the palate instead of being wide and just gently rounded), tight anal sphincter (infrequently-poopy kids), pyloric stenosis, hypospadias.

Ds had this and I suspect some mild intolerances but not serious allergies.

Have I been living under a rock or what?!
...off to google...

[menomena]

Oh the learning & knowledge sharing & connections being made! :

. I love my allergy mamas here.

Okay, so all this talk about palates... I never thought we had palate issues. Definitely not tongue tie issues that I know off, since both girls were/are great nursers and have no speech or mechanical eating issues. Just for comparison's sake, I just looked in both girls' mouths and felt my own. DD2 has a wide, rounded palate, with no ridge/line running from front to back. DD1 and I, however, have narrower palates in comparison to DD2. We *do* have a ridge/line running from front to back. INTERESTING!!!! As far as I can tell, DD2 has very mild to possibly no allergies. DD1 has her own thing that we're not sure where it deviates from my thing (which is its own ball of wax). She's still nursing, so it's... complicated.

Okay - just checked DH: he has a rounded, wide palate like DD2. Hmmm.

You guys... I think we're really on to something here... We need to start publishing papers. We could peer-review each other.

CP - love to you for starting the poll.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache

Um, I don't know.

Tanya, what do you think?

Oh man! Don't ask me!

All my extremely limited experience with environmental allergies is more toxic load related than anything else--but for me and the adults I've talked to about this (see, not kids, and not parents of kids with environmental allergies) the environmental allergies have shown up later in life. But my sample size sucks.

[changingseasons]

You should maybe post a link in a couple other forums so that we get some non-allergy moms responding. Maybe SN, H&H, ....??

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by menomena

Oh the learning & knowledge sharing & connections being made! :

. I love my allergy mamas here.

Okay, so all this talk about palates... I never thought we had palate issues. Definitely not tongue tie issues that I know off, since both girls were/are great nursers and have no speech or mechanical eating issues. Just for comparison's sake, I just looked in both girls' mouths and felt my own. DD2 has a wide, rounded palate, with no ridge/line running from front to back. DD1 and I, however, have narrower palates in comparison to DD2. We *do* have a ridge/line running from front to back. INTERESTING!!!! As far as I can tell, DD2 has very mild to possibly no allergies. DD1 has her own thing that we're not sure where it deviates from my thing (which is its own ball of wax). She's still nursing, so it's... complicated.

Okay - just checked DH: he has a rounded, wide palate like DD2. Hmmm.

You guys... I think we're really on to something here... We need to start publishing papers. We could peer-review each other.

CP - love to you for starting the poll.

Ooh, ooh, I have to ask! Or rather, explain and see if your situation may be similar--my first child strongly seems to take after my husband, and my second child, after me. My husband and I seem prone to very different sets of health problems, and it seems like we've got one kid who takes after each half of the family tree (DH has the high arched palate but no anterior tie, just like kiddo #1). Does this seem like what you're seeing? Cause I think I'm beginning to see some different nutritional needs between the kids that link back into each of our families (magnesium for my daughter, and maybe it's part of my husband's family high BP) and for me and my son it's a weird vitamin K thing.

Oh yeah, and the tongue tie thing--I never considered it because I didn't have pain, the kids nursed normally, gained weight well, everything--but then I look at my son's tongue, short and sorta heart-shaped and an arched palate and I wonder how. It's so odd that tongue ties can be obvious if you look for them, but not cause early, obvious functional problems.