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post #21 of 34
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Many older nurslings nurse through mom's pregnancy, during which there is no milk.

Also, IME, it's hard to say when there is *no* milk vs. *little* milk.

-Angela
I agree ---- but I suppose the poster knows her own body?

Nursing through preg. is one thing, but for 3.5 YEARS? I am simply not sure that falls under breastfeeding (since the 'feeding' part is moot?)
post #22 of 34
a nursing relationship is about a lot more than nourishment.
post #23 of 34
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Originally Posted by nettieferg View Post

Nursing through preg. is one thing, but for 3.5 YEARS? I am simply not sure that falls under breastfeeding (since the 'feeding' part is moot?)
It's also called nursing

-Angela
post #24 of 34
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I am simply not sure that falls under breastfeeding (since the 'feeding' part is moot?)
That's one reason I hardly ever use the term 'breastfeeding', myself. The food is only one part of it.
post #25 of 34
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I am always grateful i am still nursing my 3 1/2 year old when that stomach bug comes around. I know i can still nourish him, and know he's getting the antibodies so that he will get better faster.

Me too! We just got over 9 days of off an on fevers, little appetite, and coughing fits. (Hey, we should bottle breastmilk as coughing medicine. That reminds me: We have had some eye infections and a few squirts of breastmilk clears it up in hours! O and W say, "Mama, just squirt my eye!") I just wanted to say that yes, I am constantly reminded of how lucky I am to have my own milk for my sons and all our families cuts and infections.
post #26 of 34

Thanks so much

Such a beautiful post about remembering.

Oh, to have others feel the same way--there would be little need for lactivism and so many other problems in the world would not exist.

Bravo to you and your family MichelleAnnette!!!:
post #27 of 34
woah so much talk about our 'human pacifier' experience and i didnt know.

nettifreg i welcome your questions (if you are still reading - darn if you aint) coz you had the courage to stand up and ask why. why didnt i stop it once the nutritious aspect died.

see i wasnt just the human cow but i was/am also the 'therapist'. now if my dd gets so much out of one time at nigth and one time during the day from 30 secs to 60 secs - why would i want to replace that with anything.

yeah i agree - it really isnt breastfeeding. but then even as a one month old breast feeding is not just about nutrition. if that was the case then your baby wouldnt root for an hour and a half. did you have those hour and half continuous nursings with the newborn? i remember sometimes my dd would root hard and be surprised when she got milk coz seh really didnt want to drink - just 'slightly suck' should i say.

hey i tried when seh was ilttle. bought every kind of pacifier coz i needed a break but stubborn as she is - breast was best for her and she refused it all.

in hindsight as i look back i discover my dd has high anxiety. it is a personality thing that will live with her forever. she tries but her first reaction is panic. so she needs reassurance. perhaps other kids would have stopped at 3 when my milk dried up completely. not my dd. 'human pacifying' for her was the 'magic pill' that made everything better. why would i want to substitute that with anything else.

seh is developing her own coping mechanism which is why her nursing period is getting shorter and shorter and sometimes not even that. and i feel allright allowing her as much time as seh needs. be it 7 or 8. i am not taking that away from her. since she needs it so much for me i would feel like i was betraying her if i did. and yet she is open to reason. when my nipples hurt she doesnt nurse.

unfortunately there is nothing - for her comparable to nursing. chewing gum. honestly if you ask me i am so glad she would rather nurse than chew on the end of her collar.

i find as a parent there are sooo many 'unconscious' roles we play that we are not even aware of. for instance - i feel nursing is not just about nutrition, as much as reading a book is not just about reading aloud. it is about sitting together, cuddling, mama or dada's voice - creates this warm cocoon of love and emotional nourishment for the children who need it. and so they keep going back to it and asking for it again and again.

childhood can be very stressful for some kids like mine. and they need a little more assurance thru nursing, cuddling, cosleeping (we still cosleep and it). mind you though i am a single mom too so there is an added stress there too.

so in my books breastfeeding is not just about nutrition. it is sooo much more.
post #28 of 34

YES, 'Nursing' Really Covers It Best.

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Originally Posted by meemee View Post
woah so much talk about our 'human pacifier' experience and i didnt know.

nettieferg i welcome your questions (if you are still reading - darn if you aint) coz you had the courage to stand up and ask why. why didnt i stop it once the nutritious aspect died.
Yep -- Still here. And I THANK you for your response . . . I really had been honestly wondering.

It is strange that you chose to answer me tonight, because TONIGHT I actually figured out the answer myself, and was thinking of *you* . . .

DD just learned to crawl yesterday. This evening, she tried to crawl up a step, but ended up hitting her head instead. She was hysterical . . . there was nothing I could do to calm her. I rocked her. I patted her. I stroked her. I 'shhhhushd' her. I EVEN did all these things -- all at ONCE.

Still, she cried and cried. What could I do? I had tried *everything* . . .

Out of sheer desperation, I unclipped my bra. She latched on immediately.

Magically, she quieted to a soft whimper. Her eyes closed. Her rapid hiccuping breathing slowed. The tears stopped. Her reddened face faded back to peachy cream. Her stiff body relaxed into mine. Her tight little fists uncurled, to softly hold 'her' breast . . .

I sat there for a bit, feeling stupid and shocked . . . weren't breasts *just for feeding*?

Maybe feeding is the primary purpose served by the breast, but, clearly, it is NOT the only purpose. It truly was an enlightening moment. (Being tired, those moments are a little sparse )

My daughter's preferred comfort was not to be found in any of mommy's well-intentioned techniques ---- for her, it was only to be found in the wonder-drug, also commonly referred to as "mommy's breast".

So obvious. So simple. So natural.

I LOVE it . . . and totally get what you mean (now ).

I DO want to thank you for taking the time to explain it to a 'newbie'; however, I hope you won't take offense when I say that . . . my daughter really explained it BEST.

-Jeanette

PS. For some of the posters who may have judged me harshly:

Breasts=Feeding is what I was told in the hospital, a few hours after giving birth. I asked if it was okay to let DD hang out LONGER than a '15-20 minute' feeding, but the ped. laughed and said that this made me a 'human-pacifier' and that I did not need to subject myself to that type of behavior . . . babies are 'greedy with your time, if you let them get away with it' . . . At my 1 week ped. visit, my ped. was horrified that DD was up every 2 hours at night to feed, and that I MUST have DH give her a bottle, because this was ridiculous, and I was going to get sick . . . she also let me know that 'some moms just don't produce enough milk, so their babies end up perpetually hungry'.

For the record, having allowed un-knowledgeable peds. to destroy my previous attempts at BF my children, I had prepared THIS time by reading Dr. Sears. Thus, I never EVER cut DD short (unless it was absolutely necessary) . . . I also NEVER gave her those nighttime bottles . . . and I NEVER got sick either . . . DD, now 7 m/o, sleeps 10 hours each night, with only 1 nursing in-between - so much for my 'milk shortage' (no CIW, DD just loves her sleep, and is nice and fat ) . . . and, YES, I changed peds.

But, until now, I still thought that the breasts were 'just for feeding' (that's all people discuss), thus my previous confusion.

I am not even sure that comfort-nursing is as widely accepted as food-nursing. Although, after my experience tonight, I'm kinda feeling like it's just as important . . .
post #29 of 34
hey jeanette,

nothing NOTHING compares to life experience. i could keep on writing this till i was blue in the face and all it could have done is got you thinking. not the moment of enlightenment you had with your dd. so absolutely she explained it best. and i am so GLAD you had that experience.

it makes me soooo sad to read all the info you got from the ped. it makes me so sad to know so many women are out there listening to that and going by the peds words and acting upon them. i mourn all the lost breastfeeding experience and not knowing all those tender moments one could share. kudos to you for being better informed this time.

and i can now see dry nursing or not you will nurse for as long as your little princess wants to eh? :
post #30 of 34
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Originally Posted by nettieferg View Post

But, until now, I still thought that the breasts were 'just for feeding' (that's all people discuss), thus my previous confusion.

I am not even sure that comfort-nursing is as widely accepted as food-nursing. Although, after my experience tonight, I'm kinda feeling like it's just as important . . .


It *IS* just as important for comfort and so much more.

Glad you figured it out. So sorry your sweet baby got bonked.

Aren't boobs magic?

-Angela
post #31 of 34
my 3 1/2 year old definitely still gets nourishment, and always has, through my pregnancy as well. it depends on the situation. he's still getting those fats if he nurses longer (as does a baby who nurses for long time, they are getting the hindmilk along with the comfort), comfort and nutrition arent always separable when it comes to breastfeeding/nursing. i get tired of hearing that......:yawning:

if it werent for the nutrition, i would be less committed to child led weaning. i just feel its cruel to deny something that is physically healthy to a child (as well as comforting) unless you have a good reason. as long as you're nursing, theres probably some milk there.
post #32 of 34
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post


It *IS* just as important for comfort and so much more.

Glad you figured it out. So sorry your sweet baby got bonked.

Aren't boobs magic?

-Angela
VERY magic. I have to say, it is a strange feeling to be impressed (in something of a 3rd person sense) about a part of one's own body!

Thanks for the encouragement! (You are one of my favorite posters, on several boards )
post #33 of 34
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Originally Posted by meemee View Post
hey jeanette,

nothing NOTHING compares to life experience. i could keep on writing this till i was blue in the face and all it could have done is got you thinking. not the moment of enlightenment you had with your dd. so absolutely she explained it best. and i am so GLAD you had that experience.

it makes me soooo sad to read all the info you got from the ped. it makes me so sad to know so many women are out there listening to that and going by the peds words and acting upon them. i mourn all the lost breastfeeding experience and not knowing all those tender moments one could share. kudos to you for being better informed this time.

and i can now see dry nursing or not you will nurse for as long as your little princess wants to eh? :
Thank you, and thank you!

And, you are absolutely right . . . I had planned on 'feeding' her for as long as she desired, but now I ALSO will be 'nursing' her for as long as she desires . . . wonder which one she'll stop needing first?

Because of mamas like YOU, there will be fewer mamas like me (my previous self, anyway ). One changing mama at a time . . .

-Jeanette

~ Raising 3 nursing-normalized people -- married to 1 nursing-normalized DH ~

"Mommy, why is that lady trying to give her baby a bottle? Doesn't she know that babies get their milk from BREASTS?" ~ Josiah, age 3.5
post #34 of 34
I think that the main benefit from bf'ing a 4+ child, apart from nutritional ones, is the emotional assurance he / she gets having been cared by the mother. My DD1 is now about 5 1/2 years and I am tandemning her with DD2 (26 months). DD1 comes to me for nursing mostly in the night and occasionally at day time also especially when she is unwell or upset about something. I am waiting for her to self-wean as I did with my DS who weaned only a few months shy of 6 years. I have not face any serious problem in bf'ing my children past the age of 4 years mentioned in the post starting this thread.
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