Heavy Metal Screening Test shows

[Super Glue Mommy]

my son has high levels of mercury in his system. He hasn't been vaccinated in well over a year - we no longer vaccinate after what I believe to be a reaction to the MMR vaccine. Even after all this time his body has not been able to excrete these metals from his system. Now, I realize he could get it from somewhere else, but where? he doesn't eat fish... we use bottled water... if its from the vaccines, then how can they claim the levels of these metals in the vaccines are low, if after a year and a half they are still high in his body?

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy

my son has high levels of mercury in his system. He hasn't been vaccinated in well over a year - we no longer vaccinate after what I believe to be a reaction to the MMR vaccine. Even after all this time his body has not been able to excrete these metals from his system. Now, I realize he could get it from somewhere else, but where? he doesn't eat fish... we use bottled water... if its from the vaccines, then how can they claim the levels of these metals in the vaccines are low, if after a year and a half they are still high in his body?

Does he have any fillings in his mouth?? Does he eat any food with High Fructose Corn Syrup in it??? If he eats any processed/junk food than he does consume HFCS. But to answer your question, they can claim the levels are low because they know there is no way for parents to prove otherwise. How many vaxes did you get before you stopped? All of them on the schedule?? any flu shots??

[Ophelia]

It's hard to tell just exactly how much mercury is still in vaccines. Many have been reduced to a 'trace amount' but who is minding the shop and checking these 'trace amounts'? Is each batch of vaccines tested by an independent third party? Also, you will see written, many times in the media, that 'mecury was removed from vaccines in 1999 (or 2001)'. This is not true, it was RECOMMENDED by the gov't to remove it, it was not an order, so none of the manufacturers HAD to remove it. Plus they let their exisiting lots get used up, so there were lots that were still getting used up with full doses of mercury in the early 2000's, I have read as late as 2006.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=820170

I suggest consulting with a DAN! doctor.

[kiara7]

when you hear from the vaccine safety promoters that new studies have shown that ethylmercury (in thimerosal) disappears from the blood within several days. The mercury leaves the plasma and enters the brain, where it is de-ethylated and remains for a lifetime. What they fail to mention is that recent studies have shown that only 7% of methylmercury is converted to ionic mercury, whereas 34% of ethylmercury is converted within a short time.This means that more of the most destructive form of mercury is retained in the brain following mercury-containing vaccine exposure than exposure to mercury from fish.They also fail to mention that the vaccine-based mercury that was removed from the blood enters the stool in high concentrations, where it recirculates repetitively, with each cycle the mercury has access to the brain.



I'm sorry. May be there are some detox methods you guys could use?

[peainthepod]

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by kiara7

when you hear from the vaccine safety promoters that new studies have shown that ethylmercury (in thimerosal) disappears from the blood within several days. The mercury leaves the plasma and enters the brain, where it is de-ethylated and remains for a lifetime. What they fail to mention is that recent studies have shown that only 7% of methylmercury is converted to ionic mercury, whereas 34% of ethylmercury is converted within a short time.This means that more of the most destructive form of mercury is retained in the brain following mercury-containing vaccine exposure than exposure to mercury from fish.They also fail to mention that the vaccine-based mercury that was removed from the blood enters the stool in high concentrations, where it recirculates repetitively, with each cycle the mercury has access to the brain.



I'm sorry. May be there are some detox methods you guys could use?

Kiara7...do you have any links to these studies?? I would love to have them to refer to.

[grandmaofthree]

Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy

my son has high levels of mercury in his system. He hasn't been vaccinated in well over a year - we no longer vaccinate after what I believe to be a reaction to the MMR vaccine. Even after all this time his body has not been able to excrete these metals from his system. Now, I realize he could get it from somewhere else, but where? he doesn't eat fish... we use bottled water... if its from the vaccines, then how can they claim the levels of these metals in the vaccines are low, if after a year and a half they are still high in his body?

what are your mercury levels like and what are others in your household like?

[Super Glue Mommy]

Originally Posted by Marnica

Does he have any fillings in his mouth?? Does he eat any food with High Fructose Corn Syrup in it??? If he eats any processed/junk food than he does consume HFCS. But to answer your question, they can claim the levels are low because they know there is no way for parents to prove otherwise. How many vaxes did you get before you stopped? All of them on the schedule?? any flu shots??

no fillings, still has baby teeth.
No high fructose corn syrup. We eat organic as much as possible and he is on a gfcf diet.
My son got vaxxed on schedule until he was 2.. he never got a flu shot ever.

[Super Glue Mommy]

Originally Posted by Ophelia

It's hard to tell just exactly how much mercury is still in vaccines. Many have been reduced to a 'trace amount' but who is minding the shop and checking these 'trace amounts'? Is each batch of vaccines tested by an independent third party? Also, you will see written, many times in the media, that 'mecury was removed from vaccines in 1999 (or 2001)'. This is not true, it was RECOMMENDED by the gov't to remove it, it was not an order, so none of the manufacturers HAD to remove it. Plus they let their exisiting lots get used up, so there were lots that were still getting used up with full doses of mercury in the early 2000's, I have read as late as 2006.

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=820170

I suggest consulting with a DAN! doctor.

I totally agree with everything you just said, and also there are vaccines that claim to be "free" of these ingredients, but they are allowed to claim this as long as the amount of the ingredient is "small enough" (trace amounts)

[kiara7]

Originally Posted by Marnica

Kiara7...do you have any links to these studies?? I would love to have them to refer to.

Sure. The paper is written by Dr. Blaylock (russellblaylockmd.com; go to information> vaccines, neurodevelopment and ASD> the role of mercury in developmental brain damage; everything is fully referenced; some studies I couldn't access myself since they want $$, but if you are able to find them somewhere for free I'd love to know)

[Super Glue Mommy]

Originally Posted by kiara7

when you hear from the vaccine safety promoters that new studies have shown that ethylmercury (in thimerosal) disappears from the blood within several days. The mercury leaves the plasma and enters the brain, where it is de-ethylated and remains for a lifetime. What they fail to mention is that recent studies have shown that only 7% of methylmercury is converted to ionic mercury, whereas 34% of ethylmercury is converted within a short time.This means that more of the most destructive form of mercury is retained in the brain following mercury-containing vaccine exposure than exposure to mercury from fish.They also fail to mention that the vaccine-based mercury that was removed from the blood enters the stool in high concentrations, where it recirculates repetitively, with each cycle the mercury has access to the brain.



I'm sorry. May be there are some detox methods you guys could use?

we are looking into chelation options at this time. I also don't understand how thy compare eating something with injecting something into the blood stream... I kind of had a feeling he we would get these results from the screening... I also feel if we can get these metals out of his system that it will help him tremendously.

[kiara7]

Burbacher TM et al. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environ Health Perspect 2005; 113: 1015-1021.

This is the one I can't find anywhere.

[Super Glue Mommy]

Originally Posted by grandmaofthree

what are your mercury levels like and what are others in your household like?

ds2 wasn't tested because I didnt feel it was neccessary and DH didnt care what his own were.

Me and DD got the same results: low levels of zinc.

[kiara7]

Nevermind, found it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...gdbfrom=pubmed

A higher percentage of the total Hg in the brain was in the form of inorganic Hg for the thimerosal-exposed monkeys (34% vs. 7%). The results indicate that MeHg is not a suitable reference for risk assessment from exposure to thimerosal-derived Hg. Knowledge of the toxicokinetics and developmental toxicity of thimerosal is needed to afford a meaningful assessment of the developmental effects of thimerosal-containing vaccines.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...RVAbstractPlus

Because of the differing pharmacokinetics of ethyl and methyl mercury, exposure guidelines based on oral methyl mercury in adults may not be accurate for risk assessments in children who receive thimerosal-containing vaccines.

[Juvysen]

if it helps... here's a list of meds that contain mercury... http://www.fda.gov/cder/fdama/mercury300.htm is it possible that there's a mercury vapor leak nearby or something...?

[Super Glue Mommy]

I can look into that - but I would think that would effect my daughter and myself as well then, and it didnt. Then again, the real issue I think is just the case that some peoples bodies can naturlly detox from these things easier then other people.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by kiara7

Burbacher TM et al. Comparison of blood and brain mercury levels in infant monkeys exposed to methylmercury or vaccines containing thimerosal. Environ Health Perspect 2005; 113: 1015-1021.

This is the one I can't find anywhere.

Here ya go!

http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2005/7712/abstract.html

ETA.sorry didnt see you found it already

[Ophelia]

Another thought: there is a theory (or maybe it's not just a theory) that it also depends on where you live. I think coal burning is a huge contributor to mercury poisoning. Isn't it also what is causing all the mercury in fish? The mercury gets into the air from the coal-burning plant, then it goes into the clouds, and rains into our waterways and ground. I think that is how it goes.

here's an example of mercury pollution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease

It was caused by the release of methyl mercury in the industrial wastewater from the Chisso Corporation's chemical factory, which continued from 1932 to 1968.

and about the coal: http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/01/m...red-power.html

[newmum35]

They don't use mercury in the vitamin K shot at birth do they? Anyone know how I can find a list of ingredients in that shot? Maybe I should have posted elsewhere , but this thread made me think of that, and maybe someone here knows the answer. Also, is the reason it is/was in the vaccines in the first place, as a preservative right? (not as a immune stimulator, as the aluminum is, is that correct?) - so I'm thinking... what is in the vitamin K shots to preseve THEM?

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy

ds2 wasn't tested because I didnt feel it was neccessary and DH didnt care what his own were.

Me and DD got the same results: low levels of zinc.

How did y'all test?

My kids got their mercury and arsenic from me. My son's not vaccinated but he still has enough to cause odd behaviors (spinning, toe-walking, like that).

My zinc has been darn low, it's a common problem caused by mercury toxicity, probably by other things too, my reading has been pretty mercury focused.