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Keratosis Pilaris

post #1 of 48
Thread Starter 
Okay. Since I see discussion about this starting to pop up around the allergy forum, I thought I'd open the door to a focused discussion about it. I'd start a poll, but I'm not sure of its usefulness. So... anyhoo...

My DD was born with multiple food and chemical allergies. As her allergies have abated, KP has popped up. And she doesn't have it just on the back of her arms, but all over her torso. It waxes and wanes with seemingly no rhyme or reason, though I think its better with a moisturizing regime.

A friend told me that the KP on her and her daughter goes away when they use Earth Science Almond and Aloe (face?) moisturizer. I bought some of course, but haven't tried it on my DD because the crystal says no.

Next...
post #2 of 48
I've got it (I think) on the backs of my arms and my thighs/butt. The primary explanation I'd always heard was that it's a vit A deficiency. Next in my line of supplements is vit A and D, so I'll report back if I notice changes

In high school, I assumed it had something to do with the sun since it seemed more common (among my friends) on upper arms/thighs that were covered by clothing.

Who else?
post #3 of 48
Huh. I'd never heard of it before it was mentioned in the other thread (midline issues?), but after looking at some of the photos, I think DS1 has it- or used to before we went dairy free.
ETA: I think he actually does still have it somewhat though, on his chin.
post #4 of 48
Wow. Strange that I just logged on and noticed this thread. I always had kp on the backs of my upper arms. Four months ago, I went from vegetarian to vegan. My kp is completely gone. I was researching online, and found that kp is more common in vegetarians/vegans. I sure did think that was strange!
post #5 of 48
Well, I think my husband has this on his arms, upper arms, more along the back than the front. I _thought_ I'd read it was related to omega-3 deficiencies. But we haven't really done anything specifically to see if that helps/doesn't. Huh. I suspect his gut is more messed up than either me or the kids. No help from me, will be watching for ideas.
post #6 of 48
I've read it often improves w/ fish oil and vit A, but it hasn't happened here yet. I've got it on the backs of my arms.

My dd is like yours, mtn.mama. She has it all over and it waxes and wanes. However, since we (re)discovered that bananas were bothering her, her skin has gotten so smooth. I'm also suspecting that buckwheat may exacerbate it. So, I'm never sure to call it eczema or kp, but the bunps are like raised hair follicles that are lighter than her skin. Oh, and ds was definitely born with it. He had/has it on his back. It was a lot rougher when I was eating wheat, but even at baseline, they're still noticeable.

ETA: to address the right poster (sorry, mtn.mama!)
post #7 of 48
Thread Starter 
Well, supplementing/increasing vitamin A and beta-carotene have done nothing to change it around here. But we're just entering a realm where we can begin boosting EFAs again, so I'm anxious to see if this helps.
post #8 of 48
i have it on my arms and upper thighs and dd has it on her arms and lower legs. it gets better and worse for both of us, not seemingly related to anything i can figure. i read that it could be related to vit a def (which we all know i dont have), but now i read on the other thread vit b def?
post #9 of 48
I think that was just my tiredness talking in the other thread ellasmama- I mentioned vit b, but I think I was just not remembering correctly. Sorry about that.

I have KP on backs of my arms and upper thighs. I live in AZ and the dryness definitely makes it worse. It nearly went away while we were in the carribean for a few weeks.

My sons had never had anything like KP, then for a while we went through a phase of drinking a whole lot of milk and a rash that seems very similar showed up on one boy. It wasn't on his arms, but it has that same feeling of bumpiness. I think maybe it was a different thing than KP though really...anyway, now that the dairy is gone that's gone away in him. I haven't noticed a difference in myself.
post #10 of 48
My son has KP - no known food allergies or other allergies. His KP affects his thighs, upper arms and face. At times it would get really severe. We usually couldn't figure out what caused it to get better or worse and have never used moisturizer. He only uses CA Baby sensitive formula to wash. We tried Jason products for a while but it worsened. A year ago I started giving him CLO (we are veggie but I was hoping it would help w/another medical issue) and his KP is now unnoticeable.

I also have slight KP on my upper arms for the past ten years - although I never knew what it was until my son was diagnosed by the dermatologist.

Doodlebugsmom, that is interesting about it being more common in veg*ns.
post #11 of 48
I have had KP for as long as I can remember. Thighs, lower legs, backs of arms... I also have bumpy redness on my jawline, not sure if it is also KP? It looks different, more like rosacea. My mom and brother both have it too, KP, and the facial redness. (My brother had it checked out in junior high because it was so embarrassing to him, and a derm. said it wasn't rosacea but some other thing and gave him some script that never helped.)

Anyway, back on subject. I searched all of MDC for KP once my son started showing it on his lower legs. They feel really rough and bumpy. All I read said Vit. A, or genetic condition. I was also told Vit. A by an herbalist and I think PB mentioned A/D - essential fatty acids. Maybe it has to do with absorption or utilization or ratio or, did someone mention a virgin chicken?
post #12 of 48
I just posted these symptoms on the general health portion and out of curiosity looked at this thread. This is exactly what my daughter has. She is AA and I was wondering if anyone knows if this is more prevalent in AA?
post #13 of 48
i've had it since puberty on my thighs and upper arms. i don't really do much except exfoliate and moisturize when needed. it does get worse in cold weather. my mom and sis both have it too. i bet DD will have when she's older.
post #14 of 48
mine really bugs me and i wish i could get rid of it. i pick at it too which of course makes it worse. co seems to be helping it a bit.
post #15 of 48
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Originally Posted by ellasmama2007 View Post
mine really bugs me and i wish i could get rid of it. i pick at it too which of course makes it worse. co seems to be helping it a bit.
Me, too. I had a dermatalogist once offer me a "medicine" that was supposed to help. I told her no thanks. Turns out it was a low-level antibiotic. Nice. As if I need to kill my immune system any more just for vanity's sake.
post #16 of 48
Saw this on new posts...

I've had it since I was little. It was always better in the summer, with all the time we'd spend in the sun.

I had a super-bad flare up when I was PMS-ing a few months ago. I thought I was going to scratch my legs off. I seriously thought all my hair follicles on my legs were infected or something. Couldn't get in to see a dermatologist for months, so did some online searching.

I found a keratosis pilaris community (google it...I don't think I can link to it here???) where people tried all kinds of things. I picked a couple that seemed to help most people.....

Sea Buckthorn Oil
Extra Virgin Coconut Oil

I bought the Weleda Sea Buckthorn Oil body wash (Target and Walgreens carry it, around $14) and a jar of extra virgin coconut oil. I saw almost instant improvement. If I lay off the regimen, it comes back. Or if it gets too dry in the house with this awful winter weather (we've been in the 20s all month), it comes back some. And it is definitely connected to my menstrual cycle.
post #17 of 48
Bumping.

How can we relate this to the detox stuff? The nutrients I keep seeing are vit A, EFAs, vit C and vit D.

Vit A and D go together.
Vit C and EFAs both are linked to glutathione. Glutathione is also linked to phase 1 detox, and parathyroid. Parathyroid links in vitamin D and calcium.

How are we all doing on:
vit A?
vit D?
vit C?
caffeine tolerance (phase 1)?
calcium?
cavities/tartar?

and for fun, if you've been following the detox stuff:
chocolate cravings?
methylation?
depression/focus/thyroid?
post #18 of 48
post #19 of 48
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by whoMe View Post
Bumping.

How can we relate this to the detox stuff? The nutrients I keep seeing are vit A, EFAs, vit C and vit D.

Vit A and D go together.
Vit C and EFAs both are linked to glutathione. Glutathione is also linked to phase 1 detox, and parathyroid. Parathyroid links in vitamin D and calcium.

How are we all doing on:
vit A?
vit D?
vit C?
caffeine tolerance (phase 1)?
calcium?
cavities/tartar?

and for fun, if you've been following the detox stuff:
chocolate cravings?
methylation?
depression/focus/thyroid?
Good points all. Since we boosted EFA's via 2 tsp flax oil in our green juice and Omega-3 on demand... the KP seems to have laid down. We also quit sunflower (oil) at the same time. For us I think its all related.

For reference: we should be doing well on A, D, C and calcium. My caffeine tolerance is normal- I feel the effects of one cup of coffee. Taslyn has five teeth in front with enamel problems... and once the teeth start to crumble its pretty hard to keep decay out. But we're holding steady.

Little Girl DEFINITELY likes dark chocolate, and we're both supplementing iodine.
post #20 of 48
My DD2 has this I think. The pictures that I found though all show a pinkish/reddish tinge. Her's does not itch. And you can feel it easily, but you have to look closely to see it. Even off all her trigger foods, she still has it. All over her trunk, legs, arms. Not really on her face. It just feels bumpy vs. smooth. Does that sound like KP? None of the rest of us have it. I don't know how she is on Vitamins. She drinks plenty of enriched rice milk, and eats plenty of calcium foods, and salmon every 4 days. I think she's okay with omega 3s. She might not get enough Vitamin C (I cannot find a safe one) or Vitamin D (though I don't sunscreen her except in the summertime if we're out on the boat). She likes chocolate (don't we all). She gets coconut oil - baking/cooking (or am I supposed to put it on her skin?)
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