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Originally Posted by heather+mike2005 
And of course none of the clutter is my fault. 
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absolutely my feelings here too

i'm trying to work on not leaving my children with a severe hang up from the way i speak to them about the mess

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Originally Posted by OGirlieMama 
I'm in. I've never been a great housekeeper, but since my twins were born, it's been a disaster around here. And they're 3 years old now. 
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no, give me *hope* ogirliemama

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Originally Posted by Devaskyla 
It's actually much, much better the last few months, since we started getting rid of some stuff.
Wouldn't know it if you hadn't seen it before, though.
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this bothers me too - like if people see the after effort it still looks like their version of messy.
Ok - excuses I've made since I had children (before children I was an 'everything out' kind of girl (in the house

and of course i'm referring to paperwork/books etc. giggle) so i've always had trouble finding places for things to belong in, but also i like to see things or i forget them and get duplicates

but after children excuses include:
1. now little people move stuff around
2. there is more stuff to move as more people
3. we are always living in less than optimal space
4. i b'feed a lot and have other stuff to do (feeble

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5. ummmmmm, i'm sure there's another good one somewhere in my mind..........
i'm also realising that even when thongs are actually ok i still see them as messy because my self talk is 'messy, filthy, gros, work to do' etc....so i try to rechannel that occasionally to allow myself 'reasonable, peaceful' etc.....but the negative talk has been going on so long it's hard to break and i can get caught up in trying to work out exactly how bad is it really through other people's eyes. hope that makes sense.
we could call ourselves 'mamas in clutter crisis' - i feel like it is somehow reflective of inner state, so finding that 'kink' in my thought process/ attitude will unlock something maybe.........not that i'm
obsessed about the state of my home or anything

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