comparing vaccines to seat belts - Page 3

[beanbean]

I'd ask him which vaccines he received, and if he's up to date as per the CDC reqs.

Also, the seatbelt argument can be diffused somewhat this way: Stating that you haven't gotten a disease due to receiving the vax is like stating that you haven't been in a car accident because you wear your seatbelt.

[Super Glue Mommy]

great insight bean!

it's kind of a waste on him, but since its public and others can see the debate I indulge.

[Murihiku]

Well, I think he'd be more likely to argue that the analogy goes like this:

A car accident is like exposure to a VPD.

Wearing a seatbelt during a car accident is like being vaccinated against that VPD: the seatbelt may protect you from injury in the accident, or reduce the severity of your injury in the accident; the vax may do the same in case of exposure.

So it's not "that you haven't been in a car accident because you wear your seatbelt" but "that you haven't been hurt in a car accident because you wear your seatbelt."

(I'm not supporting your uncle, but I do like analogies.)

ETA: Perhaps the best way to attack his analogy is to ask how exactly being in a car accident is like exposure to a VPD. Or you could say a seatbelt is like a strong natural immune system, rather than a vaccination.

[Super Glue Mommy]

I see what you are saying, but this analogy might work better if wearing a seatbelt was linked to causing cancer, and wasn't proven to prevent harm in a car accident after all. so you would be risking getting cancer because there is an "idea" that this contraption would actually save you... but they haven't done proper safety or efficiency studies yet to prove it isnt linked to cancer or that it does actually work.

Do you buy a lot of things of infomercials? LOL thats how I feel about vaccines in a nutshell!

and as stated in another post, there is a difference between "safe driving measures" because you need to drive to get where you are going, and vaccinating. Taking safe driving measures more closely relates to healthy eating and healthy living to ensure a healthy life (not getting medical treatment for fix something that isn't broken).

Would you walk around with a cast on your arm because you were going skiing and it might get broken? or would you learn safer ways to fall to prevent breaks, and if a break occured take proper care for it to heal (getting a cast if necessary)

[bandgeek]

Well for years kids were killed by seatbelts because they didn't fit properly and injured them rather than protecting them in an accident. Then we got smart, did some research, and invested some money and now we have appropriate car seats and boosters. If the vax companies would invest some time, money, and research into making SAFE vaccines, then they could compare....including their history of being unsafe once.

[ema-adama]

Originally Posted by Murihiku

ETA: Perhaps the best way to attack his analogy is to ask how exactly being in a car accident is like exposure to a VPD. Or you could say a seatbelt is like a strong natural immune system, rather than a vaccination.

I didn't keep up to date with this thread

But I think you are on to something with a strong immune system being like a seat belt.... and some people think that vaccinations are part of a strong immune system. Just the other day I read someone writing that vaccinations teach the immune system, which I thought was hilarious.... I have a very uneducated immune system by those standards

I am also sure that there are people who are completely convinced that seat belts kill people and have done exhaustive research/reading into this. They very well might not be caught wearing a seat belt for anything. I am pretty much convinced my brother is alive today because the car he was driving did *not* have airbags (not a head on collision) .... but that is a complete side track. I do wear a seat belt and safety is right up there on my list when choosing a car seat. I just haven't looked into what would be the safest option for me when driving my car. I do believe the autorities when they tell me that selt belts save lives.....

ETA: what happened to the word to replace unvaccinated?