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post #21 of 90
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Originally Posted by jenneology View Post
I asked her if she wanted to read some of the summaries of research that say that and she said she'd be interested: now I have find it. Anyone have a link that summarizies the studies that support that?
Try some of these:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/330/7505/1416?ehom

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/313/7068/1313

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9271961

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ed&uid=7639843

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/313/7068/1309

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/166/3/315

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/166/3/335

HTH!
post #22 of 90
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Originally Posted by mbravebird View Post
Am I the only one who isn't picturing a water birth? It just doesn't seem appealing to me -- don't know why. I'm wondering if I'm missing something. With my last birth I needed to be standing up (in a ski-jumper like position) most of the time, but I did get in the shower, which was nice. I remember thinking that if I had one of those cattle troughs that are 5 feet tall, I might be able to be covered in water!

I get my ultrasound to find out baby's gender, and thus whether I'll do a homebirth, in less than two weeks. Normally I wouldn't find out the gender, but I need to this time for medical reasons, so now I'm actually excited! I get to know -- I'm really wondering. Looking forward to finding out. I know it may take some processing, too, because if it's a boy, he very well may have hemophilia -- and no matter how prepared I am from dealing with it for four years, I think it still takes processing. Of course, I wouldn't know for sure until the birth, because I didn't get amnio.

So I'll keep everyone updated, and keep an eye on what you all are doing to prepare. I won't really start preparing until I find out. And even if it's a boy, I could still be in this club -- we'll see. Looking forward to reading more updates...
Giving birth in the water did not appeal to me for many years but I'm starting to think I might want to. I'm not 100% sure though. I know that I at least want the option there and I definitely want to be able to get in the water during labor. When I envision the birth though, I always imagine myself kneeling on dry land. I guess time will tell.

I hope that your ultrasound goes well!!! Let us know what you find out.
post #23 of 90
I'm not envisioning a water birth! I talked to my husband last night about getting a birthing pool set up but I anticipating it only for labor and relaxation. If I were to guess how the baby would emerge, I'd say I'd be squating, leaning at the end of the bed, or supported by my husband.
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post #25 of 90
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Originally Posted by Carlin View Post
Right now I'm trying to figure out how to get pictures taken of the birth without having another person there.
That's what my midwife is going to do! She knows that my last birth was UC and when she asked me what I wanted her to do I basically told her to not do anything. To that she clapped her hands and said "Yay, I get to take pictures!" She really is that hands off, too!

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Originally Posted by evanleighorion View Post
Carlin, I'm in the same boat in terms of photos. Actually, I'd really like a video of the birth but for some reason that freaks DH out a bit. I feel like I could plan to have the camera available but without a designated person to take photos everyone will be caught up in the moment and no one will take them!

As for the birth pool, it's going in the kitchen. We'll have to move the table but it's really the perfect location. We have sliding doors that look out into the woods so (if it's light out) the view should be lovely.
For some reason I didn't want my DDs birth recorded and I so wish I had. I thought it would be weird to have it taped, but in all honesty I would have never notice it. We filmed my surro son's birth and I love watching it now. I wish I could figure out a way to share it. We had it posted on YouTube but they removed for "inappropriate content" but we can't figure out what was inappropriate about it-I wasn't swearing and amazingly there are no crotch, boob or butt shots in the whole thing. My mom said some OB must have been worried he'd loose patients if they saw it Anyway, I'm all for filming the birth! You only get one chance to do it and it's not like you have to show it to anyone.

I'm pretty sure this LO will be born in the dining room. It's the only logical place to set the birth pool up. I'm planning/hoping to be in the pool again, but who knows what will actually happen! I love being spontaneous, lol!
post #26 of 90
About taping the birth- I am a twin and we were born naturally in a hospital in the 80s and my dad was able to tape the birth. It was our fave video to watch when we were little and I still love it! It's so awesome to see my mom just calmly talking one second and then pushing out babies the next. I was baby B so they put me right on my mom's chest and I just love watching that. I grew up knowing that this was normal birth (the calm, happy, naturalness of it all) and I love that. I wasn't terrified by the prospect of having children like so many of my friends growing up- all they had were horror stories. So while my sons may not totally appreciate it, I'd love to be able to give that to my daughters.

On water birth- I have no idea what I am going to end up wanting during labor/birth, but my midwife gives us a tub for free if we want it and I'd rather have it and not use it, than not have it and be wishing for it! We have the tub placed where it will be easy for me to move from the bed, to the tub, to the bathroom/toilet/shower, back to the bed or whatever I feel like doing. I have a friend who thought she wanted a waterbirth and ended up hating the feel of water on her during labor, so she didn't. Another friend thought she didn't want a waterbirth but ended up really wishing she had a tub during labor. I figure if I have my bases covered with that respect, I'll end up happy!

On dreams- A while ago I had a dream that I gave birth in a pool in my bathroom (which would never fit a birthing tub) and it was completely pain free. The midwife was the only one there, my sister and dh were downstairs and didn't know I was having the baby. I remember feeling surprised in my dream as I pushed that it didn't hurt, and then I lifted my baby girl up and just stared in wonder at her. She was beautiful and had these gorgeous light blue eyes and sandy blond hair. All the dreams dh or I have had were that the baby is a girl. We'll find out in June if they are right!
post #27 of 90
I am really getting excited about this birth, especially now that I can call her by name and not just "baby"! I plan on having a waterbirth (did with my last and loved it), but I also know to trust my body and just do what feels right, ya know! Thankfully, we have a large master bed with a large master bath attached, so I do know I will be laboring in my room!

For those of you interested in photos/videos, for our last birth, my dh set up the video cam on a tri-pod when I got close (pretty much taped transition until after he was out which for me was 45 minutes) and my midwife's assistant was our photographer. She did a really awesome job...got lots of great shots and I was so happy that she offered b/c I really didn't think about it before hand.

So now I just feel like I am twiddling my thumbs, waiting for her to come! We will probably be having 3 baby showers, not to mention all the hand me down clothes so we have no real need to buy anything...even though I really, really want to!
post #28 of 90
hello everyone!
I feel a little less prepared for this birth than I did for the last one. I know, I have a long way to go. I went to the dr. and she said that I am due 7/2 and that feels so soon! I know it is because this one is a surprise and the last one was planned, but still, I shouldn't let it affect me so much... plus, I had my blood pressure checked, and it was really low, so I have to go back to the OB more than just the 2 times that I was originally required to do... I didn't tell ya'll that I asked the midwife to recommend another OB, and she sent me to the most awesome woman ever! I am so relieved that I don't have to UC! this is my boyfriends first child, and I was a little worried that he would not know what to do or expect... I know that I should have faith, but that isn't my strong suit... So now I am not high risk, but I am high risk for a homebirth, but the OB is great, and she said that she would watch my BP and as long as I stay healthy I will be clear for a homebirth. I am so looking forward to a waterbirth!!! I don't know why... the thought was so negative last time, I just knew that I didn't want one, and then in active labor, I would have killed for a bathtub. I hope that everyone is doing well and are better prepared than I.
post #29 of 90
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mbravebird - good luck and let us know what you find out. Even if it is a boy, I'm hoping you'll have the hb you want.

I'm not going to be in the water for this birth. I did get in my bathtub with hb #1, and it slowed my labor significantly. I like the feeling of being grounded on the earth and for hb #2 I was on my hands and knees.
post #30 of 90
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Originally Posted by Carlin View Post
Do you think it's the sort of thing the backup midwife would be willing to do?
I think it depends on the midwife. My midwife seems like she wouldn't mind at all, but who knows how the birth will go. She'll have an apprentice midwife with her but I haven't met her yet. I'm trying to convince myself to just go with the flow but I think I'll be upset later if there are no photos.
post #31 of 90
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Originally Posted by jenneology View Post
A couple of days ago I had a dream that I had the perfect birth (home, unassisted) with a 15 lb baby. It was a good confidence boost--kind of a "I can do it!" moment. I was telling my mom about it and she started getting all concerned about big baby and my ability to birth at home, and her worries that a midwife would freak out and maybe the midwife would drop me or pressure me into transferring care. Then she started talking about the "what ifs" of a big baby: damage, pain, etc. Those are the most fearful things I've heard her about the home birth. I then told her that if the reality was that my baby could be that big, I wouldn't want to be in a hospital anyway because hospitals would have no clue how to support a vaginal birth of a baby that size. I'd choose home anyway. Then she mentioned mortality and I told her about the statistics saying that homebirth mortality rates were statistically similar to hospital mortality rates, and that homebirth actually has better rates for morbidity (disease and other negative outcomes not resulting in death) than hospitals do. I asked her if she wanted to read some of the summaries of research that say that and she said she'd be interested: now I have find it. Anyone have a link that summarizies the studies that support that?
My great-great grandmother had 5 babies at home all 10-15 lbs each...unassisted (b/c that's just how it was for them then). They were all born with no complications that I know of. Now, on a funny side note, the story goes she locked grandpa out of the bedroom after #5...she didn't want any more babies! LOL. Poor grandpa.
post #32 of 90
Hello all!

I am feeling so confidant about this birth I feel like I could just do it myself! My husband has been figuring out how to build a shelter over our outdoor tub "in case it's foggy" awwwww! I don't picture myself birthing in it either, but who knows! Last time what worked best for me was being crunched up and hanging on the squat bar. For whatever reason that's where I was most comfortable and I would have never imagined that so I'm leaving it all wide open this time. I have zero fears, it's very very very nice to be in this place

My biggest concern is a relatively minor one and that is keeping my family and my husband's parents out of my sight and way. I think we just won't tell anyone we are in labor, the only complication would be I live on the same property as my parent's and brother/sil so they'll know one way or the other. My brother&sil are very respectful of a laboring person's wishes, but last time my MOTHER just had to be right outside the door no matter what my midwife said to her. So then my mil felt she had "the right" to be there "to support me" as well. I don't really want them listening to my very private labor noises. I'm funny like that, I OWN that stuff ya know? I don't need to hear from my fil how I sounded aferwards. Bugs the crapola out of me. And I would love to have the option of being in my garden oustide, even at night, in complete privacy, esp if it is a warm and beautiful day/night. The benefit to having family close is I don't have to worry one bit about my (then 3 year old) son. I'd love him to be with us, or he can be with family right near us if he wants. I'm eternally grateful for that.

Other than that I'm all good! Baby is good! Life is good!
post #33 of 90
I can't decide on the water birth idea either. I watched a water birth where the mom didn't make a sound, she reached down and said the baby is coming, next thing you know it was there, she pulled it up onto her chest, wahoo baby born. It seems like a lot of the water births I've seen the laboring mom seems to be in less stress...maybe this is just the limited stuff that I have seen. I just can invision it. Found out that my mw is going to be moving her practice and will now have a birthing center...kind of appeals to me just because everything is there, no need to get a pool, but then like at the hospital you have to travel there, and go home. I just don't know how we would make the pool happen.

On the in-laws, when I asked them if they would be willing to take my fur kids (I thought that would be less stressful for the dogs, and me, they tend to like to be in the middle of all the action)...my FIL said he would want to be at the birth. I really don't know how I feel about that, like Erinz said I would prefer some of that private stuff to stay that way. My mom home birthed me, so I'm thrilled that she is hoping to be there (but she is out of state so that is a whole different thing to try to arrange). At the same time my FIL raises cattle, so he's pretty knowledgeable on this stuff, LOL! They are extremely sweet people, and would be VERY helpful, I just don't know how I feel about it yet.

I also can't decide on video or not...might have something to do with the same lines as not knowing if I want my in-laws present.

blumom2boyz- I agree it's SO neat to call her by her name instead of baby
post #34 of 90
For the video stuff -- a friend of mine was just telling me how she set up a camera and just let it record from the corner of the room. She said she really liked the birdseye viewpoint it provided and wasn't in her face at all and she was so glad she recorded it, even when she wasn't sure she wanted to. She said to me "look at it this way, if you want to watch it you can privately when you are ready if you ever are. If you don't record it, you won't have the option." Makes good sense to me, I'm glad she said it
post #35 of 90
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i guess i am officially part of this tribe now! i have been spending the week trying to do things to make dh more comfortable with hb. we are having another midwife friend of ours come early on in labor now so that dh won't be nervous. she was the midwife at my last birth and has since retired, but she's psyched to come again. with that said, my birth is gonna be like a party compared to everyone else! i have my midwife, plus this other midwife, dh, dd, my great friend who happens to be my midwife's assistant (and a doula and a photographer), and my other close friend who is a doula.
I told my DH things that I would transfer for, and I think that helped.

Fun, a party! After I read Peggy Vincent's Baby Catcher, I was like "Party!" I would love to have a couple friends maybe my mom if she didn't get anxious, my MIL, but too many people weirds DH out. Which amuses me b/c we had a bunch of nurses, the dr., the intern, the ped. etc, etc, at our hospital birth. And I was stark naked.
I hadn't thought of setting the camera and just recording. My MW's assistant will take photos, but I don't think she's very comfortable with a camera. Sigh. I have a friend (no kids) who knows what kind of pictures I'd want, but would be weirded out by nakedness. Sigh. If only my dad who lives 1200 miles away could come, take pics and then leave for a month. I told my folks we wanted a month before anyone came to visit this time. He wouldn't be embarrassed at all, and neither would I. But poor DH. . .
post #36 of 90
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Originally Posted by Maggirayne View Post
Fun, a party! After I read Peggy Vincent's Baby Catcher, I was like "Party!" I would love to have a couple friends maybe my mom if she didn't get anxious, my MIL, but too many people weirds DH out. Which amuses me b/c we had a bunch of nurses, the dr., the intern, the ped. etc, etc, at our hospital birth. And I was stark naked.
I hadn't thought of setting the camera and just recording. My MW's assistant will take photos, but I don't think she's very comfortable with a camera. Sigh. I have a friend (no kids) who knows what kind of pictures I'd want, but would be weirded out by nakedness. Sigh. If only my dad who lives 1200 miles away could come, take pics and then leave for a month. I told my folks we wanted a month before anyone came to visit this time. He wouldn't be embarrassed at all, and neither would I. But poor DH. . .
I wish I was like that. In some ways I think it would be a really neat thing to share with my Mom (who also happens to be a fantastic photographer), MIL, my Sister and at least one of my SIL, but, I know I would be totally inhibited with that many people around. I think it's just going to be me, DH and the midwives.
post #37 of 90
I'm not sure what to do about pictures. I dabble in photography a bit and I would really like to have good pictures...I guess I'm a bit picky about photography as far as quality goes. Dh is pretty good with our camera so that is an option but I might want him for support. I really really don't want any extra people there so asking someone else to be there for pictures does not appeal to me. We do plan to set up a video camera on a tripod pointing over the birth pool. But if I don't birth in the pool then someone will have to remember to reposition it, lol.
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post #39 of 90
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Originally Posted by Erinz View Post
For the video stuff -- a friend of mine was just telling me how she set up a camera and just let it record from the corner of the room. She said she really liked the birdseye viewpoint it provided and wasn't in her face at all and she was so glad she recorded it, even when she wasn't sure she wanted to. She said to me "look at it this way, if you want to watch it you can privately when you are ready if you ever are. If you don't record it, you won't have the option." Makes good sense to me, I'm glad she said it
Yeah, that's my thought on it, too. I am so sad we didn't tape DD's birth. My best friend took pictures, but somehow we lost the roll of film before we got a chance to get them developed (it was back in the old days when digital cameras were still really expensive-like 6 years ago, lol!) I am still so upset that we lost all those pictures and it's something I'll never have to look back on or share with her.
post #40 of 90
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Originally Posted by Erinz View Post
For the video stuff -- a friend of mine was just telling me how she set up a camera and just let it record from the corner of the room. She said she really liked the birdseye viewpoint it provided and wasn't in her face at all and she was so glad she recorded it, even when she wasn't sure she wanted to. She said to me "look at it this way, if you want to watch it you can privately when you are ready if you ever are. If you don't record it, you won't have the option." Makes good sense to me, I'm glad she said it
I've been trying to convince DH for months that this would be a good idea. The recording wouldn't be for anyone but me - I just want the option of watching it at some point. His objection seems to be that it might embarrass the kid later on. I don't see that as even being an issue, and knowing DH I think he would actually end up watching the video as well. He's watched plenty of homebirth videos with me - perhaps he thinks that if we make a video it will somehow end up online?

If one of the midwives is willing to snap pictures perhaps I can just point out the handy video feature on the camera...
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