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post #141 of 282
Yup. DH hands me the thermometer when he gets up for work, too. And we still do it on weekends. Generally.
post #142 of 282
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Originally Posted by BarefootScientist View Post
How's everyone doing this morning? I am NOT starting a new cycle with the rest of you. I am 6 dpo currently.
Me too - weird!

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Originally Posted by Teenytoona View Post
I'm going to get a thermometer today, but not sure how we're going to do the waking/temping WRT our sleeping arrangements as I'm against the wall with the baby and Mr Toona is next to the end table. Probably I will just ask him to hand me the thermo. He's so accomodating like that.

Also, if any of you wake up early on weekdays, do you still wake up at that time at least to temp. I reckon I will have to, but 4:45 is just so early, ya know?
I sleep with two pillows and keep the thermometer between them, along with the cell phone (my alarm clock). I have the phone set to go off at 5:30am every day and I temp at that time regardless of whether I actually get up or just go back to bed after temping (my thermometer saves the temp so I can record it later).
post #143 of 282
I temp at 5 AM every single day regardless of whether or not I am actually waking up at that time. There are some days when I do need to wake up at that time so that is why I do it at 5 AM. My thermometer saves the temp as well so when it is done, I make my cell phone light up and I look at the temp and then fall back asleep.
post #144 of 282
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Originally Posted by CanidFL View Post
OMM - welcome back! Remind me where you went.....I am forgetful
I got an IUD. And then it fell out. And then I told DH he could have until this month to get me pregnant (he wants one more, I don't...we "compromised"). And then it didn't happen. :

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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
How many days of ewcf can one have without Oing? I'm on day 9 now, I think. This is getting annoying.
This last cycle I had 9 days of it with 6 days of super creamy/boderline EWCM. I never have that many! My first cycle with my IUD it was non-stop so I chalked it up to being irritated more than anything else. This alst cycle I assumed it was due to "healing"/getting used to not having it in anymore. Oddly enough this is the first cycle I have ever noticed a bumb on my cervix...what's it called? Bsomethingorother cyst.

I'm cd4 today and I am LOVING not having an IUD right now. When it was in I didn't have a bad period really...just long. 9 days (as opposed to me normal 3-5) and what would be my medium flow the whole time. This cycle? Nada! I'm back to my light flow which is soooo nice and I have a feeling I'll be done tomorrow. Today was more like heavy spotting than anything else. It was awesome. I couldn't use my Diva at all this cycle because it still wasn't enough flow to be comfortable. All I can say is ahhhhhhhh.

I need to pull out my TCOYF but remind me....if your periods is less than 7 days you are safe for the first 10 of your cycle right? I'm not worried as I didn't o until cd 22 this last cycle but just in case. I gotta know when I HAVE to stick to "pull out! pull out!". :

Oh I saw it mentioned earlier how nice it was to chart due to the temp. drop before AF. I love that! This last time it was a HUGE drastic drop so there was no questioning it. I know lots of ladies who will et a drop and think, "oh! implantation dip!" (whether or not they are ttc) but not me. Mine is always a big dip. This last cycle it was a .8 degree drop. No questioning that!
post #145 of 282
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Originally Posted by BarefootScientist View Post
MarineWife, that is annoying that you are going so many days before O'ing. But on the other hand, you might be in the clear now from that not-pulling-out episode.
Finally! I think this should work. I've been having problems with my PC and the internet. I finally had to switch back to Internet Explorer because I couldn't delete or post anything on Firefox. I've been working on my PC all day. I put in a new hard drive and DVD writer. I also put in a new power supply but it didn't work so I have to exchange it. I'll try to reinstall Firefox and see if it works right again. I hope I didn't lose all my bookmarks.

Anyway, yeah, I think I'm pretty much in the clear from the last time we dtd. It's been 5 days now. I think I Oed yesterday. My CF was creamy/sticky and my CP had moved down and become firmer. Today my temp was up. I thought Ovusoft would just move my CL up since my temp today was right on the CL it had given me. Instead it use ROT to discard my highest temp from the previous 6, moved my CL down, and put today's temp above it. Also, all my nipple soreness and pelvic tenderness are gone. Very strange but good to know about.

Welcome, teeny. Sorry I haven't added you yet but the PC wouldn't let me.
post #146 of 282
MarineWife we are cycle buddies! I am not sure if I ovulated yesterday or today though. I started having ovulation pain yesterday and had gushes of cm. OPK was mostly postive that night so I figured I just missed the surge by a bit. Temp was up today, but I have had a headache and might be getting sick. I had creamy cm today and I am having major ovulation pain on the right side, which is confusing me b/c I thought I ovulated yesterday...? OPK was negative today too. Does anyone get bad pain after ovulation or is it only during?
post #147 of 282
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Originally Posted by OtherMother'n'Madre View Post
Bsomethingorother cyst.
Nabothian cyst, I believe.

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I need to pull out my TCOYF but remind me....if your periods is less than 7 days you are safe for the first 10 of your cycle right? I'm not worried as I didn't o until cd 22 this last cycle but just in case. I gotta know when I HAVE to stick to "pull out! pull out!". :
Nope, the only rule I've heard is the first five days, provided you had a thermal shift last cycle. It doesn't matter how long you bleed. But then you are supposed to start watching the CF and are only safe if you are dry.
post #148 of 282
Man it really bites that AF came right before valentine's! DH has been so wonderful and romantic today... I'm so frustrated I can't dtd!! Grrr....
post #149 of 282
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Originally Posted by DucetteMama21842 View Post
Man it really bites that AF came right before valentine's! DH has been so wonderful and romantic today... I'm so frustrated I can't dtd!! Grrr....
Bummer...but, why can't you dtd while on AF?

I've never heard of any rule that has to do with how long AF is...only whether or not you've had a clear thermal shift and how long your lp is. I think the First 5 Days rule only applies if your lp is at least 12 days (or is it 10?).
post #150 of 282
Just because DH and I aren't really comfortable with it. Especially when it's significant flow...:
post #151 of 282
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Originally Posted by MarineWife View Post
I've never heard of any rule that has to do with how long AF is...only whether or not you've had a clear thermal shift and how long your lp is. I think the First 5 Days rule only applies if your lp is at least 12 days (or is it 10?).
I looked it up this morning and you ladies are right. It's the first 5 days providing you had a clear thermal shif 12-16 days before. I swear I read somewhere that if your af was longer than 5 days you should consider it to be fertile cm since it can mask true fertile cm. I could be wrong though.
post #152 of 282
OMM - Yes, that is true. So say you have a clear thermal shift the cycle before, your cycles are typically longer than 25 days or whatever it needs to be, and your period is 7 days long. Days 1-5 are safe due to the first five days rule. Days 6 and 7 would be considered potentially fertile because it could be masking cervical fluid. We are both saying the same thing, so I guess I am confused why you are confused.... ??
post #153 of 282
O pain?? When does it happen?? How long does it last?

I had what I thought to be O pains a couple days before O. I lasted all afternoon. I didn't get a temp shift so I was doubting that it was O pain. So could it have been?
post #154 of 282
I have a question about ovulation pain too. I had it last cycle the day before and the day of ovulation. It was a dull achy full feeling in my lower abdomen. It started again this cycle so I did an OPK and it was positive. The day after (yesterday) the pain got horrible and I spent all day lying on the couch with a heating pad. I literally could not be on my feet. My stomach was very swollen and I couldn't wear any of my pants. It HURT! Is this normal? I had an ultrasound 2 months ago that did not show any cysts or anything. I am totally fine today too.

MarineMommy- that sounds like O pain (from what I have found it can happen before, during, or after) but I thought the only way to tell you ovulate is with a temp shift. Your chart is showing ovulation though.
post #155 of 282
O pain can happen before, during, after, or all of the above. it can also vary cycle to cycle.
post #156 of 282
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Originally Posted by BarefootScientist View Post
OMM - Yes, that is true. So say you have a clear thermal shift the cycle before, your cycles are typically longer than 25 days or whatever it needs to be, and your period is 7 days long. Days 1-5 are safe due to the first five days rule. Days 6 and 7 would be considered potentially fertile because it could be masking cervical fluid. We are both saying the same thing, so I guess I am confused why you are confused.... ??
I'm not. I was just saying yup since I looked it up finally. I figured both you and MarineWife answered me so I might as well come back with what I found. Not sure why.

So, last cycle was 29 days and my lp was only 7 days (normal for me at this point). Does that mean I can't use the first 5 days rule? There was definitely a temp. shift...is there a modified rule for shorter cycles?
post #157 of 282
So my chart says that I'm pregnant! But I'm still pretty sure that I didn't ovulate when it says I did. I guess I'll have to get a test to make sure.
Is it possible for illness to mask ovulation? My temps shot up when I got sick a few days ago and have stayed up even though I haven't been running a fever for the last 3 days. My other signs don't line up though. My cervix has been tilted that past two days so I can't tell if what the opening is...ugh. Let me know what you all think! Thanks!
post #158 of 282
Hi everyone-- I'm jumping on the TTA boat for a while. We were TTC and missed one cycle, but it seems serendipitous now because we need to wait a few months. We're thinking of starting in June '09, to give us both time to get through the semester, give me time to lose some weight and go to the gym consistently, and allow us both a small getaway at the end of May.
post #159 of 282
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Originally Posted by wannaBmom_NICU_RN View Post
So my chart says that I'm pregnant! But I'm still pretty sure that I didn't ovulate when it says I did. I guess I'll have to get a test to make sure.
Is it possible for illness to mask ovulation?
I don't see the ovulation by temps when the software says it is. B/c the third and subsequent temps (days 26 on) are not at the HTL. But your CM & C position seem to indicate ovulation then...

Does ovusoft adjust the temp when you take it at a different time? I see you have a lot of different times on your chart...that can really make things hard to figure out!
post #160 of 282
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Originally Posted by OtherMother'n'Madre View Post
I'm not. I was just saying yup since I looked it up finally. I figured both you and MarineWife answered me so I might as well come back with what I found. Not sure why.
Oh, ok. Good!

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So, last cycle was 29 days and my lp was only 7 days (normal for me at this point). Does that mean I can't use the first 5 days rule? There was definitely a temp. shift...is there a modified rule for shorter cycles?
Well, here's what I understand from TCOYF: You should not rely on the 5 day rule if a) you didn't have a clear thermal shift last cycle, b) any of your last 12 cycles have been 25 days or later (in which case you can have a 3 day rule), or c) you are pre-menopausal or having any symptoms of menopause or hormonal changes. I didn't read anything about the LP length, and actually if you have a short LP that would mean your pre-O time was longer so you are actually more safe the first few days than if you had a long LP.

If in doubt and you really don't want to get pregnant, it is best to abstain during menstruation.

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Originally Posted by wannaBmom_NICU_RN View Post
So my chart says that I'm pregnant! But I'm still pretty sure that I didn't ovulate when it says I did. I guess I'll have to get a test to make sure.
Is it possible for illness to mask ovulation? My temps shot up when I got sick a few days ago and have stayed up even though I haven't been running a fever for the last 3 days. My other signs don't line up though. My cervix has been tilted that past two days so I can't tell if what the opening is...ugh. Let me know what you all think! Thanks!
Hmm. As MovingMama said, I don't think you O'd when it says you did. By the temps, you O'd about 6 days ago...yet, your CM did not show that. Is it possible you haven't O'd at all yet? I don't think you're pregnant...
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