Here are some quotes from the CDC on DTaP (my thoughts in italics)
"Any child who had a life-threatening allergic
reaction after a dose of DTaP should not get
another dose"
why does this need to be pointed out to people? Hello, this is the CDC admitting that the vaccine CAN cause a life threatening allergic reaction! oh, how safe!
"Any child who suffered a brain or nervous system
disease within 7 days after a dose of DTaP should
not get another dose."
and yet, they will only discredit any suggestion that this has happened.
"Talk with your doctor if your child:
- had a seizure or collapsed after a dose of DTaP,
- cried non-stop for 3 hours or more after a dose of
DTaP,
- had a fever over 105F after a dose of DTaP"
I guess they have had some complaints about this?
"DTaP is not licensed for adolescents, adults, or
children 7 years of age and older.
But older people still need protection. A vaccine
called Tdap is similar to DTaP. A single dose of
Tdap is recommended for people 11 through 64
years of age. Another vaccine, called Td, protects
against tetanus and diphtheria, but not pertussis. It is
recommended every 10 years. There are separate
Vaccine Information Statements for these vaccines."
as for herd immunity, this proves we don't have it. I dont know anyone who gets those boosters... so why aren't all us adults catching these diseases?
"Getting diphtheria, tetanus, or pertussis disease is
much riskier than getting DTaP vaccine.
However, a vaccine, like any medicine, is capable of
causing serious problems, such as severe allergic
reactions. The risk of DTaP vaccine causing serious
harm, or death, is extremely small"
HAVING DT or P may be riskier then the vaccine - but they haven't in my eyes proven this. "getting" gives the assumption you get it if you arent vaccinated against it. which simply isn't true. It's only a SMALL chance for serious harm or death. Yet it's a small chance you will even catch D or T. And I have had whooping cough. It sucks, but it's not the end all IMO. My 3 year old had it too, even though he was vaccinated against it.
On mild problems they say:
"These problems occur more often after the 4th and 5th
doses of the DTaP series than after earlier doses"
how is this not a red flag? even if its only mild problems, why are they getting WORSE with the more doses received?
and finally, who writes these pamplets? I'm no English major, but this sentence sounds like something from a grade school paper
"(Whooping Cough) causes coughing spells so bad that.. "
I probably would have worded that, WC causes severe coughing spells that..
and my favorite...
DTaP is a safer version of an older vaccine called
DTP. DTP is no longer used in the United States.
in 10 years from now, will they have a DaTaP? were they previously giving a vaccine they didnt know was safe, and now have a "safer" one, or did they THINK the old one was safe, but it wasn't. Either way doesn't speak very well of them. and its a "safer" version. not a SAFE version? Kind of like how its safer to get it a car accident at 30 miles per hour then at 130 miles per hour?
by the way, the DTaP doesn't reach full effectiveness until the child receives the 3rd dose.
If vaccinated on schedule, a child will receive that dose at 6 months.
Pro-Vax people stress how important it is not to delay the DTaP because the first 6 months are the most dangerous for baby to catch those things.
I don't understand the logic in this? They don't get the FIRST shot until 2 months... what about the first 2 months? and it doesn't reach full efficiency until the "window" its most important to have it for, has ended (6 months)?
this sounds fishy to me. Either, they are trying to protect themselves by means of failure rates ("that child got pertussis before the 3rd shot, so they weren't fully protected. thats why they got it. it doesn't count against efficiency" and then of course if they have all 3 shots they are already 6 months so they are less likely to get it anyway - which makes the effective rate go up. Or, if we were to assume the vaccine even works (which is another issue in itself), then it would make more sense to reason that whooping cough is most common in the first 6 months because the child hasnt gotten all 3 doses yet, instead of presenting that you need those doses in the first 6 months because that is when it is most common. By this I mean, if a parent wants to delay DTaP, instead of being told they are missing the window in which having it is most important (which anyone can plainly see doesnt even make sense) they should just be informed that all 3 doses are needed to gain protection, and need to be given within a certain time frame of eachother.
I don't understand the amoung of parents who wont even consider breastfeeding, which is their ONLY defense even if they go get vaccines for the first 6 months (assuming again that these vaccines work, which hasnt been proven). Yet they get the vaccine, have a false feeling of safety as they give their child a bottle of formula, not realizing that vaccine isn't even effective yet, and what that child needs is breastmilk not an injection. And guess what. Breastmilk is free, and its safe, and its not one size fits all - its tailored specifically for the child receiving it.
Sorry not trying to make this about breastfeeding, but when it comes to the DTaP vaccine I think mention of BFing is important.
Also, at which ages is SIDS most common?
most occur between 2 and 4 months of age. when the first and second doses of DTaP is given. I dont think SIDS is caused by DTaP. I do think that there are some vaccine related deaths being catagorized as SIDS though. (my last neighbor lost a child to SIDS after vaccination. I won't get into the graphic details I wish they hadn't told me, but the problem was DEFINITLY not SIDS.) they are told sids though, and many parents are, and many parents DONT report to VAERS and many parents DONT know any better then what their dr.s are telling them.
"Any child who had a life-threatening allergic
reaction after a dose of DTaP should not get
another dose"
why does this need to be pointed out to people? Hello, this is the CDC admitting that the vaccine CAN cause a life threatening allergic reaction! oh, how safe!
"Any child who suffered a brain or nervous system
disease within 7 days after a dose of DTaP should
not get another dose."
and yet, they will only discredit any suggestion that this has happened.
"Talk with your doctor if your child:
- had a seizure or collapsed after a dose of DTaP,
- cried non-stop for 3 hours or more after a dose of
DTaP,
- had a fever over 105F after a dose of DTaP"
I guess they have had some complaints about this?
"DTaP is not licensed for adolescents, adults, or
children 7 years of age and older.
But older people still need protection. A vaccine
called Tdap is similar to DTaP. A single dose of
Tdap is recommended for people 11 through 64
years of age. Another vaccine, called Td, protects
against tetanus and diphtheria, but not pertussis. It is
recommended every 10 years. There are separate
Vaccine Information Statements for these vaccines."
as for herd immunity, this proves we don't have it. I dont know anyone who gets those boosters... so why aren't all us adults catching these diseases?
"Getting diphtheria, tetanus, or pertussis disease is
much riskier than getting DTaP vaccine.
However, a vaccine, like any medicine, is capable of
causing serious problems, such as severe allergic
reactions. The risk of DTaP vaccine causing serious
harm, or death, is extremely small"
HAVING DT or P may be riskier then the vaccine - but they haven't in my eyes proven this. "getting" gives the assumption you get it if you arent vaccinated against it. which simply isn't true. It's only a SMALL chance for serious harm or death. Yet it's a small chance you will even catch D or T. And I have had whooping cough. It sucks, but it's not the end all IMO. My 3 year old had it too, even though he was vaccinated against it.
On mild problems they say:
"These problems occur more often after the 4th and 5th
doses of the DTaP series than after earlier doses"
how is this not a red flag? even if its only mild problems, why are they getting WORSE with the more doses received?
and finally, who writes these pamplets? I'm no English major, but this sentence sounds like something from a grade school paper
"(Whooping Cough) causes coughing spells so bad that.. "
I probably would have worded that, WC causes severe coughing spells that..
and my favorite...
DTaP is a safer version of an older vaccine called
DTP. DTP is no longer used in the United States.
in 10 years from now, will they have a DaTaP? were they previously giving a vaccine they didnt know was safe, and now have a "safer" one, or did they THINK the old one was safe, but it wasn't. Either way doesn't speak very well of them. and its a "safer" version. not a SAFE version? Kind of like how its safer to get it a car accident at 30 miles per hour then at 130 miles per hour?
by the way, the DTaP doesn't reach full effectiveness until the child receives the 3rd dose.
If vaccinated on schedule, a child will receive that dose at 6 months.
Pro-Vax people stress how important it is not to delay the DTaP because the first 6 months are the most dangerous for baby to catch those things.
I don't understand the logic in this? They don't get the FIRST shot until 2 months... what about the first 2 months? and it doesn't reach full efficiency until the "window" its most important to have it for, has ended (6 months)?
this sounds fishy to me. Either, they are trying to protect themselves by means of failure rates ("that child got pertussis before the 3rd shot, so they weren't fully protected. thats why they got it. it doesn't count against efficiency" and then of course if they have all 3 shots they are already 6 months so they are less likely to get it anyway - which makes the effective rate go up. Or, if we were to assume the vaccine even works (which is another issue in itself), then it would make more sense to reason that whooping cough is most common in the first 6 months because the child hasnt gotten all 3 doses yet, instead of presenting that you need those doses in the first 6 months because that is when it is most common. By this I mean, if a parent wants to delay DTaP, instead of being told they are missing the window in which having it is most important (which anyone can plainly see doesnt even make sense) they should just be informed that all 3 doses are needed to gain protection, and need to be given within a certain time frame of eachother.
I don't understand the amoung of parents who wont even consider breastfeeding, which is their ONLY defense even if they go get vaccines for the first 6 months (assuming again that these vaccines work, which hasnt been proven). Yet they get the vaccine, have a false feeling of safety as they give their child a bottle of formula, not realizing that vaccine isn't even effective yet, and what that child needs is breastmilk not an injection. And guess what. Breastmilk is free, and its safe, and its not one size fits all - its tailored specifically for the child receiving it.
Sorry not trying to make this about breastfeeding, but when it comes to the DTaP vaccine I think mention of BFing is important.
Also, at which ages is SIDS most common?
most occur between 2 and 4 months of age. when the first and second doses of DTaP is given. I dont think SIDS is caused by DTaP. I do think that there are some vaccine related deaths being catagorized as SIDS though. (my last neighbor lost a child to SIDS after vaccination. I won't get into the graphic details I wish they hadn't told me, but the problem was DEFINITLY not SIDS.) they are told sids though, and many parents are, and many parents DONT report to VAERS and many parents DONT know any better then what their dr.s are telling them.
: Actually, I was thinking this morning I really should file a VAERS report.
