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Poll Results: Where did you stand then, where do you stand now?

 
  • 11% (13)
    I was always against vaccinations
  • 7% (8)
    I was always for vaccinations
  • 7% (8)
    I was against vaccinations, now I am for them
  • 38% (42)
    I was for vaccinations, now I am against them
  • 4% (5)
    I didn't start off one way or the other, or I just started off, and I am for vaccinations
  • 30% (34)
    I didn't start off one way or the other, or I just started off, and I am against vaccinations
110 Total Votes  
post #61 of 65
Thread Starter 
I guess I believe other mothers when they share their experience because I know what really happened to me.

as far as scientific credibility, man I hope the numbers the CDC are right because thats what I base my decision on (except I don't skew them the same way). at the same time, I am aware the CDC doesn't even have all the numbers and hasnt done any truly credible studies. They themselves admitted this to congress. its hard - who do you trust when the person who is supposed to be "credible" says "well, we admit we are misleading". yikes. definitely a tough boat.
post #62 of 65
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post

But I can't say that I'm either "for" or "against" vaccinations. I'm for informed consent. I'm against compulsory vaccines.
This. I am also not "for" or "against" because I selectively vaccinate, and I delay vaccinations. So I'm for some vaxes but against some. And it took a long time for me to figure it out... I delayed vaxing with DD1 for about a year and DD2 for two years. I've also recently changed my mind about certain vaccines. I think the learning is an ongoing process as new information comes available.
post #63 of 65
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Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
But I can't say that I'm either "for" or "against" vaccinations. I'm for informed consent. I'm against compulsory vaccines.
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I don't even know where I stand at this point. I'm not sure where I ever stood. When ds1 was born, the number of "mandatory" (they weren't, but that was never, ever mentioned) vaxes was much, much smaller than it is now. I had some doubts, but figured that the first group (diptheria, pertussis, tetanus & polio) were a good idea (I had an elementary school teacher whose arm was paralyzed from polio, which probably influenced my decision). I'd also had all those myself, as well as smallpox.

When he got a bit older, the MMR was "mandatory". I was really iffy about it...thought immunization for rubella seemed like a good idea, but couldn't see any point in doing mumps or measles...I had no idea it was even possible to get them separate from each other, and I'd have probably had to pay out of pocket, which I couldn't have done. So...I got the MMR for ds1, but wasn't really happy about it.

So...kind of up in the air about things at that point, but not really researching. The number of vaxes on the schedule was nowhere near what it is now, and it didn't seem like a big concern.

Then, after a long time of thinking I was never going to be able to carry a baby to term again (and therefore not thinking about these things much), I had dd. When we went for her well baby visits, there was a new vax on the schedule - can't even remember which one. I got it, but I was getting more and more uneasy.

I had ds2. They'd added another vax. Now, at...6 months, I think...my baby was "required" to get four needles. I turned one of them down - honestly don't even remember if it was meningitis or Hep B, and can't recall my reasoning. It was a total spur of the moment decision, because they wanted to give him so many needles. I never did take him back for the MMR at a year or 18 months or whatever. I'm still trying to decide if we'll get it for him or not. If mumps were still easy to find in the general population, I wouldn't even consider it, but I do have concerns about him being exposed after puberty.

And...now I'm pregnant again. I still don't know what I'm going to do. Now, they've added the freaking chickenpox vaccine. I'm disgusted by this one. I remember seeing the posters about it in my GP's office before it was added to our provincial schedule (and therefore covered by our provincial medical plan), and the marketing slant horrified me.

I never had a problem with vaccines when they were being used for really horrible diseases like smallpox, or polio. When we've decided to inject kids with all kinds of crap to prevent chickenpox, I think we've lost the path, yk?

So, I'm not pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine. I'm anti-"casual administration of vaccines for relatively mild childhood illnesses". And...that's about as far as I can clarify my stance, even in my own head....

Basically, I wouldn't say my views have been changed one way or the other. It's more as if they've been...refined? I've also been affected less by the research I've done (some, not much - I don't keep track of things very well these days) than by the steady addition of new vaxes to the "mandatory" schedule.
post #64 of 65
As to the "what if my child died?" question...

I honestly can't answer that. I can tell you that my last child died during a HBA3C attempt, and I still wholeheartedly support VBAC, even VBAmC. There are several reasons that I'm not trying again, but, to be honest, a belief that cutting me open and performing a babyectomy is the best thing for me and baby...is not one of those reasons. I don't believe that.

Nothing to do with vaxes, obviously...but relevant in terms of how a child dying has affected my views...
post #65 of 65
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Originally Posted by ccohenou View Post
When my first child was born, I was ready to be convinced not to vaccinate. But I found the evidence in favor of vaccinating to be more credible than the evidence against it.
I found the anti-vax information that I read to be lacking in scientific credibility (even things as simple as the "decline of VPDs" graph that had no sourcing information) and full of hysteria and conspiracy theories.
This is interesting. I have never heard this perspective before. What made you want to be convinced not to vaccinate? If you already believe something, you don't need to be convinced about it.

Did you have fears regarding vaccines? If so, what were those fears and what convinced you not to fear them anymore?
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